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acriscenti 09-07-2008 02:54 PM

PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 
I recommended the Mean V suppressor to a friend of mine and he recently had a problem with it.
He had it on a Matthews Q2 right around 60lbs. The suppressor broke right at the threads leaving the threaded part in the bow. The way it broke was weird, it broke right after the bow was shot.Didn't bend, it just fell off his bow.I have mine on my Black Ice and have never had a problem, but I also don't want the threads to get stuck in my bow. It is a painto remove...Has anyone heard of this?I guess he called about it but they wanted him to send the broken shaft in. I'm starting to do some research on it and I'm seeing posts about breakage with these. Anybody else having problems?

Ben / PA 09-07-2008 03:00 PM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 
No problems here, I am sure it will be taken care of. I don't know if the all caps "problem"thread was necessary. I despise these threads no matter the subject or product, if ya don't get taken care of, then post the problem. No product out there is 100 percent,customer service can be and that is where the value in a product is.

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Rob/PA Bowyer 09-07-2008 03:35 PM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 

ORIGINAL: DropTine249

Threads are NEVER stuck in anything. Simple tap set will remedy that situation, quickly.

Your friend likely had the suppressor fastner way over tightened.

Dans' products are 1st class, he gives it 150%. However, sometimes, a metal can fail- but I would venture to guess that the problem was over tightening of the lock bolt.

There is an obvious WARINING print with the suppressor.

Contact Dan and I'm sure he will take care of you and I hope that this is an isolated incident.
Exactly,

And I agree with Ben, the caps in the title, Really? It's not a problem, it's just a issue.

TEmbry 09-07-2008 03:39 PM

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Did he drop the bow at any point?

I dropped my last bow and hit the stabilizer about 4 years ago.....everything looked perfect until the next shot and the stab simply fell off at the threads....apparently the impact caused a hairline crack I couldnt see. The threaded bolt should be easy to remove from the bow....whether your fault or his, Im betting Dan will work something out with you one way or another. Great guy.

GMMAT 09-07-2008 03:45 PM

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I don't know if the all caps "problem"thread was necessary.

And I agree with Ben, the caps in the title, Really?
BLASPHEMY!:D:D



twildasin 09-07-2008 03:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I don't know if the all caps "problem"thread was necessary.

And I agree with Ben, the caps in the title, Really?
BLASPHEMY!:D:D


RIGHT ON PARTNER!!;)

TexasBowHunter 09-07-2008 04:16 PM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 
I haven't had any issues with mine and have spoke with Dan several times on the phone and he always does what he says he will.... Tap the thing out like droptine said and send it to Dan and it will all be resolved, and NO you don't need to worry about yours!!!!

stikbow26 09-07-2008 05:11 PM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 
I have i bet close to a1000 shots with mine on my 101st and no problems!!Walt

thehairlessone! 09-07-2008 05:46 PM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 
i never had any trouble with mine. I am sure dan will take care of him if you have your buddy give him a call

rick


GR8atta2d 09-07-2008 06:07 PM

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However, sometimes, a metal can fail
Well metal just doesn't fail. In this case I'm assuming it's probably T6 6061 Aluminum,if it's 6005 thats another issue and the wrong alloy for this application (it also could be a 7000 series but due to cost I'm betting not). If it broke there can be a couple reasons for this. The main one being the fact that it didn't make properties. In the case of 6061 T6 it should have an ultimate strength of 38000 PSI and a yield strength of 35000 PSI with 10% elongation. the Brinell hardness is 95 minimum. It has a shear strength of 35000 PSI. Consequently metal does not just fail out of the blue, no Bow is putting out that force.

AsI said the reasons fornot making propertiescan be many. I hope anyone using Aluminum in such an application demands,Tensile tests on every lot of material they recieve soif failure does occur they have certification to prove what theygot what was ordered.

Shimmeringleaves 09-07-2008 06:24 PM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 
I've had no problems with my MeanV string suppressor at all. I think it is right and only fair to give him the opportunity to correct the issue. Overtightening could be a problem. As stated earlier, the directions put this warning with the product. Happy customer here and so is my buddy who bought one about a month ago. His comments are nothing short of OUTSTANDING PRODUCT!!!

cjohnson664 09-07-2008 06:56 PM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d


However, sometimes, a metal can fail
Well metal just doesn't fail. In this case I'm assuming it's probably T6 6061 Aluminum,if it's 6005 thats another issue and the wrong alloy for this application (it also could be a 7000 series but due to cost I'm betting not). If it broke there can be a couple reasons for this. The main one being the fact that it didn't make properties. In the case of 6061 T6 it should have an ultimate strength of 38000 PSI and a yield strength of 35000 PSI with 10% elongation. the Brinell hardness is 95 minimum. It has a shear strength of 35000 PSI. Consequently metal does not just fail out of the blue, no Bow is putting out that force.

AsI said the reasons fornot making propertiescan be many. I hope anyone using Aluminum in such an application demands,Tensile tests on every lot of material they recieve soif failure does occur they have certification to prove what theygot what was ordered.
Thank you Bill Nye the science guy[8D]
Have my Meanv and love it,no problems.

nodog 09-08-2008 04:08 AM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d


However, sometimes, a metal can fail
Well metal just doesn't fail. In this case I'm assuming it's probably T6 6061 Aluminum,if it's 6005 thats another issue and the wrong alloy for this application (it also could be a 7000 series but due to cost I'm betting not). If it broke there can be a couple reasons for this. The main one being the fact that it didn't make properties. In the case of 6061 T6 it should have an ultimate strength of 38000 PSI and a yield strength of 35000 PSI with 10% elongation. the Brinell hardness is 95 minimum. It has a shear strength of 35000 PSI. Consequently metal does not just fail out of the blue, no Bow is putting out that force.

AsI said the reasons fornot making propertiescan be many. I hope anyone using Aluminum in such an application demands,Tensile tests on every lot of material they recieve soif failure does occur they have certification to prove what theygot what was ordered.
Could also have been in the machining process of the threads in which case there could be many more failures to come unless they're all done individually.

Thanks for the info, good stuff.

bowdaddy1964 09-08-2008 04:22 AM

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The mounting bolt is NOT ALUMINUM, NOT NOT NOT ALUMINUM, read the post before you hang the man's prouducts......now I feel all BETTER whew

nodog 09-08-2008 05:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: bowdaddy1964

The mounting bolt is NOT ALUMINUM, NOT NOT NOT ALUMINUM, read the post before you hang the man's prouducts......now I feel all BETTER whew
And it broke? A 3/8's steel bolt broke and you feel good? Who's hanging him? I don't see anyone hanging him. I see people who are inadvertantly helping to make it a big deal.

I've ripped the heads off bolts, be tough to torqe a bolt on a bow that much.

Metal failure in todays world is all to common being that the cost of the stuff is through the roof. Everybody is trying to cut cost. MeanV might not be but the place he gets the stuff most likely is.



bowdaddy1964 09-09-2008 12:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: nodog


ORIGINAL: bowdaddy1964

The mounting bolt is NOT ALUMINUM, NOT NOT NOT ALUMINUM, read the post before you hang the man's prouducts......now I feel all BETTER whew
And it broke? A 3/8's steel bolt broke and you feel good? Who's hanging him? I don't see anyone hanging him. I see people who are inadvertantly helping to make it a big deal.

I've ripped the heads off bolts, be tough to torqe a bolt on a bow that much.

Metal failure in todays world is all to common being that the cost of the stuff is through the roof. Everybody is trying to cut cost. MeanV might not be but the place he gets the stuff most likely is.






I was refering to the aluminum specs. wich had no bearing on the broken steel bolt, and the fact that some times people dont read a post for facts and details before running their mouths...like, hum, lets see,.......

Rickmur 09-09-2008 01:35 AM

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You owe it to Dan to edit this thread or ask a mod to delete it all togetherand go about the issue the right way.

wis_bow_huntr 09-09-2008 05:10 AM

RE: PROBLEM WITH MEAN V STRING SUPPRESSOR
 
I dont use one but have heard nothing but good things. These types of things shouldnt simply just break, being that i work around and on farm machinery every day, im going to say he had it in too tight, just tap it and turn it out. if all else fails, get yourself a dremmel and a small cutting disc and cut a small line into the end of the rod and use a screw driver to turn it out. If you cant turn it by hand then it was way too tight.


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