Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
#31
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
Its not to try and force everyone into harnesses....just an eye opener as to what damages are done by your death...not to yourself, but to others. Might help convince a few who are on the fence about harnesses, or only where one half of the time.
Good thread Trevor!!
#32
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
I've been meaning to buy one as well, I guess I'll have to spit out the 100$ a little sooner than I thought.
BTW, to the guy who said you would hang there until you dehyrdated, ummmmm no. You're body's internal organs start to die after (15 minutes I believe) of hanging in your harness. And this is simply because you're cutting off nearly all blood circulation to your legs. So you can hang there for a while but after not long at all you're body will begin to shut down and before you know it you will slip into a coma and die. No dehydration to it.
BTW, dehydration...? Seriously..? How long did you plan on hanging there... 3 days..? 4 days...? A week..?
BTW, to the guy who said you would hang there until you dehyrdated, ummmmm no. You're body's internal organs start to die after (15 minutes I believe) of hanging in your harness. And this is simply because you're cutting off nearly all blood circulation to your legs. So you can hang there for a while but after not long at all you're body will begin to shut down and before you know it you will slip into a coma and die. No dehydration to it.
BTW, dehydration...? Seriously..? How long did you plan on hanging there... 3 days..? 4 days...? A week..?
#33
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
I just looked this up and it is referred to as "suspension trauma" and while some of my original post is not SPOT on, it is fairly accurate. Here is a link to a good read for all hunters who wear safety vests to realize you can't just hang there forever.
http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/d0500/d000568/d000568.html
http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/d0500/d000568/d000568.html
#34
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Gleason, TN
Posts: 1,327
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
I broke down and bought the hunter safety system, at a little over $100 it wasn't easy for me, but it's a lot cheaper than medical bills.
They say you can die from a fall even if you are wearing a harness, so here's my question, are there any reports of any huntersthat actually died from suspension trauma (orthostatic intolerance) with a full body harness? I've heard hundreds of stories of people that passed by falling from a tree stand, but none that involved properly wearing a full body safety harness.
If you're properly wearing a modern full body harness that rated for your weight and and in good condition, I think that seriously reduces your risk of being dead from a fall.
Like they say, "Don't let your next hunt be your last".
They say you can die from a fall even if you are wearing a harness, so here's my question, are there any reports of any huntersthat actually died from suspension trauma (orthostatic intolerance) with a full body harness? I've heard hundreds of stories of people that passed by falling from a tree stand, but none that involved properly wearing a full body safety harness.
If you're properly wearing a modern full body harness that rated for your weight and and in good condition, I think that seriously reduces your risk of being dead from a fall.
Like they say, "Don't let your next hunt be your last".
#35
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2004
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RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
After 2 decades of not wearing a harness, and a couple of near misses, I broke down and bought the HSS. I've made a commitment to use it starting at the base of the tree, and it only takes maybe one extra minute of climbing for you to reach your hunting height. Big reason for me doing it was due to these threads, and listening to you guys. ANY reason one can give as to why NOT to wear one just doesn't hold water. If you can't afford the vest type, use the cheapo that comes with the stand. It takes a few minutes to get on, but it can save your butt. The HSS makes draging a deer a breeze also. Another benefit!
#36
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Moravia NY USA
Posts: 2,164
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
You bet It's an eye opener! It Is for me and I can guarantee this that I will have myself a harness before season's end. Like a few others have said (2 Lunger, Tribal) I have a little girl who wants to see her dad In a decent state, not crippled. Thanks guys for opening my eye's more. It will get done In the next few weeks.
Good thread Trevor!!
Its not to try and force everyone into harnesses....just an eye opener as to what damages are done by your death...not to yourself, but to others. Might help convince a few who are on the fence about harnesses, or only where one half of the time.
Good thread Trevor!!
And same to the others as well!
Steve
#37
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 7,876
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy
Nodog - I hope I am misreading your implication.
Go read the thread.
Steve
Nodog - I hope I am misreading your implication.
Go read the thread.
Steve
I hope I'm misreading yours. Mine have always been clear, there are way too many people in trees. People should stop talking people into doing it. Learning to hunt in a tree is not good.
Punch this into google and tell me how wearing one isprotection from carelessness.
"man dies from fall wearing a harness"
Not trying to ruffle feathers, or start a raging debate....just wondering.
#38
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
ORIGINAL: nodog
I asked a simple question for more info. Ya got any? Post it and keep with the thread starters request, or don't and let the question and this post die.
I asked a simple question for more info. Ya got any? Post it and keep with the thread starters request, or don't and let the question and this post die.
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
Nodog, he hasn't linked to the real story because he wants his friend to remain annonymous at the wishes of the guys mother. She is worried of getting calls and visitors constantly about the story.I dont even personally know the man, just spreading his story to help get the word out as he wished.
Nodog, he hasn't linked to the real story because he wants his friend to remain annonymous at the wishes of the guys mother. She is worried of getting calls and visitors constantly about the story.I dont even personally know the man, just spreading his story to help get the word out as he wished.
#39
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Moravia NY USA
Posts: 2,164
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
Nodog - Trevor put the link to the thread in his 1st post here. Describ's the guy finding his friend dead of a broken neck and what he and the family are going thru.
Heart wrenching read and hopefully a wake up for some - as it appears to be.
I apologize if I misread your intent in your question.
Steve
Heart wrenching read and hopefully a wake up for some - as it appears to be.
I apologize if I misread your intent in your question.
Steve
#40
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Milwaukee WI
Posts: 1,161
RE: Simple Question for those who DONT wear harnesses.
I have another simple question for those who don't wear a safety harness:
If a fall from the top of the Sear's Tower can kill you just as a fall from 20 feet up can kill you, why would you wear a safety harness when on the side of the building but not on the side of the tree?
Bonus question: Are you deader with one and not the other?
If a fall from the top of the Sear's Tower can kill you just as a fall from 20 feet up can kill you, why would you wear a safety harness when on the side of the building but not on the side of the tree?
Bonus question: Are you deader with one and not the other?