do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
#21
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
ORIGINAL: kickin_buck
I have to say that is crap. When you go rabbit hunting, do you make sure you only shoot 2.5 or 3.5 yo rabbits. How about dove hunting? The fact is, big game hunting (deer hunting) is the only form of hunting where people thing it is wrong to take a young animal. An you don't have to be dirt poor or starving to death to justify it. I make very good money, but I love to eat deer. My two boys love to eat deer, as does my wife. I need 4-5 deer per year in order to have enough deer in the freezer to make it to the next season. In fact, I lick my lips when a young doe comes walking along because I know her backstraps are going to be the best there is when put on the grill. The older deer I kill get used for grind and suagage, the younger deer are steaks and roasts. Why is that unethical? Why does that give hunters a black eye. What gives hunters a black eye are those that kill their deer (buck or doe) and do not utilize the meat. This happens way more than people think it does. Hell, last year we had a guy come up from PA to hunt, he killed two nice bucks (one bow/one gun) and left the meat here for us to get rid of. He was actually going to throw the first one in the river after capping it out, that was before I threated to beat his butt if he did.
ORIGINAL: RuttNutt
It makes hunters look bad..period. I thinkwe, as hunters, should make our sport look as ethical and moral as possible. Shooting fawns wont do it and wont help us at all in the eyes of non hunters.
It makes hunters look bad..period. I thinkwe, as hunters, should make our sport look as ethical and moral as possible. Shooting fawns wont do it and wont help us at all in the eyes of non hunters.
I too have a family of four to feed, five now that my sister is living with us while she attends college, and we go through at least 5 deer a year. We also give some to friends and family. My wife specifically asks me and my son to shoot a couple of fawns every season when the opportunity presents itself. I usually try to take a few does/fawns early season, then I hunt for a buck during the rut, and go back to filling the freezer late season. If shooting fawns makes me a cold hearted guy, so be it, but it sure makes for some good grilling!
#22
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
Ethical might not be the proper term, "appropriate" might be better."Justifiable" maybe.
We as archers choose a weapon that adds challenge to the aspect of killing deer. Some consider traditional tackle as another step in adding handicaps to the process.
With this in mind for the life of me I can't see the killing of a fawn as fulfilling to any of the aspects that I hunt for.
An example of this would be killing a huge buck with your truck. Hey its legal ,its mature and its a free range buck not killed over bait in a pen so I'm just as proud as I can be, yea hes going on the wall baby.
We as archers choose a weapon that adds challenge to the aspect of killing deer. Some consider traditional tackle as another step in adding handicaps to the process.
With this in mind for the life of me I can't see the killing of a fawn as fulfilling to any of the aspects that I hunt for.
An example of this would be killing a huge buck with your truck. Hey its legal ,its mature and its a free range buck not killed over bait in a pen so I'm just as proud as I can be, yea hes going on the wall baby.
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2007
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RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
This didn't make a shred of sense. The question was about HARVESTING fawns...not killing just for fun.
"If we kill the small deer then there won't be any larger deer?" What?
"If we kill the small deer then there won't be any larger deer?" What?
ORIGINAL: Mergrath337
I voted no because it's a circumstantial answer. If you, a family member or friend is hungry and needs food than no problem. Now, if you're shooting it just to shoot it than obviously...yes. One should never aproach hunting as a form of satisfaction in the kill but in the harvest. Try to remain ethical in your approach. If we kill the small deer than there won't be any larger deer.
A successfull hunt isn't determined by what you bring home.
I voted no because it's a circumstantial answer. If you, a family member or friend is hungry and needs food than no problem. Now, if you're shooting it just to shoot it than obviously...yes. One should never aproach hunting as a form of satisfaction in the kill but in the harvest. Try to remain ethical in your approach. If we kill the small deer than there won't be any larger deer.
A successfull hunt isn't determined by what you bring home.
#25
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Being uneducated as to the "Why" they're taken, where needed.....is not my problem/issue.
I said this, before.....
I shoot them because they're another mouth....eating up the available food that the habitat I hunt will only produce so much of. Each day...on average...a whitetail deer is going to consume 4 lbs of food.
I shoot them because they are PROLIFIC breeders. A "this year's fawn" (in our mild climate) stands a good chance of being bred. The sooner they're removed from the herd.....the less food they consume from that day forward....and it's a 100% chance they won't be breeding if they're frozen in someone's freezer.
I shoot them (doe fawns)because they need killing (here). I don't shoot them for their "trophy status" (hardly qualify in my book). I don't "target" doe fawns, per se....but will shoot one if presented an ethical shot.
Ignorance as to why doe fawns are taken, in many instances,is (obviously) rampant.
Oh yeah....they are really cute beside brown rice, also.
Being uneducated as to the "Why" they're taken, where needed.....is not my problem/issue.
I said this, before.....
I shoot them because they're another mouth....eating up the available food that the habitat I hunt will only produce so much of. Each day...on average...a whitetail deer is going to consume 4 lbs of food.
I shoot them because they are PROLIFIC breeders. A "this year's fawn" (in our mild climate) stands a good chance of being bred. The sooner they're removed from the herd.....the less food they consume from that day forward....and it's a 100% chance they won't be breeding if they're frozen in someone's freezer.
I shoot them (doe fawns)because they need killing (here). I don't shoot them for their "trophy status" (hardly qualify in my book). I don't "target" doe fawns, per se....but will shoot one if presented an ethical shot.
Ignorance as to why doe fawns are taken, in many instances,is (obviously) rampant.
Oh yeah....they are really cute beside brown rice, also.
#26
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Ethical might not be the proper term, "appropriate" might be better."Justifiable" maybe.
We as archers choose a weapon that adds challenge to the aspect of killing deer. Some consider traditional tackle as another step in adding handicaps to the process.
With this in mind for the life of me I can't see the killing of a fawn as fulfilling to any of the aspects that I hunt for.
An example of this would be killing a huge buck with your truck. Hey its legal ,its mature and its a free range buck not killed over bait in a pen so I'm just as proud as I can be, yea hes going on the wall baby.
Ethical might not be the proper term, "appropriate" might be better."Justifiable" maybe.
We as archers choose a weapon that adds challenge to the aspect of killing deer. Some consider traditional tackle as another step in adding handicaps to the process.
With this in mind for the life of me I can't see the killing of a fawn as fulfilling to any of the aspects that I hunt for.
An example of this would be killing a huge buck with your truck. Hey its legal ,its mature and its a free range buck not killed over bait in a pen so I'm just as proud as I can be, yea hes going on the wall baby.
#27
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
There is definatly a couple different ways to look at this. If a guy has to feed his family, or help a freind in need, so be it. A guy that is well to do, just out to kill him a deer, well thats a different story......
Two years ago, Good chanceyou were the kind of guy I am talkin' about..... "If it's brown, it's down" I am not bashing the guy in need of meat, that has no other means to feed his family or freinds family. It's my view that as hunters, we have a duty to make our sport and way of life as moral and ethical as possible. I seriously doubt your land is soooooo overun with fawns that you need to shoot everyone you see.........
I think I am going to target a few fawns this year, just to get the ethics police after me
Some places.....ANY dead deer is helpful in the management of the population.
#28
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
ORIGINAL: RuttNutt
It makes hunters look bad..period. I thinkwe, as hunters, should make our sport look as ethical and moral as possible. Shooting fawns wont do it and wont help us at all in the eyes of non hunters.
ORIGINAL: Bowtech 360
How would taking a fawn be any less ethical then taking Buck, like GMMAT said, they look cute on a plate too. Ethical means right and wrong right? Hunters have to stick together.
How would taking a fawn be any less ethical then taking Buck, like GMMAT said, they look cute on a plate too. Ethical means right and wrong right? Hunters have to stick together.
I'm sure all the bucks and does that gettaken every season believe we are both highly immoral and unethical for treating themthe way we do. But as long as you feel it is OK.
#29
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
ORIGINAL: bawanajim
Ethical might not be the proper term, "appropriate" might be better."Justifiable" maybe.
We as archers choose a weapon that adds challenge to the aspect of killing deer. Some consider traditional tackle as another step in adding handicaps to the process.
With this in mind for the life of me I can't see the killing of a fawn as fulfilling to any of the aspects that I hunt for.
An example of this would be killing a huge buck with your truck. Hey its legal ,its mature and its a free range buck not killed over bait in a pen so I'm just as proud as I can be, yea hes going on the wall baby.
Ethical might not be the proper term, "appropriate" might be better."Justifiable" maybe.
We as archers choose a weapon that adds challenge to the aspect of killing deer. Some consider traditional tackle as another step in adding handicaps to the process.
With this in mind for the life of me I can't see the killing of a fawn as fulfilling to any of the aspects that I hunt for.
An example of this would be killing a huge buck with your truck. Hey its legal ,its mature and its a free range buck not killed over bait in a pen so I'm just as proud as I can be, yea hes going on the wall baby.
#30
RE: do you think it's ethical to havest fawns?
I have no issue shooting doe fawns (no spots) but I would not shoot fawns with spots. I however target both mature doe and bucks but does of any age are good conservation.