10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

i was at gander mountian and the guy said for me to sight in my 10 yard pin (i got my bow upgraded, etc.) and then he said he was gonna show me a trick and that i didnt need a 10 yard pin. so will an 10 yard sighted-in pin hit the same at 20 yards. i tryed this out today and found some truth to it. is it because the arrow is still on rise when its at 10 yards and arcs bak at 20??

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

Well it depends on how fast and flat shooting your bow is. But I think most people have a 20 yard pin and that is for all under 20 yards.

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I have a 20-25-30 yard pins and the 20 yard pin works from 0-20 yards.

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Start at 20 unless your bow is shooting like 200fps and everything under 20 will be as dead on as you need. Unless your like 2 yards away then use your 40 yrd pin. trust me.;)

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For hunting, the fewer pins the better. I recommend a 20,30,40,etc. and gap shoot the rest. With a little practive its very easy.

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forget a 10 pin. by the time you get your bow out to 40 or 50 yards you would have more pins than sight.20,30,40 and shoot the gaps.

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Your 20 yard pin is alright to about 25 yards. Once you get past about 25 yards your arrow will start to drop drastically. At 10 yards you should be hitting about 1.5"-2" high which would make you good out to about 25. I personally use 1 pin out to 30 yards. I know that at distances betweein 30-35 I have to aim a bit high. I have a 40 yard pin that is perfect for 35-40 yard shot.


Just to cover my own ass....I have been drinking tonight!! :D:D:D

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

i agree forget the 10yd pin, 20yd is my closest.....

but checking your 20yd pin at 10yds, 5 yds, 2yds.....somethign to know....because yes you may have to aim using your differently possibly dramatically at 5 or 10yds.....

my 20 seems to be fine at 5/10yds though, but a few inches off at 5yds or 10yds due to the arrow being 3" or so lower than your sight can make the difference......on a super close shot.

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Good advice saluk. Yes....your 20 yd pin should suffice for every shot from 0-20.......but it would be important to know where you hit (in relation to the spot you're trying to hit) at all those yardages. At 1-2 yds.....you'll hit low (I'm 2.5" low).

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

Jeff...why is that?

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I couldn't agree more. That's why I use anHHA single pin sight.;)

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

Tim:

LOL...I don't wanna get into another "discussion" like we had in the last thread. Just go try it and see for yourself;)

Ah....EI....but there's something you're not divulging. The less moving parts, the better, also.Multi-pin sights have no moving parts to change yardages.

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I'm not quite shore if I get the gist of this.Anyway, when I set my single pin, in my case,at 20yrds (I won't shoot past 30), that's where it stays. There is no changing/adjusting for various yardages. Hence, no moving parts.

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The "gist" of it is....sights with multiple pins don't have moving parts. Never have to move anything to use it.....and there's never a chance of it being "set" on something else when the moment of truth comes.

That's all.....and enough for me.

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It would depend on your bow wieght as well as arrow wieght as to what you shoot for sight pins IMO. I use heavey wieghts and mine are set at 20-25-30 and it does well with me. After 20 yard it will start dropping on me and 35 yards is the max I shoot. I love it when it goes atraight threw them..;)

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When shooting from an elevated platform though, you need to be careful. Should you have to shoot in close, your 20 yard pin might be off because of the downward angle.

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I agree with livbucks, I have to keep reminding myself I hunt from the ground only..

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Give me an example, guys.

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I a firm believer that the arck in the arrow would be greater when shooting downward therefor giving be a poorer hit..

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Let's not make this harder than it needs to be for the boy.

Yes, elevated shots should be practiced however, using perfect form and bending at the waist your arrow should be dead nuts where you hold.

BUT if you don't bend at the waist but simply drop your bow arm yes, your arrow is going high because of poor form (ie your changing the triangle from peep, sight, anchor)

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

Rob said it best. 4 months left pal until Wi opener.

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I was referring to the flatter trajectory of downward shots (in close), compared to a more horizontal one. There is less gravitational pull as you shoot more vertical. I guess with modern bows having incredibly flat trajectory to beginwith, this might not be a concern. An extreme downward (straight down) shot is something you want to avoid on an animal, I know. They can be done, but not a good idea, nonetheless.
The poster brought it up, so from tree height, what else could he be referring to? Maybe he hunts from the ground, but that wasn't mentioned.

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I hear ya ROb....

My point in asking my question was to show how INSIGNIFICANT the angle is when determining where to aim. A 15yd shot from 15' up results in a shot that's less than 1yd differencethan the horizontally measureddistance.

Translation......non-negligible to the hunter. I agree with you. Use proper form and shoot your pins you sighted in from the ground.

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

Are you really saying it is considerable?
Just funnin' with ya.:D
Watch that English. Haha!!!

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You've just experienced a rarity.:D

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Oh jeeze, I am just kidding around. Don't mean to offend, that's for sure.
I've committed crimes against the English language myself.
I get amused whenI see it done is all.
I don't want to end up whacked! Please forgive!!

The recent thread got me going on this subject, soI thought I would inject it into the discussion is all.
See here: http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2966070&mpage=1

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

There's no problem. Not too much escapes us though.;):D:D

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

Ok I love my new HHa sight but I have to admit one time at Rob's I forgot to turn my pin back from 50 to 30 and shot over his yote at 30 yards! And lost a game of buck in the process! When I am out in the woods with my General I will set it on 27yards and will be fine out to about 33to 35 without having to worry!
One more thing I will try that today Jeff and let you know how I make out!;)

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

i recently switched back to my pendulum, however when i use pins i only have a 10 and 20 i don't shoot farther then 20 get closer to the game and don't worry about beyond.

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I use a 15 25 35pin setup so if it is alittle past i just aim alittle high and i am good to go.

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I have a single pin site that is sighted in at 20 yards but I can shoot accuratley from 1-45 yards out.

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Can any1 post a pic of this treestand shooting form?

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I get the gist. Bend at waist to lower the bow, not just lower the arm only.

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The form is really no different than when you are shooting from the ground. You want your bow arm to form a 90 degree angle with your upper body. The difference is all in your waist. You do not want to drop your bow arm to aim low. You want to bend forward at your waist. Your bow arm should always maintain that 90 degree angle with your upper body.

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Amen to that...I found that out the hard way some years ago. Practice allsenarios to eliminate any doubt.

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I shoot heavy arrows for my set and get a little over 200 fps out of it, I do not need a 10 yard pin. 20, 30, 40 for me.

Paul

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When shooting from a tree, you not only have to bend at the waist, but you need to also bend your neck, touch the string with your nose...If you don't do this you are raising the rear sight and when you raise the rear sight, you shoot high...

I have an older, slower bow, I use one pin for 15 yards and one for 25...

RE: 10 yard pin as 20 yard pin?????
 

I shot instinctive for years. I feel pretty confidentI would not use a sight at two yards. At such close range the adrenaline would make me forget I had a sight anyway.