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jackflap 08-13-2008 03:19 PM

RE: Look what my buddy found lurking near one of the stands yesterday!
 

Original:Bigbull
The fact is that more snake bites come from messing with the snakes than do leaving them alone. If everyone just left them alone and walked around them there would be far far less reported snake bites in the U.S.

While I don't agree with everything you say in regards to snakes, on this I wholeheartedly agree with.
I mentioned I know of somebody being bitten every year in our area...... while not 100%, messing with them is a common theme in those that get bitten.

But I'll still kill 'em in my yard or pastures. Why? I guess because I've been programmed to do so. Doing so might get me bitten some day. But I'll take my chances today knowing where he is rather than wondering where he is tomorrow or the next day or the next.


Original:bigbulls
My dog was bitten twice (same incident) by a cottonmouth and we spentover a thousand bucks keeping her in the vets office on anti venom. I still don't kill them when I see them just because they are a snake.

I had a Lab that was bitten bya rattlesnake years ago. Head got almost the size of a basketball. I took to the vet. He said let it run its course. The dog might die and he might not. He didn't. About two years later he gets bitten again. This time he only swelled to about half the size as compared to the first, and within a few days or a week(Idon't remember exactly) he was back to normal.


Rory/MO 08-13-2008 05:01 PM

RE: Look what my buddy found lurking near one of the stands yesterday!
 

Well, a copper head isn't likely going to kill anything larger than a rat unless you happend to be one of the extremely rare people that are allergic to things like bee stings and the like. Sure it willhurt and you will swell and suchbut it isn't going to be life threatening or anything like that.

A Cotton mouth can be a little agressive when provokedbut I have never had one come at me and I have been around thousand of them. They will stand their ground more than other snakes will but rarely ever attack a human being. As a kid I would catch and kill cottonmouth almost daily. Since then I have grown up and don't fear something like a snake. I am far more "fearful" of walking down the street then I will ever be walking through the woods in the dark.Usually when a snake gets agressive they are either shedding their skin and can't see well enough to know where you are or what youare anddefend themselvesor you are screwing with them.

The fact is that more snake bites come from messing with the snakes than do leaving them alone. If everyone just left them alone and walked around them there would be far far less reported snake bites in the U.S.

My dog was bitten twice (same incident) by a cottonmouth and we spentover a thousand bucks keeping her in the vets office on anti venom. I still don't kill them when I see them just because they are a snake.


They must be different wherever you are then;)

bigbulls 08-13-2008 09:09 PM

RE: Look what my buddy found lurking near one of the stands yesterday!
 
WhenI lived in SE Texas (Katy) Cotton mouths were absolutely every where in the drainage ditches, rice fields, marshes, lakes and ponds.I live in NW Florida now but I don't go looking for them like I use to. I do come across them, and diamond back rattlesnakes,every so often while hunting and fishing and just leave them alone and they always go the other way unless I am messing with them.As a teenager in KatyI went looking for snakes on almost a daily basis. It was nothing to come across several cotton mouths in just a few hours of walking around. Same goes for the prarie rattlesnake in the rocky foothills of Colorado. My dog, the one that got bitten, actually walked right over a prarie rattler that was sunning itself in the middle of a trail and it never moved until I picked it up and moved it off the trail up on a rocky ledge.

The only snakes I have ever been actually chased by are water snakes and coach whips.


BB, Why do you say this? Is it because of the "amount" of venom a copperhead can inject into a person?
YEs, they have the same type of venom but a copperheadsisn't capable ofstoring and injecting, at anyone time,enoughof that venom to be fatal to huimans except in rare cases or the very young or elderly.It does still cause a lot of local pain and tissue damage but rarely fatal unless bitten by more than one snake. And believe it or not, if thesnake can't get away andonce provoked,a copperhead is actually a far more agressive snake and more apt to actually strikethan a cottonmouth and they are lightning quick.

Remember that the venom of snakes is there for onlytwo reasons. Toimmobilize its pray as quick as possible and to aid in digestion. It isn't there to harm humans. We are obviously not on their menu and while a snake isn't exactly an intelligent creature they are not in the business of wasting their venomby making a habit ofbitingsomething they aren't going to eat.


WRONG!!!!! I have been chased back to the boat many times by cottonmouths here in the swamps in Florida that were not provoked in any way, and have gone out of their way to give chase to a grown man screaming like a little school girl.
I obviously wasn't there but did you stick around long enough to see if they were actually cottonmouths or just water snakes cause they look very similar to each other, especially swimming through the water.

jackflap 08-13-2008 09:16 PM

RE: Look what my buddy found lurking near one of the stands yesterday!
 

Original:Bigbulls
My dog, the one that got bitten, actually walked right over a prarie rattler that was sunning itself in the middle of a trail and it never moved until I picked it up and moved it off the trail up on a rocky ledge.

You mention in an earlier post that most people that get bit are because they are messing with them and you go around picking them up? Man you are crazy.:)

As far as comparing myself to the "average joe", I don't consider myself scared of snakes, but no way am I going to pick up a poisonous snake, not even on a bet.

bigbulls 08-13-2008 09:23 PM

RE: Look what my buddy found lurking near one of the stands yesterday!
 

You mention in an earlier post that most people that get bit are because they are messing with them and you go around picking them up? Man you are crazy.:)
Believe me, you aren't the first person to tell me that. ;)

If she could have, my wife would have shot me dead the day I brought a live rattle snake to the house in a box. I didn't do it to scare her.... I actually wanted her to see what one looked like and how it sounded so that she could avoid them because they were pretty common in the area.

dstubb 08-13-2008 10:50 PM

RE: Look what my buddy found lurking near one of the stands yesterday!
 
I grew up in the Ozark Mountains of Missouri and Copperheads, Cottonmouths and Rattlesnakes were all too common. As a youngster we had two Golden Retrievers that we kept chained up beside there dog houses. Well one morning my dad went out to take them for a walk in the woods only to find that they were both dead. The vet said that they had both been bitten by a copperhead multiple times and that there necks swelled so much that there collars actually chocked them to death. The vet said that the venom wouldn't have killed them on it's own. On another occasion i remember hiking in the fall on a heavily used trail when i stepped on something slippery and had to catch myself with my hand, went i bent down i was greeted with the strike of a copperhead that was coiled up on the orange leaves. Luckily she missed me and after that all i remember is running non stop for about 20 minutes until i got home. I also went to school with a kid who's dad got bitten on the hand by a cottonmouth while washing his hands in the river. He had just baited a hook and bent down to wash his hands off when all of a sudden a cottonmouth struck out from under a rock. At first the guy tried to be all tough about it and refused to medical attention and after his entire hand and wrist turned black he had to take another four hours to get to the nearest hospital. They ended up amputating the guys left hand due to the tissue damage.

The Rev 08-14-2008 03:06 AM

RE: Look what my buddy found lurking near one of the stands yesterday!
 

ORIGINAL: robbcayman

I wear snake boots for that very reason. During bow season they are really thick here in Oklahoma. When putting my feeders up in May I ran into a large copperhead and he ran into my Glock 30 (.45);):D

A rat snake I will give a pass to, but not a copperhead or rattler. I hunt in really thick woods and they used to always be on my mind during bow season, but the boots give me a real peace of mind.

I always wear snake boots here it Texas..:D




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