Out of tune bow?
 

I pulled out my bow today and shot it for a while. My groups were good from about 30 yards and in. I was using my field points, and I hadn't shot my broadheads this year, so I decided to pull one out and shoot it. I shot it, and it dropped low and left of the target. I didn't think I moved, so I shot an arrow with my field point in it again, and it was right on. I have the Muzzy 3 Blade 100 grain. Could this be happening because my bow is out of tune?

Thanks.

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Do your field tips and Muzzys usually shoot the same or do you to re-adjust your sights for your broadheads?

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Had the same problem with the muzzys so I went to the rage and could not be happier.

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Well I got a Whisker Biscuit put on my bow last season, and it seemed to not be shooting the same as my previous rest. The guy that put it on said he squared it up and put it on, so I figured it should be alright. I didn't end up shooting a deer last season with my bow, and I shot my Muzzys a couple times and they seemed to be shooting alright. I didn't shoot them a whole lot, but enough to get the feel for them. I took the broadhead off, and let my brother shoot the same broadhead on his arrow, and his shot straight. He has a brand new bow this year.

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ok
first spin test your heads and make sure they are true.
Then look up eastons tuning guide, go to the broadhead section and follow it. You should be able to get yout BH & FP's hitting same POI.

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I've only been shooting for a year, so I'm not sure how to spin test my broadheads. Whats the procedure?

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Sounds like you need to tune your bh, by adjusting your rest. Another option is shooting expandables.

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Spin an arrow w/ the BH on, on your finger, if you feel ANY noticeable wobble, swap BH and arrows, if you still notice wobble at all, I'd switch heads. For some reason some of the Muzzy heads over the last few years have had issues. I don't personally like a WB because I think ANY fletch contact is bad, but uniform fletch contact is better than a single fletch getting contact. If the arrows all spin fine, you can start making fine adjustments to your rest and or nockpoint to get those field tips and BH's together. If BH is hitting LOW, then either lower nockpoint or raise the rest, using the berger hole as a reference, can help a little. If the BH are consistently hitting LEFT, then move the rest ever so slightly to the right, and try again. THESE ARE FINE, FINE adjustments, 1/16 - 1/32" at a time, and re-shoot. You may also before you even start want to do a walk-back tune on your bow to make sure the rest is CLOSE to being centered. But if you're shooting FP's well out to 35-40yds, your rest should be close.

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I was actually thinking about bringing it into a local shop to get my poundage increased. I think that they could also help me tune my bow. I don't think that it has shot as well as it originally had before I purchased the whisker biscuit. I just like the WB, because of the easy arrow loading, and not being a very experienced bow hunter, I would get an occasional arrow fall off the rest. My group isn't perfect at 30 yards, but I can keep them pretty close. At 10-20, its pretty much dead on, but when I let the broad head fly, it seemed to not fly correctly. I think some little adjustments should correct that. What about a paper tune on my bow?

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My little brother also shot the broadheads on his arrows and they flew just like his field points. He also shoots a whisker biscuit, and his arrows flew fine, so I don't think that it's the broadhead.

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try walk back tuneing not a big fan of paper tuneing

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I WON'T paper tune ANYTHING, and there are a lot of guys who will agree. A simple walk-back tune, to center the rest, and then a BH tune, following the adjust the rest to change the impact of the BH to get it CLOSER to the FP until they are at the same point of impact seems to work for me. In all honesty, I don't even shoot at 10yds otherthan an occasional arrow when first setting a bow up, because the POI at 10 - 20 yds really shouldn't be very much different at all on a well tuned bow that shooting 250fps or so. If your groups fal apart at 30, and the aren't even on the target at 40, then the problem maybe both you and the bow. We were all there at one point, I'd never even attempted a shot past about 25yds until I'd been shooting a bow probably 4-5yrs, because back in the late 80's, when MOST of us really knew VERY little, we were afraid to lose arrows. Now I'll fling one at a target at 60-70yds, and be pretty confident that I'll be in the general vicinity of where I was aiming. PAPER-tuning is a good place to start if you don't have space to shoot to get things close, but I'd bet 90% of the guys that paper-tune end up moving their rest a slight bit one way or another to get their BH's to fly with their FP's. So in the absence of a place to shoot, it may be beneficial, but otherwise, I don't see much value to it, especially for a NON-competitive archer.

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So small adjustments to the rest may be the answer here? I think my point of impact is pretty close between 10 and 20, but the arrow did seem to drop a little more at 20 with the broadhead. At 30 with field points, I can keep them all in the insert in the deer target I shoot at. I can keep them relatively close at 40, but I am not 100% confident with that shot.

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If there's a rest problem, it will become more exaggerated at longer distances, barely noticeable at 10, a bit more at 20, and ridiculous at 40. It's also more difficult to shoot a nice TIGHT group at 40 than it is 20 for the obvious reason, but there can also be a trend noted. As a new archer you may also have some moderate form issues that may need resolved. Small things like making sure you're not "punching the release," to making sure you have good follow through, can make a BIG improvement. And even GOOD ARCHERS (I am not yet a GOOD ARCHER), have form flaws from time to time. Follow through seeming to be one of the biggest ones especially if you shoot when you are fatigued. Lots of variables play into archery, GREAT archers have a consistent form that seldom changes and they have a routine they go through EVERY shot. "Draw, hold, settle pin, breathe, squeeze trigger, remember to follow through while not CHOKING the bow..." Whatever it may be, the almost ALL have a routine they go through in their head from what I've gathered.