Two guys held until deputy arrives
12-01-2008 | 05:41 PM
#41
Typical Buck
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From: hunterdon NJ
RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
We to have a property in warren county and the neighbors kids would ride their dirt bikes on constantly, so one day my dad went and talked to their parents, the next time he caught them he told their parents again. the folowing weekend we passed the house, which had two dirtbikes for sale in the front yard
12-03-2008 | 01:00 AM
#42
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From: South Carolina
RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
I will say it someone threatens me or pulls a gun on me there dead. No burning down the barn no baseball bat to the face. Bang there dead.
Though maybe he felt threaten and set his hand on his gun. With more then one person in the woods like that you never know when you will need the gun.
I will say it someone threatens me or pulls a gun on me there dead. No burning down the barn no baseball bat to the face. Bang there dead.
Though maybe he felt threaten and set his hand on his gun. With more then one person in the woods like that you never know when you will need the gun.
ORIGINAL: silentassassin
It sounds to me like the guys made an innocent mistake and whether he pulled the gun or not he still threatened them by putting his hand on it. First of all I wouldn't have stayed there. He could have shot me in the back if he wanted but that would have been his choice and second I would highly recommend not pulling a gun on me and not using it or threatening me with a gun and not using it!! That's how barns get burned down or people answer their door and get hit in the face with a baseball bat...... not saying I would or wouldn't have done that, but I know ALOT of people that frown on that as highly as I do and wouldn't recommend that type of action because I know far too many that would have made him pay dearly for that mistake.
It sounds to me like the guys made an innocent mistake and whether he pulled the gun or not he still threatened them by putting his hand on it. First of all I wouldn't have stayed there. He could have shot me in the back if he wanted but that would have been his choice and second I would highly recommend not pulling a gun on me and not using it or threatening me with a gun and not using it!! That's how barns get burned down or people answer their door and get hit in the face with a baseball bat...... not saying I would or wouldn't have done that, but I know ALOT of people that frown on that as highly as I do and wouldn't recommend that type of action because I know far too many that would have made him pay dearly for that mistake.
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
12-03-2008 | 08:40 AM
#43
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RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
ORIGINAL: StrutNtom
I haven't read all of the replies, but some of you guys are crazy for sticking up for the tresspassers. Lets flip the script.
Say that the tresspassers run into an old barbed wire fence while tresspassing on the mans land and rips half of the drivers face off. He in return sues the land owner AND WINS!!!!Now the land owner has to salehis land to pay thescum bag $,1000,000 in "damages".
I work in law enforcement and see this kind of stuff happen every day. Bottom line is that they didn't have permission to be on the land, PERIOD so stay the hell off!!!![:@][:@]
I haven't read all of the replies, but some of you guys are crazy for sticking up for the tresspassers. Lets flip the script.
Say that the tresspassers run into an old barbed wire fence while tresspassing on the mans land and rips half of the drivers face off. He in return sues the land owner AND WINS!!!!Now the land owner has to salehis land to pay thescum bag $,1000,000 in "damages".
I work in law enforcement and see this kind of stuff happen every day. Bottom line is that they didn't have permission to be on the land, PERIOD so stay the hell off!!!![:@][:@]
12-03-2008 | 08:53 AM
#44
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RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
While I sympathize with landowners dealing with tresspassers, I do not like the attitudes I am hear from landowners shirking their own responsibility of posting their propoerty "CLEARLY" so that all of this can be avoided. I hunt this one state forest that is about 2000 acres of forest. It shares an internal boundry with private ground. The state posts markers about every 200 yards (in the woods mind you) and the landowner has no markings yet complains and has people arrested if he catches them. I readily admit I was on his property when we first went there, but now I know where the INVISIBLE LINE IN THE WOODS is. Not everyone is as lucky as me.
It just irks me to see landowners not have their own land marked when it unclearly shares boarders with other properties and be intolerant to tresspassers. That street runs both ways whether you like it or not.
It just irks me to see landowners not have their own land marked when it unclearly shares boarders with other properties and be intolerant to tresspassers. That street runs both ways whether you like it or not.
12-03-2008 | 10:30 AM
#45
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RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
I did not say that. A person does not have a right to shoot you or even pull a gun on you just because your tresspassing. If the guy pulled a gun on me and i felt threaten yes i would shoot him to defend myself.
But i do not tresspass so thats not going to happen.
How does he have the right to pull a gun on you just because your on his land. Now if i was a land owner and found people on my land and felt the need i would have a gun in my hand. Had this happen in ky i saw to guys on my land down the ridge comeing up toward my barn. When i went to catch them i took my rifle loaded and on my shoulder. Happen to be a ar15. I did not do that to shoot someone or to intemidate the guys i did it because both of them had rifles in there hands. I did not threathen them or call the law though i should have. BUt i did catch them again a few weeks laters. Both times they were armed with 30 06s and hunting out of season.
But i do not tresspass so thats not going to happen.
How does he have the right to pull a gun on you just because your on his land. Now if i was a land owner and found people on my land and felt the need i would have a gun in my hand. Had this happen in ky i saw to guys on my land down the ridge comeing up toward my barn. When i went to catch them i took my rifle loaded and on my shoulder. Happen to be a ar15. I did not do that to shoot someone or to intemidate the guys i did it because both of them had rifles in there hands. I did not threathen them or call the law though i should have. BUt i did catch them again a few weeks laters. Both times they were armed with 30 06s and hunting out of season.
ORIGINAL: StrutNtom
So you are saying that if you were tresspassing and the land owner caught you and pulled a gun on you that you would shoot them? Wow.
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
I will say it someone threatens me or pulls a gun on me there dead. No burning down the barn no baseball bat to the face. Bang there dead.
Though maybe he felt threaten and set his hand on his gun. With more then one person in the woods like that you never know when you will need the gun.
I will say it someone threatens me or pulls a gun on me there dead. No burning down the barn no baseball bat to the face. Bang there dead.
Though maybe he felt threaten and set his hand on his gun. With more then one person in the woods like that you never know when you will need the gun.
ORIGINAL: silentassassin
It sounds to me like the guys made an innocent mistake and whether he pulled the gun or not he still threatened them by putting his hand on it. First of all I wouldn't have stayed there. He could have shot me in the back if he wanted but that would have been his choice and second I would highly recommend not pulling a gun on me and not using it or threatening me with a gun and not using it!! That's how barns get burned down or people answer their door and get hit in the face with a baseball bat...... not saying I would or wouldn't have done that, but I know ALOT of people that frown on that as highly as I do and wouldn't recommend that type of action because I know far too many that would have made him pay dearly for that mistake.
It sounds to me like the guys made an innocent mistake and whether he pulled the gun or not he still threatened them by putting his hand on it. First of all I wouldn't have stayed there. He could have shot me in the back if he wanted but that would have been his choice and second I would highly recommend not pulling a gun on me and not using it or threatening me with a gun and not using it!! That's how barns get burned down or people answer their door and get hit in the face with a baseball bat...... not saying I would or wouldn't have done that, but I know ALOT of people that frown on that as highly as I do and wouldn't recommend that type of action because I know far too many that would have made him pay dearly for that mistake.
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
12-03-2008 | 10:43 AM
#46
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RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
ORIGINAL: StrutNtom
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
.Just the teacher in me coming out. "Trying to defend property and himself" is describing the tresspasser in your sentence structure. English is tricky that way.
12-03-2008 | 03:26 PM
#48
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RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
lol
ORIGINAL: teedub31
How can this guy be called a tresspasser when he was defending his property.
Just the teacher in me coming out. "Trying to defend property and himself" is describing the tresspasser in your sentence structure. English is tricky that way.
ORIGINAL: StrutNtom
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
.Just the teacher in me coming out. "Trying to defend property and himself" is describing the tresspasser in your sentence structure. English is tricky that way.
12-05-2008 | 01:00 AM
#49
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From: South Carolina
RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
I did not say that. A person does not have a right to shoot you or even pull a gun on you just because your tresspassing. If the guy pulled a gun on me and i felt threaten yes i would shoot him to defend myself.
But i do not tresspass so thats not going to happen.
How does he have the right to pull a gun on you just because your on his land. Now if i was a land owner and found people on my land and felt the need i would have a gun in my hand. Had this happen in ky i saw to guys on my land down the ridge comeing up toward my barn. When i went to catch them i took my rifle loaded and on my shoulder. Happen to be a ar15. I did not do that to shoot someone or to intemidate the guys i did it because both of them had rifles in there hands. I did not threathen them or call the law though i should have. BUt i did catch them again a few weeks laters. Both times they were armed with 30 06s and hunting out of season.
I did not say that. A person does not have a right to shoot you or even pull a gun on you just because your tresspassing. If the guy pulled a gun on me and i felt threaten yes i would shoot him to defend myself.
But i do not tresspass so thats not going to happen.
How does he have the right to pull a gun on you just because your on his land. Now if i was a land owner and found people on my land and felt the need i would have a gun in my hand. Had this happen in ky i saw to guys on my land down the ridge comeing up toward my barn. When i went to catch them i took my rifle loaded and on my shoulder. Happen to be a ar15. I did not do that to shoot someone or to intemidate the guys i did it because both of them had rifles in there hands. I did not threathen them or call the law though i should have. BUt i did catch them again a few weeks laters. Both times they were armed with 30 06s and hunting out of season.
ORIGINAL: StrutNtom
So you are saying that if you were tresspassing and the land owner caught you and pulled a gun on you that you would shoot them? Wow.
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
I will say it someone threatens me or pulls a gun on me there dead. No burning down the barn no baseball bat to the face. Bang there dead.
Though maybe he felt threaten and set his hand on his gun. With more then one person in the woods like that you never know when you will need the gun.
I will say it someone threatens me or pulls a gun on me there dead. No burning down the barn no baseball bat to the face. Bang there dead.
Though maybe he felt threaten and set his hand on his gun. With more then one person in the woods like that you never know when you will need the gun.
ORIGINAL: silentassassin
It sounds to me like the guys made an innocent mistake and whether he pulled the gun or not he still threatened them by putting his hand on it. First of all I wouldn't have stayed there. He could have shot me in the back if he wanted but that would have been his choice and second I would highly recommend not pulling a gun on me and not using it or threatening me with a gun and not using it!! That's how barns get burned down or people answer their door and get hit in the face with a baseball bat...... not saying I would or wouldn't have done that, but I know ALOT of people that frown on that as highly as I do and wouldn't recommend that type of action because I know far too many that would have made him pay dearly for that mistake.
It sounds to me like the guys made an innocent mistake and whether he pulled the gun or not he still threatened them by putting his hand on it. First of all I wouldn't have stayed there. He could have shot me in the back if he wanted but that would have been his choice and second I would highly recommend not pulling a gun on me and not using it or threatening me with a gun and not using it!! That's how barns get burned down or people answer their door and get hit in the face with a baseball bat...... not saying I would or wouldn't have done that, but I know ALOT of people that frown on that as highly as I do and wouldn't recommend that type of action because I know far too many that would have made him pay dearly for that mistake.
I can read the headlines now "landowner slane by tresspasser trying to defend property and himself"
12-05-2008 | 01:23 AM
#50
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From: South Carolina
RE: Two guys held until deputy arrives
I am still amazed at how some of you guys are sticking up for the tresspassers. This kind of stuff is how the liberals and tree huggers have taken away a lot of our rights as hunters, gun owners, and so on. If a man can't protect his personal property what else is there to protect?