First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
08-24-2008, 11:24 AM
#91
Dominant Buck
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
Honestly Matt......Didn't know how the darned thing worked.....(just being honest). I wanted to give the LW a fair shake, too....and I AM. I really think I'm gonna like it. I'm not "down" on this stand, at all. Just giving real-life reports on what I'm encountering along the way.
I fully expect this to be my "go-to" stand in a lot of instances, this fall.
LOVE the rail on the summit....because I can sleep from 4:30AM to 6:00 and not worry about falling out of the tree.
Probably won't use the LW in the mornings, very often. We'll see.
I fully expect this to be my "go-to" stand in a lot of instances, this fall.
LOVE the rail on the summit....because I can sleep from 4:30AM to 6:00 and not worry about falling out of the tree.
Probably won't use the LW in the mornings, very often. We'll see.
08-24-2008, 11:39 AM
#92
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
I disagree with elitist. Nobody on this site except perhaps someone who might be affiliated with Lone Wolf is more postive about their stands than me. As much as I love their climbers, I have voiced my opinions before on things I would like to be changed on the design.
For example I wish the back brace was not straight from side to side. I'd rather it be angled or bent toward the front of the stand to allow the user the ability to take more of an angle while raising the platform. That would help greatly in taking longer advances up the tree when first starting climbing, which I sometimes find a little difficult because of that straight across back brace. Maybe Lone Wolf designed it that way though to keep users from taking long advances.......a safety hazard not recommended by any tree stand manufacturer.
Its been mentioned hand climbing with the sitnclimb top may be sort of against the reason for owning the sitnclimb top. I admit to sometimes not resting my butt on the bar and using my forearms and elbows. I do believe its easier hand climbing with the sitnclimb top than using the actual hand climbing top.
For example I wish the back brace was not straight from side to side. I'd rather it be angled or bent toward the front of the stand to allow the user the ability to take more of an angle while raising the platform. That would help greatly in taking longer advances up the tree when first starting climbing, which I sometimes find a little difficult because of that straight across back brace. Maybe Lone Wolf designed it that way though to keep users from taking long advances.......a safety hazard not recommended by any tree stand manufacturer.
Its been mentioned hand climbing with the sitnclimb top may be sort of against the reason for owning the sitnclimb top. I admit to sometimes not resting my butt on the bar and using my forearms and elbows. I do believe its easier hand climbing with the sitnclimb top than using the actual hand climbing top.
08-24-2008, 12:19 PM
#93
Spike
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
IT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER STAND IF THE BAR THAT YOU SIT ON COULD BE LOCKED INTO PLACE OUT FRONT. THAT WAY YOU COULD SIT AND CLIMB ON IT AND NOT HAVE YOUR KNEES FORCED INTO THE TREE. THEN WHEN YOU GOT TO THE TOP YOU COULD LEAVE IT UP AS A SAFETY RAIL OR SWING OUT OF YOUR WAY LIKE YOU CAN NOW. IT JUST SUCKS SITTING ON THAT BAR AND GETTING FORCED INTO THE TREE AND IT ALSO LIMITS HOW FAST YOU CAN ASCEND OR DESCEND THE TREE.
08-24-2008, 12:54 PM
#94
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
It's REAL SIMPLE, use the stand the way it's intended to be used, and you'll be fine. If not, get a hand climbing stand. As far as it taking 15-20mins to get to hunting height, that's your inexperience that I menioned before. I'mNOT making fun of you either, just stating a simple fact. The review you're giving everyone is based on a beginner's view of the stand. You need to become proficient with it's useBEFORE you try to give a review of it.
You mentionnot being able to "take a little nap" with this stand, for fear of falling. If you've got your safety harness on, that shouldn't be an issue.You would have to be blind, and or hardheaded not to realize that everyone is saying the same greatthings about this stand.
Jeff, I will say, you're the only person I know of who could turn a simple treestand thread into 10 pages of back and forth, wellwhatever.
You mentionnot being able to "take a little nap" with this stand, for fear of falling. If you've got your safety harness on, that shouldn't be an issue.You would have to be blind, and or hardheaded not to realize that everyone is saying the same greatthings about this stand.
Jeff, I will say, you're the only person I know of who could turn a simple treestand thread into 10 pages of back and forth, wellwhatever.
08-24-2008, 02:19 PM
#95
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
If it's used RIGHT.....it'll take 20 minutes to get to the desired height.
I'm giving a real-life review of what I think of this stand......not a one-sided "All hail LW" endorsement. If I use the sit and climb bar every time (of course I'll use it......some).....this stand becomes VERY "marginal". I'm trying to maximize the advantageous aspects.
Used RIGHT....the increments in which one could ascend would be very small.
I'm giving a real-life review of what I think of this stand......not a one-sided "All hail LW" endorsement. If I use the sit and climb bar every time (of course I'll use it......some).....this stand becomes VERY "marginal". I'm trying to maximize the advantageous aspects.
Used RIGHT....the increments in which one could ascend would be very small.
20 minutes? I could climb 60 feet in 20 minutes. I never said the stand is perfect for everyone and everyone will love it as much as I, but you are saying all this and you've had the stand what? 2 or 3 days? How many times have you climbed with it? Seriously? I wanna know. Did you really buy this stand or did you take the LW challenge where they will let you try out a stand for 2 days and return it and not pay anything? They do that you know.
This is no longer as review of a LW climber to me anymore, it is simply a guy that is misusing a product and preaching about this and that wrong with it. I'm not against Summit or any other treestands. I still have my old summit climber, I have 5 or 6 hangons around that I use a little, I'm not a LW salesman or anything like that, I just hate to see a bad review of a stand that isn't even being used right by a guy that obviously wants to find somethingwrong with his LW.
08-24-2008, 02:31 PM
#96
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
ORIGINAL: hillbilly archer
Tell you what, why don't you use the stand as its intended too, wait more than 2 days of having it, maybe actually hunt out of it, get good with it and if you still think that it takes 20 minutes to get 20 feet, then I will tell you that you should just hunt out of a ground blind and sit in it and stay outof treestands altogether.
20 minutes? I could climb 60 feet in 20 minutes. I never said the stand is perfect for everyone and everyone will love it as much as I, but you are saying all this and you've had the stand what? 2 or 3 days? How many times have you climbed with it? Seriously? I wanna know. Did you really buy this stand or did you take the LW challenge where they will let you try out a stand for 2 days and return it and not pay anything? They do that you know.
This is no longer as review of a LW climber to me anymore, it is simply a guy that is misusing a product and preaching about this and that wrong with it. I'm not against Summit or any other treestands. I still have my old summit climber, I have 5 or 6 hangons around that I use a little, I'm not a LW salesman or anything like that, I just hate to see a bad review of a stand that isn't even being used right by a guy that obviously wants to find somethingwrong with his LW.
If it's used RIGHT.....it'll take 20 minutes to get to the desired height.
I'm giving a real-life review of what I think of this stand......not a one-sided "All hail LW" endorsement. If I use the sit and climb bar every time (of course I'll use it......some).....this stand becomes VERY "marginal". I'm trying to maximize the advantageous aspects.
Used RIGHT....the increments in which one could ascend would be very small.
I'm giving a real-life review of what I think of this stand......not a one-sided "All hail LW" endorsement. If I use the sit and climb bar every time (of course I'll use it......some).....this stand becomes VERY "marginal". I'm trying to maximize the advantageous aspects.
Used RIGHT....the increments in which one could ascend would be very small.
20 minutes? I could climb 60 feet in 20 minutes. I never said the stand is perfect for everyone and everyone will love it as much as I, but you are saying all this and you've had the stand what? 2 or 3 days? How many times have you climbed with it? Seriously? I wanna know. Did you really buy this stand or did you take the LW challenge where they will let you try out a stand for 2 days and return it and not pay anything? They do that you know.
This is no longer as review of a LW climber to me anymore, it is simply a guy that is misusing a product and preaching about this and that wrong with it. I'm not against Summit or any other treestands. I still have my old summit climber, I have 5 or 6 hangons around that I use a little, I'm not a LW salesman or anything like that, I just hate to see a bad review of a stand that isn't even being used right by a guy that obviously wants to find somethingwrong with his LW.
08-24-2008, 02:54 PM
#97
Fork Horn
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
The actual climb only takes 5mins.I have this process down to a science, literally. But I've done it more than a few times.
08-24-2008, 03:41 PM
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
ORIGINAL: Germ
I just took mine out and tried it as a hand climber, I was 1 min 37 seconds faster[8D]
Then again I am younger than Jeff[8D]
I just took mine out and tried it as a hand climber, I was 1 min 37 seconds faster[8D]
Then again I am younger than Jeff[8D]
08-24-2008, 03:44 PM
#100
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RE: First 30 minites with the LW sit and climb
ORIGINAL: early in
You're the man!
ORIGINAL: Germ
I just took mine out and tried it as a hand climber, I was 1 min 37 seconds faster[8D]
Then again I am younger than Jeff[8D]
I just took mine out and tried it as a hand climber, I was 1 min 37 seconds faster[8D]
Then again I am younger than Jeff[8D]