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Personally, I don't think this will effect this year's hunt and baiting. I think they need to prove that the virus has escaped the deer farm before they do anything drastic. I think if they find anything in that September hunt, then there might start being some problems. I don't think they want to start blowing any whistles until it is proven in "Wild" Deer. You have to think how it will economically effect the businesses that sell feed, land values in that area, etc. I know I wouldn't want to buy hunting land in an area that they are saying has a disease that could effect the deer herd there for the next 20 years. Theres a lot more that is effected than just the hunting side when these outbreaks occur. I don't want to see it get to the Level that Wisconsin sees now (I believe the WDNR has blown it WAY out of proportion there) so I believe they need to do something drastic if it is discovered in that area, but not put the whole state on Alert if it is found.

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Banning Bait in Michigan would be one step in the right direction. One step of 1,438 that needs to happen if Michigan ever wishes to have a healthy heard of whitetail deer that actually might have the ability to reach maturity.

Doubling the price of tags, decreasing the number of bucks a single hunter can kill in one year to (1), minimum 4 point side to kill a buck, and changing the gun season from it's current dates to a single 5 day season in December would all be a-part of a solution to the current problem.

I don't see any of the above happening anytime soon. Someone in DNR needs to grow a set and stand up to the insurance driven management of the herd. The hunters themselves need to stand up and HAMMER anyone who shoots a small buck over a doe. If guys would only get that a doe eats just as well as a spike, fork horn, button buck, or any immature buck - the solution would be close at hand.

Hammer me if you will - but my plan would work and it would also reduce the number of "killers" in the woods - which is also needed if Michigan ever wishes to have any type of trophy hunting! Just the opinion of a bowhunter who grew up in Michigan and moved to Iowa because Icouldn't take hunting in Michigan a day longer!

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Did I write this?

RE: Michigan Boys Get ready to bend over
 

Not sure Silverflicker - maybe? I didn't see it if you did.

BTW - I should have mentioned how my topic relates to CWD - but it really doesn't. What CWD is going to be is an excuse for the DNR to kill more deer to appease the Insurance companies and polititions. I only wish the pay-off's would be exposed so the real environmentalists in Michigan (the hunters) could take back the power of the people!

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Well NRC set's policy[&:]if the above was true we would have had a herd reduction in the SLP, instead increase[&:]

We reduce doe permits to 3 per hunter, at request of the hunters:eek:

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You must have missed it, I onlytalk aboutthe Great DNR/ Insurance Deer Kill off in the TB areas about every other month on here.
No doubt it was a mistake to give control to the MDNR, but it looked like a solution to the problem at the time, only to become a problem its self.

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Here we go

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Aug. 26, 2008
Contact: Mary Dettloff 517-335-3014




DNR Acts to Implement CWD Surveillance and Response Plan
In the wake of Monday’s announcement that Chronic Wasting Disease
(CWD) has been confirmed in a three-year old privately-owned
white-tailed deer in Kent County, the Michigan Department of Natural
Resources is acting immediately to implement provisions of the state’s
Surveillance and Response Plan for CWD.

Among the provisions is an immediate ban on all baiting and feeding ofdeer and elk in the Lower Peninsula. DNR conservation officers will step
up surveillance and enforcement efforts on baiting. Baiting and feeding
unnaturally congregate deer into close contact, thus increasing the
transmission of contagious diseases such as CWD and bovine tuberculosis.
Bait and feed sites increase the likelihood that those areas will
become contaminated with the feces of infected animals, making them a
source of CWD infection for years to come.
Additionally, the provisions include a mandatory deer check for hunters
who take a deer within Tyrone, Solon, Nelson, Sparta, Algoma, Courtland,
Alpine, Plainfield, and Cannon townships, which contain the surveillance
area or "hot zone." All hunters who take a deer during any deer
hunting season this fall within the "hot zone" will be required to
visit a DNR deer check station so that their deer can be tested for CWD.
The DNR currently is seeking locations for additional deer check
stations in the area to make it more convenient for hunters. To prevent
unintentional spread of CWD, the only parts of deer harvested in the
surveillance zone that will be allowed to be transported out will be
boned meat, capes, and antlers cleaned of all soft tissues.
In addition, all transport of live wild deer, elk and moose will be
prohibited statewide, including transport for rehabilitation purposes.
Currently, there is no live animal test for CWD, and infected animals
often show no signs of illness for years in spite of being infectious
for other animals. Movement for rehabilitation purposes may speed
geographic spread of the disease.
The DNR will act immediately to test an additional 300 deer within the
"hot zone" in Kent County. The DNR will be cooperating with local
officials to collect fresh road-killed deer, and will be urging deer
hunters participating in the early antlerless season on private land in
September to comply with the mandatory deer check.
Landowners in Kent County "hot zone" who would like to obtain
disease control permits to cull deer from their property and assist with
the collection of deer for testing should contact the DNR’s Wildlife
Disease Lab at 517-336-5030. Permits will be available immediately upon
request. Landowners who do not want to cull deer, but want to
participate in the collection of deer for testing, can obtain assistance
from the DNR in culling deer.
DNR officials reminded citizens that, to date, there is no evidence
that CWD poses a risk to humans, nor has there been verified evidence
that the disease can be transmitted to humans.
CWD is a fatal neurological disease that affects deer, elk and moose.
Most cases of the disease have been in western states, but in the past
several years, it has spread to Midwestern and eastern states. Infected
animals display abnormal behaviors, loss of bodily functions and a
progressive weight loss. Current evidence suggests that the disease is
transmitted through infectious, self-multiplying proteins (prions).
Prions are normal cell proteins whose shape has been transformed,
causing CWD. The disease is transmitted by exposure to saliva of
infected animals. Susceptible animals can also acquire CWD by eating
feces from an infected animal, or soil contaminated by them. Once
contaminated, soil can remain a source of infection for many years,
making CWD a particularly difficult disease to manage.
More information about CWD is available on the State of Michigan’s
Emerging Diseases Web site at [/size]www.michigan.gov/chronicwastingdisease.
The DNR is committed to the conservation, protection, use and enjoyment
of the state’s natural resources for current and future generations.
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Put the carrots away boys, LOL

LANSING, Mich. (AP) - Baiting and feeding of deer and elk is banned in the Lower Peninsula as part of Michigan's plan to prevent the spread of chronic wasting disease.

The Department of Natural Resources detailed its response plan Tuesday, one day after confirming Michigan's first case of the fatal neurological disease in a deer at a private Kent County facility.

Hunters who kill deer in Kent County's Tyrone, Solon, Nelson, Sparta, Algoma, Courtland, Alpine, Plainfield and Cannon townships will be required to stop at a DNR checkpoint to test animals. Hunters in other areas will be encouraged to do so.

All transport of live wild deer, elk and moose is prohibited statewide.

There's no evidence the disease is present in free-ranging herds.

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I have always been for a ban on baiting, but not like this!

Are the farmers insured for anything like this?

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OUCH, it has officially hit the fan!

Question though, I want to use the C'mere deer three day harvest this year, is this considered baiting or feeding???