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Schultzy 11-10-2008 08:06 AM

RE: Technology gone amuck...
 

But anyway, $600 worth of toys ended a hunt prematurely.
I'm glad everything was ok In the end being that's main thing but are you nuts spending 600.00 dollars on this stuff???

davidmil 11-10-2008 10:15 AM

RE: Technology gone amuck...
 

ORIGINAL: BowTech_Shooter

Be careful using radio's for hunting in Ohio; it's illegal...

Here is the excerpt from the regulations which can be read at this link. http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/dow/regulations/hunting_general.aspx

"It shall be unlawful to use any device capable of transmitting or receiving a person’s voice to aid in the hunting or taking of deer".
Well I didn't know that.The radio is built into the GPS. Never would have considered that something to be used to aid in the taking of a deer when bowhunting from a tree. Heck, is there anyone these days that doesn't carry a cell phone with them when they go hunting? That would be the same deal. Who would have thought a state that allows XBow hunting would be against a radio to communicate... or a cell phone to call for help? A state that allows you to carry a handgun while bowhunting won't let you call home or call for help? You can't shoot a deer with the firearm, but you can carry it. That seems dumb. I see the thing as a safety item. The GPS updates your partners location if he keys the set. They're against the law but they allow them to be sold in the state. Check out the choices at Bass Pro Shop in Cinncinatti. I'm wondering if you're NOT using it to aid in taking a deer counts?[&:]

When You get to be 65 and over you start to think about things like, "if I have a heart attack or if I break something...how do I get help"?

KodiakArcher 11-10-2008 11:13 AM

RE: Technology gone amuck...
 

ORIGINAL: davidmil


ORIGINAL: BowTech_Shooter

Be careful using radio's for hunting in Ohio; it's illegal...

Here is the excerpt from the regulations which can be read at this link. http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/dow/regulations/hunting_general.aspx

"It shall be unlawful to use any device capable of transmitting or receiving a person’s voice to aid in the hunting or taking of deer".
Well I didn't know that.The radio is built into the GPS. Never would have considered that something to be used to aid in the taking of a deer when bowhunting from a tree. Heck, is there anyone these days that doesn't carry a cell phone with them when they go hunting? That would be the same deal. Who would have thought a state that allows XBow hunting would be against a radio to communicate... or a cell phone to call for help? A state that allows you to carry a handgun while bowhunting won't let you call home or call for help? You can't shoot a deer with the firearm, but you can carry it. That seems dumb. I see the thing as a safety item. The GPS updates your partners location if he keys the set. They're against the law but they allow them to be sold in the state. Check out the choices at Bass Pro Shop in Cinncinatti. I'm wondering if you're NOT using it to aid in taking a deer counts?[&:]

When You get to be 65 and over you start to think about things like, "if I have a heart attack or if I break something...how do I get help"?
David,
What don't you understand about "...to aid in the hunting or taking of deer." If you're carrying it to use for safety, to call your wife about dinner plans or to inform your hunting partner that you'll meet them back at the truck for lunch it's fine and legal. If you're calling your partner to tell him that there's a deer headed his way and to get ready, that's illegal. Pretty straightforward and simple, same as here in AK, yet we seem to see guys getting pinched for it every year.

As far as bear protection here in Kodiak or anywhere else in AK, on the streams while fishing or in the alpine, that's a whole other topic in itself but boy do you guys need some factual info supported by real world experience and not a bunch of bearanoid, ramped up hogwash. Shotguns are for birds and deer, pepper is for seasoning, neither is adequate to stop p.o.'d bears in Alaskan weather. If you feel the need to pack protection pack something that is adequately going to do the job and that is a rifle, or more appropriately, a good case of common sense! Call the local sporting goods guncounter (907-486-4276) guys at ADF&G (486-1880) or USF&W (487-2600) or any bear (not fish) guide in the state and don't ask for what they recommend for Joe Shmoe touron, ask what they carry themselves. If my guide was packing a shotgun for bear defense, I'd look for another guide! He may know fish but he obviously doesn't know bears, nor ballistics.

jackflap 11-10-2008 02:39 PM

RE: Technology gone amuck...
 
I had a similar experience with my nephew about 5 years ago when he was 18 or 19. We carry our cells and always touch base when we are on the ground usually through a text message.

On this particular event, his battery was goind dead and he was trying to call me and whisper he had deer around him and he would wait until the deer left (he was hunting a transition area from bedding to an alfala field) before coming down. But after about three attempts his phone went completely dead.

I thought the worse, envisioning him having fallen climbing down, and drove like a madman to where he was. Needless to say I was relieved to find out it was only a dead battery.

TEmbry 11-10-2008 03:09 PM

RE: Technology gone amuck...
 

ORIGINAL: KodiakArcher


As far as bear protection here in Kodiak or anywhere else in AK, on the streams while fishing or in the alpine, that's a whole other topic in itself but boy do you guys need some factual info supported by real world experience and not a bunch of bearanoid, ramped up hogwash. Shotguns are for birds and deer, pepper is for seasoning, neither is adequate to stop p.o.'d bears in Alaskan weather. If you feel the need to pack protection pack something that is adequately going to do the job and that is a rifle, or more appropriately, a good case of common sense! Call the local sporting goods guncounter (907-486-4276) guys at ADF&G (486-1880) or USF&W (487-2600) or any bear (not fish) guide in the state and don't ask for what they recommend for Joe Shmoe touron, ask what they carry themselves. If my guide was packing a shotgun for bear defense, I'd look for another guide! He may know fish but he obviously doesn't know bears, nor ballistics.

Am I wrong for thinking that carrying a gun at all in the alpine in August isnt a neccesity for protection?

Maybe I just don't fully comprehend how they are, but they don't seem to be one of these man hunting predators out for hunters blood like most people paint them....I guess I'm not "bearanoid", either that or just idiotic.

I don't need people telling me how dangerous a bear CAN be if it attacks you, I realize a 10 ft coke machine sized beastwith 4" claws that can outrun me can be dangerous....

Rob, do I need to wake up and pack a megasized pistol or possibly rifle, or is it a safe bet that I wont even SEE a bear up in the alpine, much less have an encounter.If I do carry it certainly wont be a shotgun, People can survive these blasts from close range, and after thinking about what you said, pepper is a silly idea as well. I would pack a bigger caliber pistol if I felt the neccesity for one, what says you?

davidmil 11-10-2008 03:31 PM

RE: Technology gone amuck...
 

David,
What don't you understand about "...to aid in the hunting or taking of deer." If you're carrying it to use for safety, to call your wife about dinner plans or to inform your hunting partner that you'll meet them back at the truck for lunch it's fine and legal. If you're calling your partner to tell him that there's a deer headed his way and to get ready, that's illegal. Pretty straightforward and simple, same as here in AK, yet we seem to see guys getting pinched for it every year.

Exactly... you're at the mercy of the warden. It doesn't say you can call your friend to touch base. It says you can't use it without explanation. Just like a lighted sight pin here in NY. It says you can't have a light that projects toward the animal, yet the warden I ask said he'd write a ticket if you had a light to brighten your pins. Not shining a light toward the animal but that's the deal.

KodiakArcher 11-10-2008 04:03 PM

RE: Technology gone amuck...
 

ORIGINAL: TEmbry

Am I wrong for thinking that carrying a gun at all in the alpine in August isnt a neccesity for protection?

Maybe I just don't fully comprehend how they are, but they don't seem to be one of these man hunting predators out for hunters blood like most people paint them....I guess I'm not "bearanoid", either that or just idiotic.

I don't need people telling me how dangerous a bear CAN be if it attacks you, I realize a 10 ft coke machine sized beastwith 4" claws that can outrun me can be dangerous....

Rob, do I need to wake up and pack a megasized pistol or possibly rifle, or is it a safe bet that I wont even SEE a bear up in the alpine, much less have an encounter.If I do carry it certainly wont be a shotgun, People can survive these blasts from close range, and after thinking about what you said, pepper is a silly idea as well. I would pack a bigger caliber pistol if I felt the neccesity for one, what says you?
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