Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
11-09-2008, 05:23 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
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Trev...
I was gonna ask if the 340 was the heavier spined version (over the 400 or the 500). Thanks.
I will call Dave if I go this route.
but since you said something about the weight tubes.....do they even make one for the a/c/c's? I admit to not knowing much about them.
FMJs work fine, id go with atleast .340 for your expected heavy BH though.
I was gonna ask if the 340 was the heavier spined version (over the 400 or the 500). Thanks.
I will call Dave if I go this route.
but since you said something about the weight tubes.....do they even make one for the a/c/c's? I admit to not knowing much about them.
Not sure on weight tubes, they offer different diameters and different GPI tubes, not sure if they make one small enough for ACC though.
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?c=58&s=187&p=0&i=6731%2D2X
They make a 1/4" version for axis type arrows which are small...quick measurement would tell you if they would fit your ACCs.
11-09-2008, 05:25 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
Will (iamyourhuck) told me to try the PSE Black Mamba's. I'm OK with Carbon Force arrows.....as I used them my first season (x-weaves).
10.5gpi....and the only thing I need to know is if they'll accept the inserts I wanna use (the muzzy 100gr).I think they should have enough spine.
Reasonable price.....good product....and my local shop carries their products.
10.5gpi....and the only thing I need to know is if they'll accept the inserts I wanna use (the muzzy 100gr).I think they should have enough spine.
Reasonable price.....good product....and my local shop carries their products.
11-09-2008, 05:29 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
FMJs are a solid way to go Jeff.
Don't order anything through Cabela's... not that there is anything wrong with them, but between Dave, Dan, bigbulls and myself (just that I know of) all owning or working in the archery industry we can get you the same stuff... faster... and if not cheaper than at the very least for the same price. Personally I know I can beat Cabela's on most stuff most of the time... for another HNI member, all the time.
FMJs are carbon cored, aluminum jacketed arrows. Hence the catchy name. They are about as tough an arrow so far as front end impact is concerned that you are likely to find. They definately are not aluminums, though you can still tear them up. I shot them all last season, and my girlfriend shoots the 500s off her Hoyt at 38#s and they fly very nicely. If you want an all carbon arrow... the standard Axis NANO 340s are right heavy as well... almost 9.4 or 9.5 if I recall. I shoot those myself and my finished arrow weight is 475gr with all the bells and whistles.
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any technically specific questions. I'd be glad to answer any curious questions you might have about it.... after all I do it for a living.
Don't order anything through Cabela's... not that there is anything wrong with them, but between Dave, Dan, bigbulls and myself (just that I know of) all owning or working in the archery industry we can get you the same stuff... faster... and if not cheaper than at the very least for the same price. Personally I know I can beat Cabela's on most stuff most of the time... for another HNI member, all the time.
FMJs are carbon cored, aluminum jacketed arrows. Hence the catchy name. They are about as tough an arrow so far as front end impact is concerned that you are likely to find. They definately are not aluminums, though you can still tear them up. I shot them all last season, and my girlfriend shoots the 500s off her Hoyt at 38#s and they fly very nicely. If you want an all carbon arrow... the standard Axis NANO 340s are right heavy as well... almost 9.4 or 9.5 if I recall. I shoot those myself and my finished arrow weight is 475gr with all the bells and whistles.
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any technically specific questions. I'd be glad to answer any curious questions you might have about it.... after all I do it for a living.
11-09-2008, 05:32 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
I think I'm gonna go the PSE Black Mamba route (with thanks to all who've made suggestions) for the reasons I listed. I need to know (PSE's site doesn't say) if the shafts will accept the 5/16's inserts....and I need to know if the spine is enough to handle the 200gr. tip.
Once I get the affirmative on those....I've got a good line on them.
I ordered from Dave at DLA just this past week. I wouldn't order anything from Cabela's I could get from guys here.
Once I get the affirmative on those....I've got a good line on them.
I ordered from Dave at DLA just this past week. I wouldn't order anything from Cabela's I could get from guys here.
11-09-2008, 05:36 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
Sounds good, if I was shooting as many animals as you per year, id rethink the cost on arrows too. LOL Buying locally and having replacements close by is always a plus as well.
if you do decide to go Easton arrows, a .340 spine with a 100 grn insert and normal 100 grn BH spinesnear perfectionon OT2 for your setup. near 17% FOC, almost 79 ft/lbs, and 253-254 on speed range....plus, 100 grn BHs are unlimited as far as choices go....your finished arrow is tenths of a grain away from 550 as well.
Im sure the right spined arrow for any brand will work...OT2 doesnt list the Black Mambas[&:], but PSE arrows come in 100, 200, 300 spine...none of those show to be stout enough in the other radial x weave arrows for 200 grns of bh/insert. Not sure if Black Mambas are stouter though.
if you do decide to go Easton arrows, a .340 spine with a 100 grn insert and normal 100 grn BH spinesnear perfectionon OT2 for your setup. near 17% FOC, almost 79 ft/lbs, and 253-254 on speed range....plus, 100 grn BHs are unlimited as far as choices go....your finished arrow is tenths of a grain away from 550 as well.
Im sure the right spined arrow for any brand will work...OT2 doesnt list the Black Mambas[&:], but PSE arrows come in 100, 200, 300 spine...none of those show to be stout enough in the other radial x weave arrows for 200 grns of bh/insert. Not sure if Black Mambas are stouter though.
11-09-2008, 05:37 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
Jeff I'm shooting the Black Mamba's and they are super tough. The Deer I shot this year fell on the arrow and it didn't break. I hit the off side shoulder square on the bone, it sounded like I hit a 2x4. The Arrow never fell out, and when I flipped the buck over he had fell square over on the arrow. I pulled it out wiped it off and it's as good as new.
11-09-2008, 05:48 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
I appreciate the lesson(s) guys. Much appreciated.
I'll call LAS or PSE tomorrow and see what they say about the inserts. If not.....I'll look at the FMJ's.
Thanks, again....all
I'll call LAS or PSE tomorrow and see what they say about the inserts. If not.....I'll look at the FMJ's.
Thanks, again....all
11-09-2008, 06:06 PM
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RE: Who makes a good, heavy (10gpi+) hunting arrow?
a/c/c's are great. If I could add the weight to the tip of them (if a weighted insert would fit them).....or....I could add a weight tube....I might still use them. I've loved shooting them the last two years.
