Why is killing a buck so important?
#81
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
ORIGINAL: cooter144
I'm at a stage as a hunter where shooting an immature, small racked buck does absolutely nothing for me...been there done that...so if I don't get a crack at a buck that suits me I will happily take a doe to fill the freezer.
I'm at a stage as a hunter where shooting an immature, small racked buck does absolutely nothing for me...been there done that...so if I don't get a crack at a buck that suits me I will happily take a doe to fill the freezer.
#82
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
ORIGINAL: rimjob_rob
Wow, you shot spike bucks for 14 years in a row, maybe you should stand up and take a bow. You could rub it in my face for 300 days, and I would give a **** less. I am not going to go out to the fields and shoot the little bucks and not allow them to grow up in to the ones I want.
Wow, you shot spike bucks for 14 years in a row, maybe you should stand up and take a bow. You could rub it in my face for 300 days, and I would give a **** less. I am not going to go out to the fields and shoot the little bucks and not allow them to grow up in to the ones I want.
See ya at the check station, porkchop.
#83
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
In GA we get 10 does and 2 bucks 1 any size and 1 with 4 pts or more on a side. I live in a brown and down state and that is how I was raised, but I am fortunate to hunt a bow only county and can actually expect a deer I let walk to be around next year. That does not mean I will see or kill it but to know there is a chance helps me sleep better. I will never kill abuck I will not mountagain but I do love to go to my grandfathers lease in east GA and whack does with the meat hunters. They probably kill100 or so deer a year with more than half being smallerbucks and they love it. I guess as long as you enjoy itI say to each his own.
#84
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
Why is killing a buck so important?
Basically because its all I care to kill ,I live to hunt I enjoy every moment of it.Unlike some here,I do not for a moment feel my trivialinput on the states wildlife resources makes an ant's **** worth of difference.
I will kill a buck when and where I chose,if the buck I pass gets shot twenty minutes after I pass on him by a neighbor great job for that guy that killed him. He's now out of the woods and not molesting any more of my bucks.[:-]
Some of you take this hunting way to serious, we hunt we kill, pretty simple. Kill what you want ,cause I'm gonna.
Basically because its all I care to kill ,I live to hunt I enjoy every moment of it.Unlike some here,I do not for a moment feel my trivialinput on the states wildlife resources makes an ant's **** worth of difference.
I will kill a buck when and where I chose,if the buck I pass gets shot twenty minutes after I pass on him by a neighbor great job for that guy that killed him. He's now out of the woods and not molesting any more of my bucks.[:-]
Some of you take this hunting way to serious, we hunt we kill, pretty simple. Kill what you want ,cause I'm gonna.
#85
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Ryan:
TN makes a VALID point. "I" came into this at a time when taking does wasn't "taboo". Many didn't.
Excellent point.
Ryan:
TN makes a VALID point. "I" came into this at a time when taking does wasn't "taboo". Many didn't.
Excellent point.
The newer generations (Not younger as a stereo type but rather newer folksto the hunting scene, be it age or when they took it up) and again not bashing anyone are very happy to take doe. So us older guys don't need to feel the burden of managing the "public" herd. Heck guys line up to do it for "us". So we don't need to change our beliefs.
Now years later we have killed our share of Spikes, 4-points 6-points etc..The joy and challenge is now in the chance to take a larger antlered deer. We pass on bucks, many folks, in the same region,think we are liars, or just plain loco, when we tell them that.
So to the question is killing a buck important, well prior to reading this thread I started one on Time vs goals. You can get my insight there.In summary, to me killing a buck is not important, but given the opportunity, it will be one i'm proud of be it horn porn, company, situation, uniqueness..etc
#87
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d
Perhaps Jeff was referencing me, which is fine. We had a chat the other day about regional differences and I told him of howmany of usin Pa/Ohio were brought up. A buck was the goal to settle for less was in a word "wimpy". NOW before you jump me..let me say this is how we originally learned. Those of us that went beyond the poker table chats, with the elders, under a haze of cigarette smoke and the smell of whisky, learned much later that taking doe was neccesary for the good of the herd.
The newer generations (Not younger as a stereo type but rather newer folksto the hunting scene, be it age or when they took it up) and again not bashing anyone are very happy to take doe. So us older guys don't need to feel the burden of managing the "public" herd. Heck guys line up to do it for "us". So we don't need to change our beliefs.
Now years later we have killed our share of Spikes, 4-points 6-points etc..The joy and challenge is now in the chance to take a larger antlered deer. We pass on bucks, many folks, in the same region,think we are liars, or just plain loco, when we tell them that.
So to the question is killing a buck important, well prior to reading this thread I started one on Time vs goals. You can get my insight there.In summary, to me killing a buck is not important, but given the opportunity, it will be one i'm proud of be it horn porn, company, situation, uniqueness..etc
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Ryan:
TN makes a VALID point. "I" came into this at a time when taking does wasn't "taboo". Many didn't.
Excellent point.
Ryan:
TN makes a VALID point. "I" came into this at a time when taking does wasn't "taboo". Many didn't.
Excellent point.
The newer generations (Not younger as a stereo type but rather newer folksto the hunting scene, be it age or when they took it up) and again not bashing anyone are very happy to take doe. So us older guys don't need to feel the burden of managing the "public" herd. Heck guys line up to do it for "us". So we don't need to change our beliefs.
Now years later we have killed our share of Spikes, 4-points 6-points etc..The joy and challenge is now in the chance to take a larger antlered deer. We pass on bucks, many folks, in the same region,think we are liars, or just plain loco, when we tell them that.
So to the question is killing a buck important, well prior to reading this thread I started one on Time vs goals. You can get my insight there.In summary, to me killing a buck is not important, but given the opportunity, it will be one i'm proud of be it horn porn, company, situation, uniqueness..etc
excellent point i couldn't agree more enough said!!!!!!!!!!!
#88
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
I am a big buck addict. That is just the stage I am in during my hunting career. I love to shoot big bucks. When I was younger I would shoot any buck as long as it had horn on its head it was dead. But at that time in Tn that was all you could kill was bucks. You were not allowed to kill hardly any does. I think it was something like you could kill 18 bucks and 3 does during the deer season. It was that way up tell about 8 years ago when TN went to only 2 bucks. Now in my unit you can kill 3 bucks per year and 3 does per day all season long. Know that TN has a very good mature buck population that is all I care to hunt. I also have no problem taking does out for management purposes and meat in the fridge. I also consider taking a mature doe a very big accomplishment. Every time I go out these days I could kill a young buck just about. They are just not what I am after and they are not what satisfies me will I am hunting as I like a challenge on killing a mature deer weather it has 130 or 160 inches doesn't matter to me as long as it is mature. JMO
#89
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,236
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
Ryan, I didn't read the whole thread because...IT'S LONG!!
I too started out with the mindset of shoot any legal buck...shoot it now before someone else does.
Now I just like to interact with the most mature buck I can. Even if I don't shoot him. I get the same satisfaction out of just seeing and stalking or trying to shoot a nice mature buck. I tell the stories of the ones I've missed with the same fervor and enthusiasm than the bucks I've shot. I remember the days of having encounters with big bucks just as much if not more than the kills. The kill is almost unimportant in my gauge of satisfaction. Sure, I feel a high when I am successful, but it doesn't matter to me. When you hunt for your own reasons, your own enjoyment and peace, and not for the competitiveness and "something to prove", the baggage of all that falls away, and you almost become lost in the wild, and forget you are "civilized".
Being at close range of a mature buck is an experience like no other. They are so attuned, so suspicious, that the act of trying to make the shot is a tightrope walk. You know that one slip up, one eye blink at the wrong time, and the buck wins.
As far asI can tell, the more bone mass on his head, the higher the level of difficulty. The size seems to indicate experience and maturity. Knowing, Awareness, intellect.
I guess that's why big racks are sacred symbols of success to me.
A big rack is a sign of accomplishment, for both the buck, and the hunter.
I too started out with the mindset of shoot any legal buck...shoot it now before someone else does.
Now I just like to interact with the most mature buck I can. Even if I don't shoot him. I get the same satisfaction out of just seeing and stalking or trying to shoot a nice mature buck. I tell the stories of the ones I've missed with the same fervor and enthusiasm than the bucks I've shot. I remember the days of having encounters with big bucks just as much if not more than the kills. The kill is almost unimportant in my gauge of satisfaction. Sure, I feel a high when I am successful, but it doesn't matter to me. When you hunt for your own reasons, your own enjoyment and peace, and not for the competitiveness and "something to prove", the baggage of all that falls away, and you almost become lost in the wild, and forget you are "civilized".
Being at close range of a mature buck is an experience like no other. They are so attuned, so suspicious, that the act of trying to make the shot is a tightrope walk. You know that one slip up, one eye blink at the wrong time, and the buck wins.
As far asI can tell, the more bone mass on his head, the higher the level of difficulty. The size seems to indicate experience and maturity. Knowing, Awareness, intellect.
I guess that's why big racks are sacred symbols of success to me.
A big rack is a sign of accomplishment, for both the buck, and the hunter.
#90
RE: Why is killing a buck so important?
As far asI can tell, the more bone mass on his head, the higher the level of difficulty.
Not arguing....just pointing out.