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GMMAT 10-29-2008 09:36 AM

Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
Who actually KNOWS when they run them off?

I saw a mature doe with a BB fawn, this morning. It got me curious as to when they actually run them off.

Thanks.

bigcountry 10-29-2008 09:40 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
They start running them off as soon as the does goes into heat usually.

englum_06 10-29-2008 09:53 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
During shotgun season several years ago (probably 5) two goes came out into the field and my dad shot. Well, turns out it was a doe and a button buck. The little guy went and laid down right next to mama (she was dead) for about 45 minutes. We gave him plenty of time hoping he would leave, but he never did. We actually had to more-less bump him off of her. Kinda sad really!

englum_06 10-29-2008 09:54 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
^^^^ Our shotgun season isin the latter part of November, usually something like the 22,23 and 24th.

Ben / PA 10-29-2008 09:56 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
Hard to tell, I think it most has to do with each specific mommy. (mood, cycle, experience) I saw a button lonely and scared last night. Ran full bore out into the field at 5:45 and then stuck his head in a bush and stayed there for the rest of the night. He was there when I left. Over an hour later. In the meantime a small 8 and two of the biggest bucks I have ever had in front of me were dogging does. What a night.

kickin_buck 10-29-2008 10:01 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
I have been seeing lone BB's since almost the start of the season (1 Oct).

NCRemington700 10-29-2008 10:16 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
I had a doe and a BB that would come in to my stand sight in NC last year. They showed up religiously together...all the way through December. Normally I would say she's going to run him off when she's almost "ready" but in the case I mentioned...

Schultzy 10-29-2008 10:31 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
They run them off when they feel like It. I've seen doe's get bred and then that same doe has her BB (fawn) back with her a week or so later after she was bred. She'll run them off for a while but some seem to always come back. Most I think get run off for good In the winter months.

bigcountry 10-29-2008 11:03 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
This year, I saw something kinda interesting. I saw a first year buck, a 4 pt, that was trying to hang around with a large doe and fawn.The young 4 pt kept trying hang with the mama. And she kept running him off. I bet ya he was her young last year.

GMMAT 10-29-2008 11:06 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
Thanks, guys. I was just wondering if there was any "magical" timeline. I always hear of this...but never actually heard. I suppose the general consensus is....."whenever"?[8D]

WV Hunter 10-29-2008 11:31 AM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
I saw a bb following a spike on Saturday....the only 2 deer I saw, my guess he's been run off already - or mama shot. I've seen it at all different times over the years, I have no clue as to "when" it typically happens, or if it always happens or not.

EVERY year I see young bucks (yearlings) mixed in with the doe groups, and some I know for sure are the young of the doe from the year previous (I see them all year round in my yard, get to know em). This tells me they don't all get run off as BB's, I'd be interested to know the % that do.

Coincidentally, I NEVER see those same bucks again with those does after they are 1.5 - its always the next years crop with mama

RobinAim Low 10-29-2008 01:50 PM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
It's not just the bb's that get run off, its her fawns regardless of sex. Happens as she feels her breeding cycle starting up. Those fawns will return to her afterwards, and any buck fawns would be run off for good as yearlings next year.


TreednNC 10-29-2008 01:59 PM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
saw one with mommy saturday morning

bowdoc1 10-29-2008 02:19 PM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
Here in Ne I have seen a lot of small button buck and small doe running around like there lost the last two weeks. the big old does and buck have despaired. When you see small this year fawns running around with out the old does it means and buckare chasing the does in there pre- rut and has ran them off. I had five come under the othernight and fouryesterday morningthree button and one little doe.

mauser06 10-29-2008 02:36 PM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
ive seen a lone BB opening week of bow season (early oct) just this year...he was a large BB and didnt look lost or confused (like i see many that are looking that way)

id tend to agree with "whenever" probably something it is very far from anything anyone can come up with some consistence with...

id almost think that if mom never ran him off, that when the buck came to chase her and breed her, he will run him off....just defending/claiming his doe.


ive always thought lone antlerless deer were likely to be BBs...and cant remember ever seeing 2 BBs running together...till last year in flintlock season...2 yearlings came out of a drive behind about 20 other deer...they were about last in line and all alone...i checked quick but not well enough...smoke cleared and there laid my BB...they were both BBs as the other ran by i seen its buttons...guess mom ran them both off and they hung out together...i figured mom got hit or killed and it was going to be 2 yearling doe...no regrets...but i was shocked, though i should knew better and not assumed...

GregH 10-29-2008 03:33 PM

RE: Who "knows" about does and BB's?
 
I get them on camera together through March, that's when I take my cameras out of the woods. They're run off while she breeds but join back up afterwards. I believe that they're run off when she starts preparing to drop her new fawns, possibly a month or so befroe hand.


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