What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Is the area/woods you hunt capable of producing P&Y and B&C bucks?

2. Do you believe you have either of them around?

3. If you believe you do not, what's your reasoning?

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Yes

2. Maybe a couple

3. Everybody shoots the first one they see.[:@]

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

Their here, their nocturnal & very good at what they do best...... Survive!

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My woods are capable of produceing P&Y caliber deer, although holding out for one isnt a realistic goal unless you want to eat tag soup often. I saw a 140 last year, a friend shot one around 140 and another in the low 120's, but last year was a very good year. My buddy who got the 120 has hunted for 17 years and that is his best ever.
An average "good" deer in our neck of the woods is around 100-110. I would be very hard pressed to pass up a 110, although i know there are better. Hopefully this i can seal the deal if it happens again.

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What is my woods capable of? How 'bout driving me nuts! Other than that the answers to your first two questions is: YES
Are they cooperative? NO
Does it torque me off? YES
:)

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We kill a few P&Y bucks every year off of our lease.

There have been two B&C deer taken off of the same ground in the last six years.

We try to stick to a basic "let them go so they can grow" management plan. Having said that, we don't tell anyone who is there to kill their first deer that they have to let small bucks walk. We tell them to shoot the first one that looks good to them and after that it needs to be P&Y or better.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

Where we hunt in western Virginia is certainly capable of producing B&C and P&Y bucks. At our hunt club there are 4 people who hunt 3 of whom are ages 19-22 and my father who is 48. When we were younger and my father and grandfather were trying to turn us on to hunting, we shot pretty much any antlered animal and didn't really take many does. (Even took one that went about 140) Even then, however, we still would usually take a buck a year or so that would score 110 or so. The past 5-6 years, however, we have practiced selective harvest getting very strict over the past 2 years or so. Since then, we have seen several bucks that would score probably 130-135 and were only 3.5 years old. With our strict adherence to QDM principles, we can definitely produce B&C/P&Y bucks. While we may not have bucks running around that score 175, the 140-160 range is definitely a goal that is being achieved as we speak:)

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I honestly believe my area is capable of producing truly world class whitetails.

3- 200" typicals have been shot within 10 miles in the last 10 years.

I believe them to be around, and I believe that our group, as hunters and stewards can keep producing these type of results.

I am one hell of a lucky guy, but also do my share.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Is the area/woods you hunt capable of producing P&Y and B&C bucks?

Yes.


2. Do you believe you have either of them around?

Not this year, well maybe close to a P & Y


3. If you believe you do not, what's your reasoning?

Between my neighbor hunting buddy and I, weve set out cams in various places and both of us have the same deer on both of our cams. But we do have the capabilities of producing wall hanging buckson certain years. Give all the deer we have this year 1 more year, And I would bet I would be having a poaching problem;)

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Yes - 4 have been taken in the last 5 years over 130"
2. Yes - sightings of a couple this year already.

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Yes, I know our area has the potential to produce both albeit the B/C are few and far between anywhere. I have seen plenty of P/Y on hoof and on trail cam but not any B/C.

Yet a good friend of mine shot a 174" last year not 5 miles from me, so I know the potential exists.

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1. P&Y yes, few and far inbetween, even old deer....Booners, doubtfully, even at the right age

2. Maybe a P&Y passing through occasionally, but rarely ever sighted.

3. The motto around here seems to be 'if it's brown it's down' although more hunters are getting better about letting them walk. Even though we have crops and mast, the nutrition seems to be poor. I think the 3.5y/o I shot this year had potential to become a monster, but I doubt he would have made it if he ever left the sanctuary of the cutover on our property. 3.5y/os are rare here with 4.5y/o even rarer...much less a 5.5y/o. All of the larger deer I have ever saw around here have been at night. I did see one I would beleive to go 150's one night close...but it was on power company land, with several thousand acres of posted, no-hunting land.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

yes, there may be a few. For 5 years we have been hunting there we have set a 8 point and mature limit on all bucks. before that the area was not hunted. too bad last night i missed a big ten pointer at ten yards. I feel horrible right now, I've waited so long and i blew it...at least it was soo bad it was a clean miss. shot right over him.

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The county I hunt has produced 5 of the top 100 typical rifle kill bucks in the state, including the #1 which went 189". It obviously has the potential to produce a B&C buck but I honestly don't think there are any booners running around there right now. I'm sure there are acouple P&Y bucks though. I've seen and had encounters with a handful of bucks that would go P&Y over the years. It's not the kind of place you are going to kill oneevery year though.

To be honest, if you could averagea 100" deer every year with a bow in that part of the country you would probably be in the top 1% of the hunters in terms of success on a "good" buck for the area.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. YES

2. NO

3. I dont know.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

My area holds Pope and Young bucks and possibly even Boone and Crockett caliber deer. The major problems i have are pressure and where the bucks are bedding. The land around me is all private, and i have permission to hunt a good chuck of this (over 1,000 acres) andmy familypersonally owns100 that only me and my brother hunt. During bow season the pressure is not too bad but during gun it is ridiculous.

But the biggest issue is where the deer are bedding. I KNOW that their are 150+ inch bucks in the area, but they are never seen during the day. Last year i took a good video of a 140+ after dark in a field i hunted over 30 times, but never saw anything bigger then a 6 point in during the day. Anywasy now im just rambling......;)


Heres a taste of my area,

Top end bucks that are never seen:









http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd0cRt2BPeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03tsKu-ONtg

Middle of the road bucks that i would take in a heartbeat and have glimpsed from time to time while hunting:












http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7N36pwXyg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxl3OKDo85Q


And bucks that i see on a regular basis and have harvested:








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0it9F7qOZ3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVFJ2ukhCxU




Sorry for the lengthy post but i had youtube and photobucket handy at the moment. I guess my area would be normal for Ohio, maybe not quite up to par with Iowa or Kansas.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Yes
2. Yes. Had a 209" taken off our property in 2006 (had a chance at him in bow season, but couldn't get him to stop, he was chasing a doe)and have seen numerous 130+ since

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X2. We've got a lot of trigger happy guys around our area during gun season.

I saw a P&Y buck in our woods last season looking for some tail, and he was part of a group of 3 or so that frequent a swail accross from our north edge that nobody hunts, and the owners will not allow anyone to hunt. Our area has a great mixture of cash crops, minerals and water. They're out there, just not always in range.

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All three of this bucks where with in 1/2 mile of each other, I've also seen 4 that will go over 170typ. and found a 5 point shed that scored 86, over 7 in. at the base.Thats in the past 7 years.

The funny thing is, most hunters around here will tell you thatthey dont exist,they also shoot the first thing that walksup with bone on its head.[8D]

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Is the area/woods you hunt capable of producing P&Y and B&C bucks? Yes

2. Do you believe you have either of them around? I know I have P&Y bucks around, not near as many as there should be though. As for B&C bucks I haven't seen one hunting In about 10 years. They are here, just not to many.

The reason I believe we are lacking both P&Y and B&C bucks Is that the gun season Is In full bore during the prime of the rut here In Minnesota. It makes It tough then to manage a woods but I still stick to my ways of managing my woods and let the younger, smaller bucks walk. That will never change.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Yes

2. Yes ..... I wish I had more time and access to the other areas ....

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

Damn Caleb, you do have some nice bucks around there!

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. yes

2. i believe there are few P&Y running around.

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The area I hunted in the past had a few that would go P&Y but no booners.

The lease I'm in on this year is in the county that produced two 190 class bucks, both actually broke the old state record. It's very thick, rugged land and the bucks are hard to get to but they are there.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1 -yes
2- probably not
3- too much hunting pressure

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

yes I do have b&c bucks in my woods. I have severl P&Y I have seen them while huntint and killed them I also have trail cam pics

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

Yes but im still piecing together the puzzle. Im not where i would want to be yet but in a few years i should be ok.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1- Absolutely not

2- Absolutely not

3- Hunters around here are idiots. During gun season it's "pray an spray" all day, I don't go out the first few days. They shoot anything and everything that walks by. No management at all, population is very low. Add coyotes to the mix and it sucks. Also, any bucks with good genes have been taken, so they cant spread their seed. And, no bucks are given the chance to grow up an mature, they are all taken at 1 1/2 to 2 1/2.

SUUUUUUCKS!!!

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Yes to both

2. A few P&Y around each season, a booner maybe once every 5 years or longer.

3. Too much hunting pressure keeps the booners at bay. We have good genetics, but the odds of a pre-programmed booner living long enough to reach that levelare pretty small.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Yes

2. A few atleast. Here is some photo evidence;)

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

well in the last 2 years the guy on the prop next to mine took a 208" non typ and a 175" typ i have seen many 130-160 on my prop so i would say yes

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

They're probably here.....and they'r ehunted here all season....and then some. They'r ealso hunted at night, here.

Are they here (P&Y caliber animals)? Yeah. Are they a distinct possibility for those hunting them, legally? I know of ONE who's taken a P&Y caliber deer in my parts...who hunts, legally. I know of a couple more that were shot by guys who took too many bucks, that year.

If a man doesn't follow the buck limit rule.....what other rule might he be willing to break?

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

We have a few P&Y bucks around, but no B&C at all. This is simply because we lack the food/crops, age, and genetics. The things you must have to produce BIG bucks.[:@]

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

I have some factors that go against me in my effort to kill large bucks.....no crop fields, average genetics, and smaller bucks are killed therefore not allowing them to grow to their potential. I have one thing working on my side.....large tracts of woods where bucks can hide and grow.....now here is the hard part, finding that needle in a haystack.....it can be done, but it is very difficult.

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1. absolutely
2. there are at least 2 easy P&Y qualifiers on our farms
3. They could reach B&C due to nutrition and genetics, but they just don't get the age on them due to surrounding hunting pressure. 3.5 is fairly rare and older is our "white buffalo".

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

My area is very capable of producing P&Y and sometimes B&C. I have shot and seen many good P&Y bucks. I have also had some really close calls with B&C bucksbut havent closed the deal just yet. The problems that persist in my area would be hunting access along with Cars!! Cars kill good bucks every year, it sucks!!! Granted some areas I hunt to many people blast the first thing they see, but more and more people are catching on to management techniques, We also have thick woods where bucks can hide there entire life with out being seen.

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My woods is 100% capable of producing world class animals. Ive never seen a b&c buck but have seen photos of guys, that I know very well, with some real smashers. I have seen quite a few p&y's floatin around, 2 so far this year that are on my hit list. We would get more monsters but the hunter density is way to high and there is zero management going on. If AR's ever came or even an earn a buck, i think you would see my part of NY putting up some very impressive numbers.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Capable of producing P&Y and B&C class bucks?

Absolutely, we have food, and good genes around here.

2. Are there any around?

P&Y yes. B&C maybe, but if they are I have not spied one.

3. Why not?

If there are B&C bucks they are ultra-reclusive and I just haven't figured out how to find them yet, let alone hunt them.

RE: What's your area/woods capable of?
 

1. Yes

2. 2 that i have seen.

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We've got P&Y caliber bucks on our property and we've harvested a few of them over the last few years (None with a bow). We've taken a couple in the mid to low 140's and one around 135". I've seen a few more that we haven't been able to close the deal on. As for B&C, that's another story. I think the potential is there for one to perhaps grow that big, get that old, etc. but the odds are slim. I was watching Bass Pro Shops "King of Bucks" just this morning and they gave a statistic that only 1 in 36000 bucks will grow his antlers to 150". Now I don't know how they come up with that stat, but I'm sure that 170" is a much worse statistic. Just last year, I know of two different bucks that were shot within approx 15 miles of my property that grossed over the B&C minimum, so there could be one roaming around my property.