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GMMAT 11-29-2008 01:56 PM

Jawbone aging question....
 
Just for poops and giggles (and after receiving a few PM's)....I'm gonna have the buck I shot yesterday jawbone aged. I think he's a 2.5 yr old, looking at his hips and just how he's not quite so filled out (like I would expect a 3.5 to be). I then got to wondering how him being worn down from the rut might affect that???? His head (everything about it for around here) tells me he "might" be older.

I sent him away today to get a euro mount done....and I suppose it would be easy enough to find out.

Do you use the lower jawbone? Upper? Both? If I get a euro.....won't I only get the upper back?

Thanks.

NY/Al 11-29-2008 02:05 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
You better get the lower jawbone back, thats by far the best way to age them, using teeth.

GMMAT 11-29-2008 02:09 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
I just called the guy and told him to save it for me. I can take it by my taxi and he'll tell me. The assistant at our shop is also a scorer for P&Y and he does this stuff, too.

Just interested. His head looks like an older deer's....and a 95+" rack on a 6 point 2.5yr old (again...around here) just seems like a stretch. I keep wishing I'd looked to see if anything had been broken off. But honestly....I didn't pay much attention.

I'm not gonna play him up. He looked like a 2.5yr old's body, to me. I just wonder how much he could have run himself down. He was still chasing, yesterday.

I mean......Is this a roman nose, or what??



NY/Al 11-29-2008 02:14 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
Theres so many factors involved, its hard to guess age based on physical characteristics alone. Ive seen some tiny 3.5 y/o's, and some beastly 2.5 y/o's. A 95" 2.5 is quite impressive, but not out of this world.

Either way, nice buck!;)

IAhuntr 11-29-2008 02:38 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
You can tell the difference between a 1, 2, or 3 y/o buck pretty easily by the tooth wear method. It's when they get older that it becomes more difficult. You can use the links with pics in Greg's jaw thread to narrow it down or post a pic of the jaw here when you get it back and I'm sure we can help you out. Also, your local conservation dept. usually has a biologist that will have some local known-age jawbones to compare it with.

Nice deer. Congrats on the harvest. Your persistance paid off nicely.

Matt/TN 11-29-2008 02:44 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
Why didn't you mount this one Jeff? Just curious? Seems like you've worked harder for this kill than any other one.

GMMAT 11-29-2008 02:51 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
Honestly Matt.....I don't have a nice euro mount....and I wanted one. I thought he was a heckuva candidate for it.

That's all.

rybohunter 11-29-2008 04:03 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
I know the popular age seems to be 2.5 for that buck, but comparing him to your other deer and the general sense that they are a little smaller down there, I'd am guessing he's at least 3.5, if not older. But I am also not the best age guesser.

Matt/TN 11-29-2008 04:55 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter

I know the popular age seems to be 2.5 for that buck, but comparing him to your other deer and the general sense that they are a little smaller down there, I'd am guessing he's at least 3.5, if not older. But I am also not the best age guesser.
I'm thinking he's older as well.

He'd be one HECK of a 2.5 for this area.

Jeff, that's a fair enough reason. I'd say it'll turn out great. ;)

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Matt / PA 11-29-2008 05:05 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I just called the guy and told him to save it for me. I can take it by my taxi and he'll tell me. The assistant at our shop is also a scorer for P&Y and he does this stuff, too.

Just interested. His head looks like an older deer's....and a 95+" rack on a 6 point 2.5yr old (again...around here) just seems like a stretch. I keep wishing I'd looked to see if anything had been broken off. But honestly....I didn't pay much attention.

I'm not gonna play him up. He looked like a 2.5yr old's body, to me. I just wonder how much he could have run himself down. He was still chasing, yesterday.

I mean......Is this a roman nose, or what??


It's weird trying to guess ages on your deer.......he LOOKS like a scaled down midwestern 3yr old in his face and body but has mass in his rack like an average2yr old which makes it goofy for me to guess.??

He definitely does NOT have a 'Roman nose" though, you'll know a Roman nosed deer when you see it and it's a characteristic of a much older deer. He's got a good old straight face dished nose.





GMMAT 11-29-2008 05:25 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
Matt/DT....others...I stand corrected on the roman nose thing. I was il-informed.

He fools me, Matt. I see the body (in its' state, right now) and I say 2.5. Everything else (rack size, head, mass) tells me he might be a bit older (foe here....those characteristics).

It'll be interesting to find out. Worst case scenario still has me tickled to death.;)

Matt....Is this a better example of a roman nose?





bawanajim 11-29-2008 05:29 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
Thats a great Buck , just think of him in a year or two.

Matt / PA 11-29-2008 05:32 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 

Matt....Is this a better example of a roman nose?
Yep sure is.

:)

GMMAT 11-29-2008 05:32 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 

Thats a great Buck , just think of him in a year or two.
Can't resist can ya Jim?:eek:

I'll think of him for MANY years to come....and recall the hunt/season with a lot of satisfaction;)

bawanajim 11-29-2008 05:47 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
Jeff, I don't think any one stresses maturity as a trophy factor more than you.How many post have you made about a mature doe being the greatest of trophy's?
That buck has every thing but age going for him with age he could of become legendary.
I tell you he's great, yet you deny it.[>:]

GMMAT 11-29-2008 06:09 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 

How many post have you made about a mature doe being the greatest of trophy's?
None.


Jeff, I don't think any one stresses maturity as a trophy factor more than you.
I don't have the luxury of shooting 130" 2.5 yr olds. Age structure IS important to me.I don;t think anyone takes more pissy potshots at me than you.What's your point?

Don't you have some leftovers you need to devour? Why don't you just keep your negative posts out of my threads? Seriously.


That buck has every thing but age going for him with age he could of become legendary.
I tell you he's great, yet you deny it.[>:]
LOL, Jim......he's the 4th largest buck I've seen from stand in over 200 sits spanningthe better part of 4 seasons. Forgive me ig I send an arrow his way....lol.

I denied he was great? Nevermind. You're not worth it. Don't answer that. Just go away.;)


bawanajim 11-29-2008 06:24 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
Well once again I will saythats a great buck, and your kind words as always, don't fall on deaf ears.;)

fingerz42 11-29-2008 09:08 PM

RE: Jawbone aging question....
 
I'm seeing 2.5 yo... He's a hell of a buck either way though..


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