Pass through with sharp blades verse "dull" blades
 

I keep hearing people say, "unless the blades are really really sharp, there won't be much of a blood trail on pass through". Maybe it is just me but I don't get it. If the arrow passes through the animal, it has to have cut on the way through, correct? If a "dull" broadhead doesn't cut on the way through a pass through shot, then what is is doing, moving things out of the way saying, "ok please move out of the way lungs, please move out of the way heart....ok thank you now I will exit out of the skin...thanks"?

I am not advocating dull blades, but isn't a pass through, a pass through?
Thoughts?

This is what I have edited to my original post...below:

I think maybe I did not explain myself better in my first post....this is what I wrote, " "unless the blades are really really sharp, there won't be much of a blood trail on pass through"."

I was really just comparing very very sharp broadheads as compared to those "less" sharp. "less" sharp meaning those that are still sharp, just not deadly sharp like some of you like to have them. By saying "dull" I meant comparitvely to the extremely sharp heads. BELIEVE methat is what I meant :)

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Dull blades will tear, and a scalpel sharp blade will cut. There is a difference.

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Actually the more jagged the cut the more bleeding. Thats why the magnus serrated blades are so awesome. Just like cutting your hand with a dull blade it tears skin and not slices.

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Agree. A dull blade or sharp blade, its going to slice something on its way throu. Now my question is. Does a dull blade cut more like a dull shaving razor? man dull shaving blades cut the dickens.

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No, Your exactly right, think about all of the veins and arterys running through a deers vital, a sharp blade will severe(sp) the aterys/veins where as a dull one would push, stretch, bruise them. Like a rubber band, push a sharp one accross them, then push a dull one.

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either way blood will flow.

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I know walking through some thick thorns tonight that they sure "tore" my arm and made me bleed like heck.

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Dull blades will push there way through thus not getting as good of penetration, sharp blades will not push, they will cut and go much deeper. This Is the exact reason why I shoot a cut on contact head Brett. I want my sharp blades cutting there way through, not pushing there way through like a dull head or a bullet/chisel point head will do.

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That is a good explanation. Thats why I like this site. not only do you get called an idiot but at least you get a reach around with an explantion of why your an idiot.

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Lets use another analogy....you shoot your arrow through a sponge with a dull blade, and then shoot your arrow through a sponge with a sharp blade.....both shots pass through and take out exactly the same amount of surface area. Which sponge would bleed more if it contained blood?

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the one with the dull blades. because it tears the flesh.

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That's funny!:D True, true indeed!

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Good example also. an I say it again tear cut slice whatever blood will flow. Just a matter of how much.

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So dull blades, if shot with enough force for a pass through create more blood because they not only cut through the object but also tore the object?

Again, I am not advocating dull blades, because I like to shoot "sharp" broadheads. I am just not getting some of the logic behind the razor sharp broadhead and improved blood trails as compared to "dull" broadheads.

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Actually I have always heard and believe different! The more of a serrated edge will allow the veins, arteries to clot up quicker. A sharp razor will make a smooth cut that will not clot up as fast!
I understand the concept and the way I think of it is, have you ever cut yourself with a sharp razor while shaving? The damn thing dont wanna stop bleeding!!!

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And jjlem, I hope you are not directing this to me:

"That is a good explanation. Thats why I like this site. not only do you get called an idiot but at least you get a reach around with an explantion of why your an idiot."

I AM exploring a concept so that I can benefit from others knowledge.

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Yes thats true. But theres a reason why the sharper then knife its easier for the blood to clot. Becuase the skin isnt jagged. And a slice is just a slice the skin is still in close proximity with the other skin easier for the platelettes to group up.

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I call BS.

I hope like hell people are not reusing blades without sharpening or replacing. I truly do.

vs, your way off and this thread is really teaching misinformation if anyone thinks dull blades are fine. [:-] [&:]

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Thinking back to ag-science when we cut the nuts off piggletts we did cut them jagged and the teacher's dad who was a vet said we did it that way for it clotted faster for the blood had flesh to basically hold it up and block the flow of more blood. So here is the 1 billionth time I call my self an idiot and it isn't even a reach around its a reach down......LOL

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Rob--I am not way off. I have NEVER re-used a head I have shot at an animal. I have NEVER used a dull blade. I am exploring a concept because I keep hearing people say sharp blades leave larger blood trails, and I for one don't believe it. I DO BELIEVE that sharper blades are better because they penetrate better. And Rob, give me a break, everyone knows what I am talking about. I only said I don't advocate dull blades 77 times in the post.

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In my opinion, the sharpness of your broadhead is more important than the type/brand and maybe even the size of a broadhead. Broadheads are meant to cut and I want to be sure mine are going to do just that. That's why I want a sturdy sharp blade. My Magnus Stingers fit the bill and so do the Slick Trick Mags I got this week.

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Hmm whatever you think admin. Im sure not matter what type of tip you shoot and if its sharpened or not. But I think if your bows pushing enough FPS and kinetic energy no matter if they are sharp or not. Its still gonna cause massive bleeding.

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How dull are we talking? If dull enough, you could very well get a pass through but not of the diameter your bh is, because of such a blunt force your making the initial hole, and then stretching the rest of the blade through, thus leaving a smaller hole, Plus all of the internal matter your "pushing" through rather than cutting.

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Im not saying butter knife dullness but i mean even after shooting a deer with one you can use it again.

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I am not calling anyone an idiot for of all people I have as much if not more then anyone to learn about deer and bow hunting. I apologise if I offended you in anyway. I was just stating that this site is awesome in the factthat the users will teach you where you are lacking informationand help you anyway they can.

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I 100% disagree with you. A dull head no matter how fast it's traveling can push arteries and other blood vessels out of the way resulting in a very poor blood trail and worst case scenerio, a puncture wound. The sharper the head, the more cutting it's going to do.

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No problem JJ--gotcha.

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Not without some honing(sp) I hope? Usea arm hair shaving blade every time, if it dont cut the hair on your arm, dont use it... JMO and for the record.... the jagged edge thing?... what does a jagged edge do? it tears, leaving "flaps" of skin to bond and clot.

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Your kidding right? With that logic why not shoot a completely dull blade. Hell for that matter why should the broadhead makers even bother sharpening blades at all.You absolutely need as sharp a blade as you can possibly get if you want a quick kill and a fast recovery of the animal...END OF STORY!!!

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Also, I am not saying use dull blades at all. When I head out I won't even use the BH's I used to practice with, brand new MX3's will be on the end of my arrows.

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vs, no break given, this thread is advocating dull broadheads by many, it's BS. You honestly think youth or beginners (everyone) knows what your talking about. I don't think so. I know you said you don't advocate it, but your playing devils advocate and some are actually making a case for dull blades. Ridiculous.

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Your really out of touch. Ive been shooting bow for years. I USE NEW BLADES EVERY TIME. But for the sake of arguement you can really use a duller blade with not razor sharp qualities but you think should really read the post its about pass through not about recovery.

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That is very poor practices.

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Thanks BuckMaster for putting that into perspective!!

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Before this one gets the chains and shackles.... nissan- he mentioned from the beginning... "Blood Trail" if thats not recovery I dont know what is....

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So what kind of blood trails would these heads leave if they made a pass through?

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If you were to accidently cut a finger with one which will do more damage? A sharp blade or a dull blade. I have a feeling I'd fair better with the dull blade than the sharp.

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I just posted I ALWAYS USE NEW BLADES. But for the sake of the post you in theory can get passthrough

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Virginiashadow... in all the discussion here I forgot to ask did you get out in the woods today and if so any luck?

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I'm out of touch? LMAO, I'm into my 30 season and I'm out of touch.

And for the sake of argument, BS! That may be the very reason why a study on a NY island showed does with broadhead scars on their LUNGS. There is absolutely zero reasons to reuse a broadhead that is not resharpened or the blades replaced.