RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

I think that if the deer died from YOUR shot, then it can be claimed as your kill, regardless of how long you had to look.

Now, i have a few questions semi-related to this....

How does that work for the DNR? Say you shoot a buck and can't find it, then 3 weeks later you kill a different nice buck. A week later while doing a deer drive or something you find him close by in a ditch or under a blow over? How would that be handled?

And what about the HNI bowhunting contest? What if you find your buck a month later, can you still enter it?

RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

So just because I didnt find it for weeks later, I didnt kill it? Please, I took the shot, and if I found him 2 weeks later, I still caused his death, so yes, he IS going on my wall. But...... I will tell the true story, in my mind, there is no need to lie about it. Burt I still feel that if when I released the arrow, I had it in my head that he was going on my wall, I dont care if I find him in the spring, he still deserves to get mounted.
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RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

If you keep looking and eventually find it I think it "counts". Whether the books let it in or not, I don't know or care. My first bowkill was a "late" recovery, I still kind of consider it my first bow kill, but I know it not legit. So ia have 2 1sts[8D]

RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

After 23 years archery hunting, Ill bet I have! I have 1 set of P&y antlers in my storage room that say so. When poeple ask why arnt them upstairs like the rest, all I can say is "it is a long story". So no I wont retract crap! BTW MN P&y knows jack about that critter. If I need the scavengers of the earth to find my bow kills I should probly give it up. JMHO!

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I don't think it's right to say someone shouldn't mount adeer just because it was difficult to find, or because some 'yotes ate some of the meat.Ifa hunter is commited enough-and they should be- to stay on the trail of a deer that is wounded, then I think they owe to themselves and the deer to make the best use of what's left of the deer.

Personally, I have more of an issue with people who just hunt for horns. Notice I underlined "just," because I want to make a distinction. Like most bowhunters, I dream of killing thosemonsters, too; however, I love venison, my kids have been eatin it since they got their first teeth, and they love venison.

Huntersused to harvest deerto put food on the table, andlosinga deer would be a tragedy, because of losing themeat - not a rack!

RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

I just can't believe you would give one up like that! That's all, just shocked!

RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

Just something to ponder on Steve, and im not trying to start something since your my buddy and all :Dbut sometimes you have no choice. Two of my mounts have different capes on them thanks to a house fire in 2005 :(
but in the circumstance you speak of...me neither ;)

RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

I think In your scenario Dan I'd possibly do the same thing. Man, I hope I never have to make that decision because of a house fire. I'm so sorry about the house fire Dan, that's one of my biggest fears!!

RE: Question..on P&Y or moral victory..
 

So you shoot a great buck in the afternoon right at tail end of legal shooting time.It looks like a good shot to you,you inspect the arrow and it covered with lung blood.You wait an hour and you start to track it,you go 100 yards and you jump the deer.You decide to do the cautious thing and you back out and go back the next morning.You recover the deer very quickly within 75 yards but the coyotes found it during the night and there is nothing left.It was a legitimate kill and a scenario that plays itself out 1000's of times every season.That buck gets mounted even if I have touse a cape from another deerand it has nothing to do with bragging or boasting it has to do with honoring a magnificent animal.
My mounts are for me to look at and appreciate and the people I choose to allow to see them,they have nothing to do with any thing that suggests that I am some how a better hunter than some else because of whats on my wall.

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I believe P&Y and B&C were formed in the intent of honoring the animal not the hunter. Unfortunatly it is taken very much the oposite of that.

I love the challenge of hunting mature deer. Doe or buck. I shot a buck last year with a gun that qualifies for Ohio Big bucks (140 and over). I have yet to get it scored. Why? Just haven't felt like it or had the time. He's not a B&C buck so I'm not worried about that. In fact I shoot what I like and don't worry about the score. Sure I measure them but only as a reference. I think to many people are worried about score. I know I have been in the past. I can say I have wanted to kill a P&Y buck but only as its a motivational mark for me to wait on a bigger one.

Would I enter it if I found it on day 2... eventually if i felt like it. I know I'd be trying to improve my traking skills as I failed the animal in that part.