RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

I've got the Predator Deception and i don't think you can go wrong with it , it does a great job of blending in almost anywhere .

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

Absolutely, Rory.

You've got to keep in mnd what your background is as a deer looks UP to you from ground level. It's mostly a very whitish, hazy blue, greyish mixture with whatever cover you happen to be in that breaks it up. That's the reason that photo-realistic patterns with intricate details turn into a blob so quickly when you move them out past arm's length and you view them out away from the tree trunk.

To work well in ANY season, but especially late season, a pattern has to have a preponderance of very light, open patterns broken up with dark contrasting blotches. I've said itbefore, but a light blob's a blob just the same as a dark blob; you need both for the pattern to effectively break up the human outline. The key is for the areas of contrasting colors to be large enough so they don't "melt together" at a distance of more than 20 feet.

Take a look at this picture... I know the person who took it, and have conversed with him many times about it. It's NOT doctored in any shape, and was taken with a simple 35 mm camera; I think you'll see it proves my point very well:



There's simply no other pattern that can obliterate the human outline that well amidst the lack of cover provided in that photo, and that's as late-season as it gets. You HAVE to have the open, geometric chunks mixed in to erase the human outline, and they have to be very light colored -- because that's what your background is.

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

I'd go w/ Deception or fall brown.

I've found fall grey is only good in late season w/ no leaves, and works great in the snow. Otherwise it has to much white for early season... The deer notice that color!

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

Fall Gray works great ANYTIME of year. One of the best patterns ever made. It is not too light for early season IMO. Here is why. Go into the woods and look-up. What do you see, even with a full canopy? Well, lot's of leaves and some sky. When you are wearing Fall Gray in the early season, the leaves of the canopy are blocking you as much as the trees, sky, etc... You don't glow, considering that deer only see shades anyway - you just look like "nothing" up in the trees. I wear it year-around, that's what makes the pattern the BEST, and all the others (except for Intrusion Treeline) just very well advertised and marketed blob camo that doesn't break any outline.

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

I beg to differ, and this only comes from experience. You have to think about the terrain. I was wearing fall grey once, it was mid fall so leaves had turned but not started to fall en mass. I had a young doe about 75 yrds out, due to the terrian we were more at eye level, than looking up. she definately was alarmed by the white in the pattern.

That said I still like the pattern, you just have to consider the circumstances and I wouldnt use it right now... its still green. but I'll be wearing deception tonight.

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

I respectfully disagree; deer can pick you off for a number of reasons, Ed... and to saythat one deer picking you off in one instancefrom 75 yards out due to the light-colored blotches in the pattern is a stretch to me. If that was the case, deer wouldn't be able to leave their beds because their whole world is made up of light-colored blotches liike that -- especially when looking above ground level.

We have at our disposal a plethora of vision studies with the best scientific guesses of how a whitetail can see, and none of them point to white as the one color they can see. Quite the opposite is usually true, as most authorities believe they live in a world of shades, and one that a mixture of light, open and contrastingblocks would virtually disappear in -- from a visual perspective. Add in movement, scent or any number of things and the game changes.

Also, to reiterate a point I've made on several occasions, and one Todd obviously concurs with as well... Let's think about this for a moment: if Fall Gray is universally accepted and deemed as one of the best late-season patterns ever created -- if not THE best -- it would only stand to reason that it would be JUST as effective if partially hidden behind a canopy of leaves. Take a great camo pattern, add in big clumps of leaves between the wearer and the target, and it only becomes HARDER to see -- not easier.

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

Dude, we have deer look up at us all the time! Doesn't mean they know what you are, and will blow and ruin a hunt. When 4-1/2 year old bucks or older look up at me and my cameraman - know something isn't right - and go back to business; I consider that a success!

I used to huntaround alot of pine trees onpublic landback in Michigan. One of the first times I went hunting up there wearing Predator;like 9 or 10 years agao, I had a small buck nail me against the dark pines cause I was in the open, not a branch in the tree, against abig cedar that was DARK. He knew something wasn't right, and boogied.

The difference between wearing Predator and any other camo is that you may spook adeer or two a year compared to a few dozen. That's the way I look at it anyway. I hunt everyday in a TON of different properties / terrain. If I had to chose one pattern, it would be fall gray. That's what this guy is asking, what one pattern is the best?

I wear spring green for the first couple weeks usually - only becauseI have it in unlined wolfskin. It works great for the summer and early-early season. After that - the other 95% of my hunting season,it's fall gray for me baby!

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

Thanks guys, I'm taking a long, hardlook at the fall grey now. I went to the Predator website, and didn't see a fall brown though. Do they make it anymore?

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

They dont make any fall brown anymore.

I was lucky enough to get a pair of coveralls for my wife in their bargin cave last year.

She just layers up under them, and can use the pattern for anything we hunt!

RE: Predator Camo- which pattern to buy?
 

The only place you can still purchase Fall Brown at is www.graywolfwoolens.com

GWW's Fall Gray, however, is a good in-between as far as the "typical" Fall Gray and Fall Brown. Its base coloration isn't nearly as "whitish" as it prints on Predator Camo's cotton material.