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Schultzy 08-20-2008 08:58 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
Nope, Its just an abnormal point.

GregH 08-20-2008 09:19 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
I believe that all you need to score the buck as a non-typical is 1" of abnormal point growth. You may score your bucks either way as long as they meet this requirement. It may or may not hurt you depending on what you decide to do.

SwampCollie 08-20-2008 10:26 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: GregH

I believe that all you need to score the buck as a non-typical is 1" of abnormal point growth. You may score your bucks either way as long as they meet this requirement. It may or may not hurt you depending on what you decide to do.
This is true and untrue... depending on which scoring system you use of course. I understand Boone and Crockett and I am a measurer for them, so I'll explain their line of thinking. In fact... I'll just go ahead and quote it out right:


ORIGNIAL: Measuring and Scoring North American Big Game Trophies - Second Edition - pg. 39

If there are numerous abonormal points, the non-typical score chart should be used so that the additional points can add to the final score, rather than being subtracted from it. If the abnormal points are few in number and short in length(s), use the typical score chart that provides for a subtraction of the total lengths of such points as a penalty for non-symmetry. If there is any doubt as to which score chart should be use, the trophy can be measured both ways. If the trophy qualifies for both the typical and non-typical catagories, it CANNOT be listed in both. The final choice of the listing catagory in such instances rests with the trophy owner.
In this instance, a single point would not, in my opinion, qualify a trophy as a non-typical. Not for the Boone and Crockett Records.



YooperMike 08-20-2008 10:49 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
To qualify for B&C i think there is a minimum number of inches of nontypical growth, otherwise it is just deductions from typical.

buckeye 08-20-2008 11:00 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
Although not a "rule" the P&Y measurer I use suggests listing a buck as a non typical if the rack has around 10% or greater of it's score in abnormal points, other wise he suggests the typical category.

EX. 180 inch deer with 18 inchesof abnormal points.

The choice is up to whom ever is entering the deer, only a suggestion he offers to those "caught" in that predicament.

Germ 08-20-2008 11:06 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: buckeye

Although not a "rule" the P&Y measurer I use suggests listing a buck as a non typical if the rack has around 10% or greater of it's score in abnormal points, other wise he suggests the typical category.

EX. 180 inch deer with 18 inchesof abnormal points.

The choice is up to whom ever is entering the deer, only a suggestion he offers to those "caught" in that predicament.
Here's example my 2006 buck

Non Typical Score Gross 176
Non Typical Score Net 172

Typical score Gross 152
Typical score Net 124


Schultzy 08-20-2008 11:09 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: Schultzy

Nope, Its just an abnormal point.
I'll explain a little better this time. 1st of all the point has to be at least an inch long and it can't be any shorter then its width or it will not count as a point. 2nd, back in the day you needed 10% I think it was of abnormal points for it to be a NT. Them days are gone. There is no percentage anymore. Its your choice if you have abnormal points and you want to score it as a NT or Typical. Most people will make the choice that suits the bucks score the best. If you only have a few inches of abnormal points, score it as a typical. If you have allot of inches of abnormal points, score it as a NT. A good P&Y or B&C measurer will tell you the right way to go about it.

Schultzy 08-20-2008 11:10 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeye

Although not a "rule" the P&Y measurer I use suggests listing a buck as a non typical if the rack has around 10% or greater of it's score in abnormal points, other wise he suggests the typical category.

EX. 180 inch deer with 18 inchesof abnormal points.

The choice is up to whom ever is entering the deer, only a suggestion he offers to those "caught" in that predicament.
Here's example my 2006 buck

Non Typical Score Gross 176
Non Typical Score Net 172

Typical score Gross 152
Typical score Net 124

Great example Germ!

buckeye 08-20-2008 11:14 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeye

Although not a "rule" the P&Y measurer I use suggests listing a buck as a non typical if the rack has around 10% or greater of it's score in abnormal points, other wise he suggests the typical category.

EX. 180 inch deer with 18 inchesof abnormal points.

The choice is up to whom ever is entering the deer, only a suggestion he offers to those "caught" in that predicament.
Here's example my 2006 buck

Non Typical Score Gross 176
Non Typical Score Net 172

Typical score Gross 152
Typical score Net 124

Did you ever end up meeting with a measurer?

Germ 08-20-2008 11:16 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: buckeye


ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeye

Although not a "rule" the P&Y measurer I use suggests listing a buck as a non typical if the rack has around 10% or greater of it's score in abnormal points, other wise he suggests the typical category.

EX. 180 inch deer with 18 inchesof abnormal points.

The choice is up to whom ever is entering the deer, only a suggestion he offers to those "caught" in that predicament.
Here's example my 2006 buck

Non Typical Score Gross 176
Non Typical Score Net 172

Typical score Gross 152
Typical score Net 124

Did you ever end up meeting with a measurer?
Yep;) Will post some day, I was off, but not by much;) I have my sheets and cash ready to send in.

buckeye 08-20-2008 11:17 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeye


ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeye

Although not a "rule" the P&Y measurer I use suggests listing a buck as a non typical if the rack has around 10% or greater of it's score in abnormal points, other wise he suggests the typical category.

EX. 180 inch deer with 18 inchesof abnormal points.

The choice is up to whom ever is entering the deer, only a suggestion he offers to those "caught" in that predicament.
Here's example my 2006 buck

Non Typical Score Gross 176
Non Typical Score Net 172

Typical score Gross 152
Typical score Net 124

Did you ever end up meeting with a measurer?
Yep;) Will post some day, I was off, but not by much;) I have my sheets and cash ready to send in.
Cool, hope you enjoyed the "experience". How many did you take to have measured?

NCRemington700 08-20-2008 11:17 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
It makes no sense to deduct from a rack, especially a non-typical rack...ummm hello it's NON typical. Such is life though.

Germ--do you have a picture of that buck? That was before my HNI time.

Germ 08-20-2008 11:22 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: buckeye


ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeye


ORIGINAL: Germ


ORIGINAL: buckeye

Although not a "rule" the P&Y measurer I use suggests listing a buck as a non typical if the rack has around 10% or greater of it's score in abnormal points, other wise he suggests the typical category.

EX. 180 inch deer with 18 inchesof abnormal points.

The choice is up to whom ever is entering the deer, only a suggestion he offers to those "caught" in that predicament.
Here's example my 2006 buck

Non Typical Score Gross 176
Non Typical Score Net 172

Typical score Gross 152
Typical score Net 124

Did you ever end up meeting with a measurer?
Yep;) Will post some day, I was off, but not by much;) I have my sheets and cash ready to send in.
Cool, hope you enjoyed the "experience". How many did you take to have measured?
3 bucks and it was pretty cool.

Germ 08-20-2008 11:24 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
Here you go



One with walmart boy, LOL


bawanajim 08-20-2008 11:48 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
How's mister mass compare?

njbuck22 08-20-2008 11:54 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
Germ, AWSOME buck, congrats. That buck was also before my time here. Would you mind sharing the story behind him? Did you know of the bucks existance before you took him, or was the time you shot him the first time youve seen him? Great buck again.

NCRemington700 08-20-2008 11:54 AM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
Great deer Germ!

Man, you spooned the guts right out of him!

Germ 08-20-2008 12:09 PM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 

ORIGINAL: njbuck22

Germ, AWSOME buck, congrats. That buck was also before my time here. Would you mind sharing the story behind him? Did you know of the bucks existance before you took him, or was the time you shot him the first time youve seen him? Great buck again.
I almost shot him Oct 15th or so in the cornfield, Oct 29th I am hunting very back of the farm. Two decent bucks came by in the morning. Around 1:00 PM the wind shifted, I got in my boat to change stands. I called Dad, he stated he seen him that morning chasing a doe in the bean field. He ran back toward me. Well I pretty much knew where he was at. I ask dad if he wanted to hunt the cherry tree, because that was the best spot. He declined, I headed to the cherry tree to hunt. At 5:00 on the dot he popped out of the corn field. He actually walked behind me and by me. The wind had blown a tree down, he had to turn around and come back a bit and walk around the tree. I drilled him at about 12 yds, he went 35 yds and piled up.

Dad states he is never turning down a stand I offer again:D Two years in a row I did that, I shot a 140+ 10 in 2005 after I offered him the stand.

Schultzy 08-20-2008 12:30 PM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
Thats an awesome buck Germ!! A congratulations is in order on that monster! I wasn't around either when you shot him.

Great story as well.

Vito1 08-20-2008 12:40 PM

RE: Does a sticker off of a main beam make a buck NT ?
 
Awesome buck! I was just a lurker back then but I remember when you shot him. I don't recall seeing many giant Michigan bucks on here so it's easy to remember.;) Hoping to see Mr. Mass on here later this year.


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