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GMMAT 09-02-2008 09:32 AM

You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
You're in your treestand......20' up. You have a deer at 15yds. There is ONE small limb in your way when you bend at the waist and settle your pin.

What can you do?

virginiashadow 09-02-2008 09:33 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
Don't stand up and shoot from sitting....that or just wait. :)

Matt / PA 09-02-2008 09:34 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
How far away is the limb?;)

GMMAT 09-02-2008 09:35 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
For the sake of this exercise......we'll assume it's 2/3 way out.....or 30'.

Rick James 09-02-2008 09:38 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
Wait.

StraightArrowNY 09-02-2008 09:39 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
I assume that you would be at full draw at the time you realize that the limb is in the way. Being at full draw w/ a deer that close makes sitting down difficult (unless you drew back sitting down). I would squata fewinches and let her fly.

GMMAT 09-02-2008 09:40 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
Where's the rub if the archer squats 3" (from the knees)but maintains the same angle?

robbcayman 09-02-2008 09:40 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
Personally, I would just move around and still take the shot. I practice from standing, at sharp angles etc... However, I wouldn't suggest the above to a novice.

TexasBowHunter 09-02-2008 09:44 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Where's the rub if the archer squats 3" (from the knees)but maintains the same angle?
There would be no rub!!!! If you keep the upper body form,squatting would not affect your shot!!!!

MGH_PA 09-02-2008 09:46 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Where's the rub if the archer squats 3" (from the knees)but maintains the same angle?
I suppose if you're comfortable and have practiced shooting from various positions. I know I've shot a few times practicing with me squatting somewhat, and I certainly can't hold nearly as long, but if you were confident in it, I suppose it would be fine. I would probably just wait it out.

Matt / PA 09-02-2008 09:47 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

For the sake of this exercise......we'll assume it's 2/3 way out.....or 30'.
If I have a bow sighted in for 20 yards top pin, the target is 15 yards. At 15 yds your POI will be a touch high depending upon speed of your arrow. 1" or so.(maybe more)

At 15 yards You can theoretically aim about 1" below your intended POI and if your pin is below the level of the limb you should A) miss the limb, and B) hit the target where you want.

If you aim at the limb thinking your gonna miss it chances are you're gonna hit it because 8-10 yards is generally the point where your arrow crosses the line of sight on it's way to it's highest point. In other words your bow is sighted in pretty close to that distance with your 20yd pin as well. aim AT it and chances are you are gonna hit it somewhere.
The brain doesn't remember such minute differences in POI from zero to 20 yards so it simply resorts to: put the pin on where you want to hit and shoot. Nevermind that the POI might be a touch higher than you wanted........it's a dead deer so you don't care or give it another thought.


That's all a little too much for the brain to calculate with an animal standing in front of you so what I would just do is crouch down slightly with my legs keepingthe rest of the aim on the same plane and simply shoot the deer.
It will be a cold day in hell before one little limb across a deer's vitals at 15 yards is gonna keep me from making the shot. LOL
Provided I can make a little manuever without getting detected.;)
I've already completely knelt down on the platform of my stand AND shooting off the right side to make a shot.




GMMAT 09-02-2008 09:49 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
It goes back to a previosuly asked question.

If the angle is maintained.....and there is NO torque added to the string.....how can the arrow NOT go where the pin is if the sight pin housing and the peep are aligned?

It's a fair question.


That's all a little too much for the brain to calculate with an animal standing in front of you so what I would just do is crouch down slightly with my legs keepingthe rest of the aim on the same plane and simply shoot the deer.
It will be a cold day in hell before one little limb across a deer's vitals at 15 yards is gonna keep me from making the shot. LOL
Thanks, Matt;)


rybohunter 09-02-2008 09:50 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 

Where's the rub if the archer squats 3" (from the knees)but maintains the same angle?
He'd miss in theory. If he dropped by squatting 3" he'd have to slightly raise the shot angle to keep the pin exactly where he wanted to hit. In real life that change happens automatically without concious thought.

I've squatted on occasion to make a shot on a deer.

GMMAT 09-02-2008 09:54 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
You're being a bit too technical....or I worded it a bit too loosely.

By "maintains the same angle"....I'm assuming the archer is maintaining the "proper" angle for the position he's in. He's simply made himself 3" shorter to avoid the impediment.



Pierce Pepin 09-02-2008 09:54 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
If it's just a small limb and that's the only thing in the way then I would say that a deer, unspooked, at 15 yards is going to present another shot at a reasonable distance. So just wait a second or two. One step is all it should take to get a clear shot.



Arrowmaster 09-02-2008 09:57 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
I'd wait till a clear shot presented itself...

rybohunter 09-02-2008 10:01 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
Aw and here I thought I was hitting the technicality. :D

So to answer the question...If one is coordinated enough to squat a few inches & maintain proper shooting form, I see no reason why they couldn't make the shot. More people would probably attempt it than can actually pullit off though.



JESUS loves archers 09-02-2008 10:02 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
I would have cut all the limbs but if that was the scinario I would wait rather than take an awkward shot.

bawanajim 09-02-2008 10:11 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
A good man would draw his bow horizontally exactly over the deers back then take one short step forward off of your stand. A the precise time just before your feet strike the ground take the shot while your from is still perfect,assuming your not torquing anything your shot will be true.;)

Rory/MO 09-02-2008 10:42 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
I'd wait.

wis_bow_huntr 09-02-2008 11:05 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
I was faced with this exact scenario back in 2006. I couldnt get a shot off sitting and I couldnt get a shot off standing, so what did I so got down on my stand on one knee and was able to pull the shot off.

TEmbry 09-02-2008 11:42 AM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
Id lean one way or the other or squat a bit and let her fly. Ive practiced this and nothing too much happens...Ive even purposely tried torquing my bow and shooting canted at sever angles and still my POI wasnt WAY off...meaning I still produced a "kill" shot. Has anyone else tried this shoot from 15-20 yards at weird angles and positions....some may be surprised at how little it adjusts your shot.

I think a hunter has gotten a little to technical when he is figuring angles to a branchand calculating the compensationwhile at full draw. Pull back, get to your comfortable stance that you are used to and touch the release....adding too many more steps can be detrimental IMO. If there is a branch in the way of your pin, adjust your stance or your shot placement to miss it.

Hick442 09-02-2008 07:43 PM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
I would move in the stand intil its not in the way anymore.

GR8atta2d 09-02-2008 07:46 PM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
[8D]I shoot the limb off with the first arrow and with the second arrow handy, drill him.

wahoohunter 09-02-2008 07:50 PM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
Patience is a virtue. Wait, wait, wait!:)

steelslinger 09-02-2008 07:59 PM

RE: You have a deer at 15 yds.....
 
I would have to be in the situation and make a judgement call, but if the limb was directly in the path of my sight pin, I would probably let him take another step.


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