baiting
12-05-2008, 01:10 PM
#61
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location:
Posts: 21,043
RE: baiting
Are you a farmer in the acorn business?
12-05-2008, 01:12 PM
#62
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hughesville, PA
Posts: 2,590
RE: baiting
Germ, I have a blast. I just get bothered by others determining how society views the sport I love so much. If burnie doesn't mind getting lumped in with the most visible members of the club, that's cool with me.
Guys I am heading to climb my tree on my 30 acre pile soybeans, hunt safe, see ya later.
Guys I am heading to climb my tree on my 30 acre pile soybeans, hunt safe, see ya later.
12-05-2008, 01:18 PM
#63
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
Posts: 26,274
RE: baiting
I am simply pointing out how the elitest attitude is going to ruin the sport. I, as well as Kanga, ChrisW, and others who are bowyers, could cry foul to the highest because it is too easy to kill a deer with a compound. Heck, that is why I went back to trad bows back in the 90s and even started makeing them. I love hunting, but as Germ mentioned, its for enjoyment.So if it bendsyouso much out of shape that you cannot enjoy it because someone else might be doing it easier, thenyoureally needs to analyze why you are hunting in the first place.
Oh yea, and if you are worried about society, let me clue you in on something. If they are agianst hunting, it dont matter. If they dont care, and are not hunters, they dont care.
Not sure how old you are, but back in the 70s and 80s there was a push to keep bows from the field period. To much room for mistakes. Heck, there was even a push to ban compounds. Society is the least of our worries. Our fellow hunters are our biggest problems.
Oh yea, and if you are worried about society, let me clue you in on something. If they are agianst hunting, it dont matter. If they dont care, and are not hunters, they dont care.
Not sure how old you are, but back in the 70s and 80s there was a push to keep bows from the field period. To much room for mistakes. Heck, there was even a push to ban compounds. Society is the least of our worries. Our fellow hunters are our biggest problems.
12-05-2008, 01:21 PM
#64
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Michigan/Ohio
Posts: 11,682
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
Germ, I have a blast. I just get bothered by others determining how society views the sport I love so much. If burnie doesn't mind getting lumped in with the most visible members of the club, that's cool with me.
Germ, I have a blast. I just get bothered by others determining how society views the sport I love so much. If burnie doesn't mind getting lumped in with the most visible members of the club, that's cool with me.
Way I look at it is this:
At the end of the day when a hunter kills a deer, he may have killed by
baiting
foodplot
funnel
scrape
called in
ambushed
etc
whatever method the hunter use, the deer is still dead
The challenge does not make a deer deader. if the hunters is happy with his deer, then who cares.In all honsty the non-hunting public really does not care what we do, they really don't.
12-05-2008, 01:22 PM
#65
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
Posts: 26,274
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: Germ
We do a great job ourselves of throwing each other unders the bus
Way I look at it is this:
At the end of the day when a hunter kills a deer, he may have killed by
baiting
foodplot
funnel
scrape
called in
ambushed
etc
whatever method the hunter use, the deer is still dead The challenge does not make a deer deader. if the hunters is happy and with his deer, then who cares.
In all honsty the non-hunting public really does not care what we do, they really don't.
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
Germ, I have a blast. I just get bothered by others determining how society views the sport I love so much. If burnie doesn't mind getting lumped in with the most visible members of the club, that's cool with me.
Germ, I have a blast. I just get bothered by others determining how society views the sport I love so much. If burnie doesn't mind getting lumped in with the most visible members of the club, that's cool with me.
Way I look at it is this:
At the end of the day when a hunter kills a deer, he may have killed by
baiting
foodplot
funnel
scrape
called in
ambushed
etc
whatever method the hunter use, the deer is still dead
The challenge does not make a deer deader. if the hunters is happy and with his deer, then who cares.In all honsty the non-hunting public really does not care what we do, they really don't.
12-05-2008, 01:25 PM
#66
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Almost Heaven. Boone Co. WV
Posts: 1,003
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: Germ
We do a great job ourselves of throwing each other unders the bus
Way I look at it is this:
At the end of the day when a hunter kills a deer, he may have killed by
baiting
foodplot
funnel
scrape
called in
ambushed
etc
whatever method the hunter use, the deer is still dead The challenge does not make a deer deader. if the hunters is happy and with his deer, then who cares.
In all honsty the non-hunting public really does not care what we do, they really don't.
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
Germ, I have a blast. I just get bothered by others determining how society views the sport I love so much. If burnie doesn't mind getting lumped in with the most visible members of the club, that's cool with me.
Germ, I have a blast. I just get bothered by others determining how society views the sport I love so much. If burnie doesn't mind getting lumped in with the most visible members of the club, that's cool with me.
Way I look at it is this:
At the end of the day when a hunter kills a deer, he may have killed by
baiting
foodplot
funnel
scrape
called in
ambushed
etc
whatever method the hunter use, the deer is still dead
The challenge does not make a deer deader. if the hunters is happy and with his deer, then who cares.In all honsty the non-hunting public really does not care what we do, they really don't.
12-05-2008, 01:29 PM
#67
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Live = Northern IL, Hunt = West Central IL
Posts: 297
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I fail to see the relevance in this question. Acorns are indigenous to even the grounds I placed them on. Using your logic.....the man placing the bait pile is golden.....because he's using a crop that was farm grown to make up his baited area.
Are you a farmer in the acorn business?
INTENT
12-05-2008, 01:39 PM
#68
Site Buck Guru
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Racine, Wisconsin
Posts: 5,922
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
What about micro food plots that are so popular? Ive seen a guy berate baiting, yet sets on miniture clover plots that allow him a shot at any point of entrance.
What about Decoys? Not much sport there. What about doe in heat urine? Not much sport there. Shoot, why a compound bow? if you want a challange, get you a self bow. Or better yet, make you a bow and go kill your deer with it. I do it, its much more difficult. So I guess I am allowed to berate everyone on this board.
Here is a bamboo backed Osage bow I built this year and shot most of my deer with this season.
And a few hogs
Or how about a yew recurve I built several years ago.
Both hogs and the doe were shot during a still hunt. So i guess i can be an elitest. All of you who buy your bows, hunt from a tree, or use scents or Decoy are unethical and I simply loath you.
Oh the Irony just makes me laugh.
Some of you guys really need to enjoy what you do and not get bent out of shape at what other do. But then agian, hunters wont quit hateing each other until we kill the whole sport.
Everyone knows that a true elitist doesn't use aluminum arrows with (gasp!) METAL broad heads!! They don't live in houses constructed with man made materials either! They use wood arrows, stone broad heads and live in huts constructed out of animal skins which were sewn together with sinew and porcupine quill, or maybe stones and mud. You're busted! [8D]
Besides that, you've been out of the loop on the Bow hunting forum for too long........Just this week (earlier) we all got through this elitism crisis by deciding that to be a good hunter you must be proficient with your weapon of choice. This includes, guns (all kinds), bows (all kinds), spears, knives, catapults and bare hands. Therefore, it is a given that ALL of us are proficient with any weapon that we choose to use because we are all good hunters. We also decided that it's really all about the hunt, not the weapon.
Come join us!
12-05-2008, 01:49 PM
#70
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Almost Heaven. Boone Co. WV
Posts: 1,003
RE: baiting
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Again....is the guy hunting the artificial ag crop's INTENT not to lure the deer into bow range via the crop he's sitting over?
What's his intention....if not that?
INTENT
What's his intention....if not that?
