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so what's the deal??
why does ILL and IA not have a rifle season?? I don't hunt with a rifle, and never have, I just see that most states allow it, but they don't, and yet, this is where soooo many P&Y/B&C come from...correlation???
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RE: so what's the deal??
I'm sure they have a shotgun season though right? Heck, some shotguns will flat out lay one down at 200 yards, so who needs a rifle?:D
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RE: so what's the deal??
IL has always been because of the population and the range of rifles - and I'll agree that there's a correlation between the two. I'm wondering how much longer they will stay up there now that ML's are allowed. I would think the numbers would go even higher for a couple years before they start to come back down.
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RE: so what's the deal??
I believe Illinois allows a total of 10 some odd days of firearm use. Compare that to the 50+ here in MS and its no wonder whyI love Illinois so much! It's a bowhunters paradise, plain and simple.
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RE: so what's the deal??
Illinois is a big, mostly flat state with nearly 13 million people. Shotguns and muzzleloaders are consider 'safer' than rifles by most folks around here. (stray shot wise)
Illinois 'gun' days: There's the 7 day regular gun seasons(1st and second) in which shotguns, muzzleloaders and handguns are legal. The muzzleloader only season (3 days). A special CWD season (3 days) in certain counties. The 3 day late winter 'antlerless' season (shotgun, muzzleloader and handgun) in which bucks that have already shed get shot. There is also the youth gun season (two days) in early October. There is talk now of adding more gun days in '09. |
RE: so what's the deal??
I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would
a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags |
RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: Rory/MO I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags a) kansas does this(and look at thier bucks) b) illinois and iowa do this ( and look at their bucks) c) well im not sure what state does this lol i would also like to add, no one should be able to come to missouri and just buy over the counter tags, this is one of the biggest reasons why missouri isnt a consistent big buck producer |
RE: so what's the deal??
1. The use of a slug gun instead of a rifle greatly increases the chance of bucks making it to maturity.
2. InIowa our slug gun season doesn't start until this coming Saturday by which time the rut has pretty much wound down and mature bucks won't be out during daylight much which also keeps the mature buck numbers higher than most rifle states. |
RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: Rory/MO I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags |
RE: so what's the deal??
I know in IL they require Slug guns or Muzzleloaders because they say High powered rifles are too dangerous in populated areas.
I'm pretty sure why rifles are not legal, or maybe I dreamed it[8D] Dan |
RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: MeanV2 I know in IL they require Slug guns or Muzzleloaders because they say High powered rifles are too dangerous in populated areas. I'm pretty sure why rifles are not legal, or maybe I dreamed it[8D] Dan |
RE: so what's the deal??
so may be the outfitters and the DNR/ Game Comm. decided that it would be best to not have rifle hunting for deer b/c it would be safer...;) and it had nothing to do with allowing bucks to reach maturaty b/c a guy can't blast one at 400 yds with a bow/ shotgun??? Maybe?? Im just saying....
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RE: so what's the deal??
Does OH have a rifle season?
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RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: GMMAT Does OH have a rifle season? |
RE: so what's the deal??
South half of Minnesota Is Shotgun and ML only and the northern half Is pretty much any gun Including rifles. Southern Is much more open, the northern part Is much more wooded.
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RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: wahoohunter ORIGINAL: Rory/MO I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags I also like Steven's idea of limiting the out of staters that come in and deer hunt. P.S., everyone I've talked to about my reasoning on C, and actually hunts close to where I do, agrees with me. I know it's probably not the most traditional thing to do, but something's gotta change. I'll add another post about my reasoning after I get out of the shower. |
RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: Rory/MO ORIGINAL: wahoohunter ORIGINAL: Rory/MO I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags I also like Steven's idea of limiting the out of staters that come in and deer hunt. P.S., everyone I've talked to about my reasoning on C, and actually hunts close to where I do, agrees with me. I know it's probably not the most traditional thing to do, but something's gotta change. I'll add another post about my reasoning after I get out of the shower. Gotcha. Being unaware of the laws and regulations I thought perhaps you were saying that there should be more buck tags than doe tags which would, just as your seeing now, decrease herd numbers as the imbalanced herd would lead to bucks exhausting themselves due to the extended rut, poorer genetics and doe number sky rocketing to a point that habitat and food sources can become a major concern. thanks for the clarification ;) |
RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: wahoohunter ORIGINAL: Rory/MO ORIGINAL: wahoohunter ORIGINAL: Rory/MO I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags I also like Steven's idea of limiting the out of staters that come in and deer hunt. P.S., everyone I've talked to about my reasoning on C, and actually hunts close to where I do, agrees with me. I know it's probably not the most traditional thing to do, but something's gotta change. I'll add another post about my reasoning after I get out of the shower. Gotcha. Being unaware of the laws and regulations I thought perhaps you were saying that there should be more buck tags than doe tags which would, just as your seeing now, decrease herd numbers as the imbalanced herd would lead to bucks exhausting themselves due to the extended rut, poorer genetics and doe number sky rocketing to a point that habitat and food sources can become a major concern. thanks for the clarification ;) Hey, I try to make a point:D. If you wanna see my whole reasoning for all of this, PM me. Because this is taking forever to write lol[&:] |
RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: Steven McBee ORIGINAL: Rory/MO I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags a) kansas does this(and look at thier bucks) b) illinois and iowa do this ( and look at their bucks) c) well im not sure what state does this lol i would also like to add, no one should be able to come to missouri and just buy over the counter tags, this is one of the biggest reasons why missouri isnt a consistent big buck producer |
RE: so what's the deal??
ORIGINAL: gri22ly ORIGINAL: Steven McBee ORIGINAL: Rory/MO I REALLY wish that instead of AR's, Missouri would a) move the gun season to after the rut b) switch to bows, muzzleloaders, and shotguns c) cut down on the number of doe tags a) kansas does this(and look at thier bucks) b) illinois and iowa do this ( and look at their bucks) c) well im not sure what state does this lol i would also like to add, no one should be able to come to missouri and just buy over the counter tags, this is one of the biggest reasons why missouri isnt a consistent big buck producer |
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