Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
#12
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
A little topic-related story ...
Never, ever had any luck rattlin until last Sunday, when a 130 class came in (big for the area but not the biggest), of course very quietly and directly behind me and to my right. It was impossible to get in shooting position without him seeing me so I froze hoping he'd a make a mistake - he didn't. I'm guessing he wasn't the dominant buck of the area b/c he was scared looking, not agressive. He hovered 20 yds away for a minute or so, all the while looking around the base of mytree. By the time he looked away and I made a move he was in the thick stuff headin out the way he came
Honestly I've rattled in the past just to kill time, I was unsuccessful at it for so long, it suprised me when this dude responded, but next time I'll be more prepared.
Never, ever had any luck rattlin until last Sunday, when a 130 class came in (big for the area but not the biggest), of course very quietly and directly behind me and to my right. It was impossible to get in shooting position without him seeing me so I froze hoping he'd a make a mistake - he didn't. I'm guessing he wasn't the dominant buck of the area b/c he was scared looking, not agressive. He hovered 20 yds away for a minute or so, all the while looking around the base of mytree. By the time he looked away and I made a move he was in the thick stuff headin out the way he came
Honestly I've rattled in the past just to kill time, I was unsuccessful at it for so long, it suprised me when this dude responded, but next time I'll be more prepared.
#13
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
I "blind" call a lot and have A LOT of success with it. Maybe it's the area where I hunt but it works for me. I'd say that every buck I've killed as been a result of me blind calling or throwing out a few grunts when they are in sight. Good luck!
#14
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Since you asked.....
I'm afraid of alerting a perfectly calm whitetail that may come by me as to my whereabouts.....or "something's" whereabouts. For every deer you tell me you call in.....there could just as easily be that many (or 2X?, 3X, 4X???) or more who hear it and go the other way.
I'm talking about HERE....where I hunt. I wouldn't begin to think I know someone else's woods better than they do...so I won't speak for anywhere else.
I think you may have heard this before but, What are you afraid of, actually calling one in?
I'm afraid of alerting a perfectly calm whitetail that may come by me as to my whereabouts.....or "something's" whereabouts. For every deer you tell me you call in.....there could just as easily be that many (or 2X?, 3X, 4X???) or more who hear it and go the other way.
I'm talking about HERE....where I hunt. I wouldn't begin to think I know someone else's woods better than they do...so I won't speak for anywhere else.
Sure it's unknown but I've never turned one away with soft calling.
And again, when you have a target buck in your vision and he's not coming, why not call? If he comes, shazam...if not, he's not spooked, you still didn't have a shot.
I guess your afraid because you don't know.
It worked for me in your woods.
#15
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
I did so tonight, and he did not change his mind off the doe he was joggin round my tree with [:@]
Honestly though, I have killed three deer off of me grunting them in here, and have grunted in quite a few more. Last year I blind called in a 5 point and turned around the 10 pt I shot . I have complete and total faith in grunting, but ticklin the horns is a totally different story.
Honestly though, I have killed three deer off of me grunting them in here, and have grunted in quite a few more. Last year I blind called in a 5 point and turned around the 10 pt I shot . I have complete and total faith in grunting, but ticklin the horns is a totally different story.
#16
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
That's just it Jeff, in calling for 25 years, I've never seen a buck that changed direction simply because of soft calling. They either come in or ignore you. What makes you think your scaring any?
I used to hunt the same areas over and over again (because I had to). If I were to use calls.....I'm alerting deer to the presence of "something". First time a deer looks for the source and doesn't see it....does it spook him? What spooked that buck in PA last year? We just don't know. We can guess....but we just don't know.
I do know if I don't make a peep.....chances are I'm not spooking anything.
Sure it's unknown but I've never turned one away with soft calling.
And again, when you have a target buck in your vision and he's not coming, why not call? If he comes, shazam...if not, he's not spooked, you still didn't have a shot.
I guess your afraid because you don't know.
It worked for me in your woods.
#17
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
Jeff as long as you have several different spots to hunt, then I would try the blind calling. IF it doesnt work switch for another spot, keep shangin up your calling locations, this is what has led to my success in the past at calling deer in. I am not there everyday calling them in, only every once in a while.
#18
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
Oneshot I did a little this morning (blind calling)....in a spot where I've ONLY seen bucks. I'm not afraid to try it there (okay....clarification....I'm not "worried" about educating deer, there, as I've only hunted this spot, twice). I've got spots where I won't do it, though (like pretty much all of the spots I had last year and the 2 years before).
I'm not against it. I'm against it in certain places, HERE.
I'm not against it. I'm against it in certain places, HERE.
#19
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
I used to hunt the same areas over and over again (because I had to). If I were to use calls.....I'm alerting deer to the presence of "something". First time a deer looks for the source and doesn't see it....does it spook him? What spooked that buck in PA last year? We just don't know. We can guess....but we just don't know.
I understand what your saying, your not "alerting" them, you just calling to them. If you are subtle, they will either come or flick their tail and continue what they are doing. No alerting, no harm, no foul.
I called aggressively when I was there, of course it was more into the rut. Most of the bucks just kept doing what they were doing and ignored me. That one I missed (most likely one of your mounts) heard me, walked up the park fence, and turned and walked right back down to me. (The call).
None of them spooked. Did I spook any I didn't see? We'll never know, I was calling to the ones I did see and wanted to come.
None that you know of. Kinda like when people say they've never been busted.
I don't disagree with that. It's the blind calling I take issue with.
Why do you have to be a sarcastic smartass, Rob....every time we have a difference of opinion? I'm not "afraid" (maybe "smart"??). And what don't I know? Is it really that hard to just say you disagree without the belittlement attempts?
I'm afraid of alerting a perfectly calm whitetail that may....
So you say. Got any harvest photos?
Now who's being the sarcastic smartass. It's not my word, you know I shot and missed. Big deal. The call worked, period. Now I'm out. Have a great season.
#20
RE: Dear Rob...I may have to recant on calling
I may have to give calling a try this weekend. I have heard more buck grunting this last week than in the last 2 years combined.
I tried a decoy 2 weeks ago and it spooked the does. That's not good after they blow a few times.[:@]
I tried a decoy 2 weeks ago and it spooked the does. That's not good after they blow a few times.[:@]