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Deer Duster 11-04-2008 09:35 AM

how to draw back
 
it seems everytime i draw back on a deer i intend to shoot i spook it. what can i do to stop that? help would be appriceated.

HoytSpeed 11-04-2008 09:38 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
I like to wait until there is something between myself and the deer, to block his field of view. If he's in the open and you move, forget it. I've had them look up at me when i'm 30ft up in my stand. Make sure you have some good cover behind you also.

Deer Duster 11-04-2008 09:40 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
i could do that but i think my bow maybe too loud. i am using a drop away arrow rest and carbon arrows and the arrowrest i bought from walmart for $17.00.

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Deer Duster 11-04-2008 09:43 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
also i am maybe a little more than 15 yards from the deer. so please if someone can give me advice on anything like that.

GMMAT 11-04-2008 09:48 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
Simply using some moleskin will quieten your rest. I'd shoot it afterwards to make sure it didn't throw off your center shot, though.

I like hanging (I climb 100% of the time) with other large trees in close proximity.....or GREAT cover in between. This is one reason I chose to go to 60#'s DW. I know I can hold it longer....and I know I can draw sooner (if need be) because of that fact.

I've been busted trying to get drawn on a deer.....due to a noisy rest. That's another topic.;) Since changing it.....I haven't been busted drawing in numerous attempts (more than 30, probably in 3+ seasons). If you climb.....I love a large Dia. tree within 10' of me (actually a bit closer.....as I've been as close as to hang my bow hook in the "other" tree). That gives you a chance to draw when he's between you and that cover. Rarely do I draw where I have to hold my bow at full draw for more than a few seconds, though. Having that cover also allows you to let off without spooking him if you choose to NOT take the animal.



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Deer Duster 11-04-2008 09:52 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
thanks for that. also i have a problem when i see a deer i start to breath heavy and shake. what can fix that? please help.

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muzzyman88 11-04-2008 09:55 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
Several things come to mind.

Cover is number one. I don't care if you're in a tree or on the ground, if the deer is in the wide open, its very difficult to draw back on them without being detected. Back cover helps some, but it still is usually not enough.

Secondly, try to draw on the deer while their head is behind something or, if he's got his head down and is walking, you can get away with it....sometimes. The key here is to have the bow pointed directly at them and draw slowly and smoothly while they are walking. If you're pulling too much weight, you'll sky your bow and make a lot of movement. A good way to find out if you are pulling too much is to put on every single peice of hunting clothing you'll wear, sit flat on your butt on the floor and try to pull the bow slowly and smoothly without moving the bow. If you can't, there is a good chance you are pulling too much weight.

I can shoot a 70lb bow almost all day without issue. However, for hunting, I shoot my bow turned down to 61-62lbs. I can pull it level and slowly this way.

Make sure you have fleece, moleskin, or some other peice of quieting material on that rest. You MUST be quiet when pulling back.

Watch the body language of the deer. I take it your young. You'll learn from experience. If a deer is on alert or appears nervous, it will be much more difficult to pull off a shot. In this case, wait, let them get behind a tree or other cover before drawing back. Even then, becareful. A deer on high alert is ready to bolt in a millisecond. Aiming a bit lower in the vitals is usually a good idea in this case. However, if the deer is out past 30yds and on high alert, I'd rather let that deer walk than risk a bad shot.

hope this helps

virginiashadow 11-04-2008 10:14 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
The draw is the sweet science of bowhunting. I used to draw too early, then draw too late....now I think I have it about right.

Use good background cover so you do not get skylined.

Draw when the deer is not on full alert. Try to time the deer by drawing so the he cannot see you and that you can shoot immediately when given the opportunity. Sometimes you have to wait until the deer walks past you before you draw.

IL_BOW_MAN 11-04-2008 10:21 AM

RE: how to draw back
 

ORIGINAL: muzzyman88

Several things come to mind.

Secondly, try to draw on the deer while their head is behind something or, if he's got his head down and is walking, you can get away with it....sometimes. The key here is to have the bow pointed directly at them and draw slowly and smoothly while they are walking. If you're pulling too much weight, you'll sky your bow and make a lot of movement. A good way to find out if you are pulling too much is to put on every single peice of hunting clothing you'll wear, sit flat on your butt on the floor and try to pull the bow slowly and smoothly without moving the bow. If you can't, there is a good chance you are pulling too much weight.


I couldn't agree with this more!! This is one of the first things that came to my mind. I see a lot of people that can't pull their bow back without turning, raising and doing weird things with there body. It took me many years to find the sweet spot in poundage so that I can keep my bow on target during the entire draw cycle. When I am shooting targets, 9 times out of 10 I am within 6" of the spot I want to aim once I reach full draw. Very little to no move ment side to side. All my movement is moving away from the target and it is less that the deer might catch moving.

KodiakArcher 11-04-2008 10:39 AM

RE: how to draw back
 

ORIGINAL: Deer Duster

thanks for that. also i have a problem when i see a deer i start to breath heavy and shake. what can fix that? please help.
Spend as much time near deer as you can (year round scouting). Shoot 3-D's a lot so that you're confident in making the shot and don't have to worry about it when the time comes. Focus on the shot you're going to make (where, when) and not the deer as it approaches. Breath deep and chill, it's not a deer, it's a target just like the hundreds of 3d's you've smoked all year round.

fingerz42 11-04-2008 10:57 AM

RE: how to draw back
 

ORIGINAL: Deer Duster

thanks for that. also i have a problem when i see a deer i start to breath heavy and shake. what can fix that? please help.
Try ripping your heart out of your chest. Thats about the only thing to fix it.

NY/Al 11-04-2008 11:52 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
Wait untill they look the other way??

chrowski 11-04-2008 12:10 PM

RE: how to draw back
 
is your draw weight too much for you to handel? For instance, if I hand my bow to my younger brother, he has to point the bow towards the sky to pull it back. If you can't pull your bow back in any position possible for starting your draw, this results in a lot of jerky movements while attempting the pull back.

Deer Duster 11-05-2008 07:23 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
thanks you have provided the most help to me so far and yes i am young i am only 16 and practice every day for at least 30 min. and my bow is at 63 pounds. i am going this afternoon.

Deer Duster 11-05-2008 07:31 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
i dont have a problem with hitting the deer as much as when the deer show up i get buck fever such as i start breathing and get nervous. i know i can hit the deer.

HammytheHunter 11-05-2008 07:41 AM

RE: how to draw back
 

ORIGINAL: Deer Duster
when i see a deer i start to breath heavy and shake. what can fix that? please help.
If the day comes that you don't get that feeling... then that is the day I think one should put the bow or gun down.

As for the drawing... like some have said, it sounds like your poundage could be too high or you could just be drawing when the deer is in the open. Like everyone else, I prefer to draw when the deers head is behind something, down or looking away. BEFORE a deer is even in site... I run through scenarios of areas that might allow me ample chance to draw back without being caught. I agree that cover is a key, however, I don't believe you need to be in the thickest part of the woods to be successful with a bow.

Like others have mentioned... practice, practice, practice. Usually before the season starts I shoot at my 3D target by thinking to myself its a real life situation. I practice all types of angles and other things. I would begin practicing drawing controlled and fluid on my 3D target. While practicing... think of the target as a live deer.... so that you try to move as little as possible when drawing back. Also work on controlling your breathing in practice. You might not shake in practice... but knowing that you can control your breathing in ANY situation is great,

Good luck.

Deer Duster 11-05-2008 08:39 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
thanks also that helps.

Deer Duster 11-05-2008 09:34 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
any more info would be great.


Pat Curtis 11-05-2008 09:56 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
I'm blessed to be around deer most times when I'm out hunting, so I don't get the shakes or knockin' knee's too often. After the shot though...when I know it's a good one....then I get giddy.


My advice would be (like in any big moment in your life...or during an intense pressure moment in sports)......BREATH! What you're doing is simple.....not to mention the fact it's just a deer. Simplify things...dumb things down...and you'll be able todo what you've been practicing to do in your sleep. I know some people are more "on edge"...or have a layed back personality. I'm more the latter of thetwo. Just stay cool...BREATH...and get the job done.

hynscp 11-05-2008 10:30 AM

RE: how to draw back
 
I am a rookie this year to bowhunting, the first time out I got shakey knees so bad when a doe came near me. The next time out I had some small does come in on me and it was at dark. I didn't feel right taking the shot with barley any light left. But that was the best thing I could have done. I sat there for an hour watching them from about 15yrds away. Just sitting there watching them and seeing how they act, calmed my nerves down. Hope this helps.

wis_bow_huntr 11-05-2008 12:25 PM

RE: how to draw back
 
Wait untill they are facing away from you, or head down or theres somethign between you and the deer and then draw back, slwoly and calmly.


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