For all you baiters.....
09-05-2008, 08:07 AM
#31
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RE: For all you baiters.....
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I read an interesting article in 'NC Sportsman' magazinea week or so ago. The author is a local Gander Mtn. archery dept. manager and an accomplished bowhunter.
Here's his take on baiting....
1. he only baits an area a few days before he plans to hunt it. His contention is that the bucks will find the bait before the does will. He puts a trail cam on the area when he spreads his bait....and years of experience have shown this to be true.
2. He only baits 15-20#'s at a time. This creates competition.
3. When he begins to get too many does on the trail cam.....he switches spots. he says the does will run the bucks out of the area....once they find it and begin frequenting the site. When they show up.....he moves.
His success is hard to argue against. Though I don't bait....I find his methods intriguing.....and thought some of you baiters might think so, too.
What are your opinions of his methods/approaches to baiting?
I read an interesting article in 'NC Sportsman' magazinea week or so ago. The author is a local Gander Mtn. archery dept. manager and an accomplished bowhunter.
Here's his take on baiting....
1. he only baits an area a few days before he plans to hunt it. His contention is that the bucks will find the bait before the does will. He puts a trail cam on the area when he spreads his bait....and years of experience have shown this to be true.
2. He only baits 15-20#'s at a time. This creates competition.
3. When he begins to get too many does on the trail cam.....he switches spots. he says the does will run the bucks out of the area....once they find it and begin frequenting the site. When they show up.....he moves.
His success is hard to argue against. Though I don't bait....I find his methods intriguing.....and thought some of you baiters might think so, too.
What are your opinions of his methods/approaches to baiting?
09-05-2008, 08:12 AM
#32
Dominant Buck
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RE: For all you baiters.....
How does he know for sure that the does run off the bucks?
Sound to me like you have a pretty healthy buck:doe ratio. You have to remember where the author is hunting. Each year....we kill more bucks in our state than does.....even with unlimited (virtually) doe tags available to our hunters.
09-05-2008, 08:20 AM
#33
Boone & Crockett
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RE: For all you baiters.....
Good thread, interesting as well.
One thing however, I'll say I'm not surprised by the article. I don't know it all but I've seen does run bucks off fields as well.
Particularly dominant does.
One thing however, I'll say I'm not surprised by the article. I don't know it all but I've seen does run bucks off fields as well.
Particularly dominant does.
09-05-2008, 08:27 AM
#34
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RE: For all you baiters.....
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I think this is pretty well proven in whitetail circles.....bait or no bait. Competition for food will see this occur. Does put up with bucks for a very short period of time each year.
Sound to me like you have a pretty healthy buck:doe ratio. You have to remember where the author is hunting. Each year....we kill more bucks in our state than does.....even with unlimited (virtually) doe tags available to our hunters.
How does he know for sure that the does run off the bucks?
Sound to me like you have a pretty healthy buck:doe ratio. You have to remember where the author is hunting. Each year....we kill more bucks in our state than does.....even with unlimited (virtually) doe tags available to our hunters.
.the guy that owns it rarely hunts and doesn't care about doe numbers...doe tags in WV will run you $20 per tag. I would go broke fast. Nothing is really proven when it comes to a wild animal...that is a belief in certain hunting circles...The article gives his bais thoughts of his hunting experience..it may be difficult to get his results repeatable all over the country..just think if you did the same things you might come up with better or worse results...
09-05-2008, 08:42 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: For all you baiters.....
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Good thread, interesting as well.
One thing however, I'll say I'm not surprised by the article. I don't know it all but I've seen does run bucks off fields as well.
Particularly dominant does.
Good thread, interesting as well.
One thing however, I'll say I'm not surprised by the article. I don't know it all but I've seen does run bucks off fields as well.
Particularly dominant does.
09-05-2008, 08:43 AM
#38
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RE: For all you baiters.....
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Conceded that different tactics work in different areas.
Note, though, that the article was published in 'NC Sportsman Magazine'.
Conceded that different tactics work in different areas.
Note, though, that the article was published in 'NC Sportsman Magazine'.
09-05-2008, 08:49 AM
#39
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RE: For all you baiters.....
If I baited I would!
What his article would tell me.....if I were baiting at one particuar site for an extended period of time.....is it would be "likely" that bucks would not come in WITH does to this site.....if they come into it, at all.
Again....we have to think about other food sources available. If they're readily avaialable elsewhere.....I can see this being true. Also note that the author said he only did this during the early season. At that time, here....we have abundant 'other" food sources available to deer. The "free meal" is only (according to what I read into the article) attractive if it's a spot they can go to without competition. When the competition arrives.......the bucks move on. Too many other sources they don't have to fight for....but might have to work for, more.
What his article would tell me.....if I were baiting at one particuar site for an extended period of time.....is it would be "likely" that bucks would not come in WITH does to this site.....if they come into it, at all.
Again....we have to think about other food sources available. If they're readily avaialable elsewhere.....I can see this being true. Also note that the author said he only did this during the early season. At that time, here....we have abundant 'other" food sources available to deer. The "free meal" is only (according to what I read into the article) attractive if it's a spot they can go to without competition. When the competition arrives.......the bucks move on. Too many other sources they don't have to fight for....but might have to work for, more.
