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Wow, better keep that link away from my parents, I had to vote #1 because me parents buy the best there is. My mom drives the latest Lexus.
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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: Rickmur I have some Enimga I'll trade for some Wolfskin;). Both are very exspensive |
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Fran, are you on a personal quest to destroy every overpriced/gimmick hunting product? Why be a lawyer when your true calling is to be a consumer advocate?
Oh.... and doyou reallywear whitie tighties? Maybe if you wore boxers you would loosen up some.[:-];):D |
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ORIGINAL: Rickmur ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: Rickmur I have some Enimga I'll trade for some Wolfskin;). Both are very exspensive |
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I am surprised that all of the wolfskin fans are so quiet on this thread.. All of the GWW promoters and Enigma promoters are all much quieter than usual. I'll try to find some time tonight to capture some thoughts on here. |
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ORIGINAL: robbcayman Fran, are you on a personal quest to destroy every overpriced/gimmick hunting product? Why be a lawyer when your true calling is to be a consumer advocate? Oh.... and doyou reallywear whitie tighties? Maybe if you wore boxers you would loosen up some.[:-];):D I've got no agenda. Nobody is scratching my back or greasing my palms, I'mnot angling for anything for free, and I don't want to be on anyone's pro staff. All I know is, if you're trying to hawk pants for $300, you'd better understand that, sooner or later, somebody is going to step up andwant to know why apair of BDU-looking camopantscosts morethan a pair ofVersace's. I asked the question, and the public responded. We actually got some colorable answers as towhy this guy's stuff costs so much - and even met some satisfied customers. Now are those answers good enough tochange my opinion (that the clothes are overpriced)? No. But it was an informative, enjoyable discussion nonetheless. And I happen to think that I look delightful in my whitie tighties. People ask me everyday how I ever got to be so hot. *blush* |
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I can't justify spending that much on any article of clothing. I don't think I'd even consider buying it, if it spotted the deer for you;). I'm gonna keep using my hand-me-down camo, I think I can find better stuff to spend my money on.
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver LMAO - Hey man, if I think somebody is getting raked or isblowing smoke up our collective asses, Itake a few minutes to gather up theavailable info, and run thered flag up the pole- no matter how unpopular that viewpoint may be. You keep quoting the wool stuff and forcing the apples to oranges argument.. Wool is expensive, don’t buy it, I didn’t.. And exactly who is getting raked??? Up until now there's been nothing but positive word of mouth by real customers who used GWW products and gave their honest feedback.. Sorry Robin Hood,you're not looking out for the little guy who's getting raked by GWW.. ORIGINAL: quiksilver I've got no agenda. I think your sensibilities are offended that a company can charge what they like when they have no Gucci, Rolex or Fendi prestige whatsoever. |
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver ORIGINAL: robbcayman Fran, are you on a personal quest to destroy every overpriced/gimmick hunting product? Why be a lawyer when your true calling is to be a consumer advocate? Oh.... and doyou reallywear whitie tighties? Maybe if you wore boxers you would loosen up some.[:-];):D I've got no agenda. Nobody is scratching my back or signing my checks. I'mnot angling for anything for free. I don't want to be on anyone's pro staff. All I know is, if you're trying to hawk pants for $300, you'd better understand that, sooner or later, somebody is going to step up andwant to know why apair of BDU-looking camopantscosts morethan a pair ofVersace's. I asked the question, and the public responded. We actually got some colorable answers as towhy this guy's stuff costs so much - and even met some satisfied customers. Now are those answers good enough tochange my opinion (that the clothes are overpriced)? No. But it was an informative, enjoyable discussion nonetheless. And I happen to think that I look delightful in my whitie tighties. People ask me everyday how I ever got to be so hot. *blush* I think the idea of a $300 pair of camo pants is asinine. However, this argument could be used for women's purses, more specifically coach purses.[:@] My wife wanted one of these stupid $400 coach purses. I thought it was ludicrous and tried telling her nogay pursewas worth that.She looked me dead in the eyes and said I don't think a bow and arrow is worth a nickel.[&o] I immediately retreated and conceded the argument.Long story short, she got the purse. [&o]I learned that sometimes it makes sense to lose the battle in orderto win the war. Did I mention I'm getting a Hoyt Katera. ;) |
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Whitehorn - actually, I did. I found out that "wolfskin" is really just polyester warp knit with a waterproof coating - the same thing that Cabela's or WhitewaterOutdoorspeddles everyday. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of us didn't know that before this whole conversation began.
I showed you a $50 Predator camo coat made of the same "warp knit" (without the waterproofing). We've had a few people come forward, who actually own the stuff - and tell us that they eitherwouldn't buy it again, or would only buy the base model warp-poly unlined. Conversely, we've heard from satisfied customers, like you, GregMO and WKPTodd. So, by way of review, we've heard: [ul][*]The Good[*]The Mixed Emotions[*]And the Ugly.[/ul] That, my friend, is as impartial as it gets. Contrary to what you may believe - I couldn't care less about the prestigious corporate name. In fact, I'm usually raging against the machine and pullingfor the little guy. I have no dog in this fight. I'm just trolling the waters to see if I can figure out why his pants cost $189 (unlined with pockets) and mine cost $29.99 at Gander Mountain. A 600% jump in price is nothing to sneeze at. |
RE: Gray Wolf Woolens? What's the fuss all about?
ORIGINAL: Germ ORIGINAL: Rickmur ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: Rickmur I have some Enimga I'll trade for some Wolfskin;). Both are very exspensive  |
RE: Gray Wolf Woolens? What's the fuss all about?
ORIGINAL: Rickmur ORIGINAL: Germ ORIGINAL: Rickmur ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: Rickmur I have some Enimga I'll trade for some Wolfskin;). Both are very exspensive
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver Whitehorn - actually, I did. I found out that "wolfskin" is really just polyester warp knit with a waterproof coating - the same thing that Cabela's or WhitewaterOutdoorspeddles everyday. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of us didn't know that before this whole conversation began. I showed you a $50 Predator camo coat made of the same "warp knit" (without the waterproofing). I'm just trolling the waters to see if I can figure out why his pants cost $189 (unlined with pockets) and mine cost $29.99 at Gander Mountain. A 600% jump in price is nothing to sneeze at. Warp Knit, Wolfskin the same thing?? Most likely, I don't know or care and certainly wouldn't make any unfounded claims... I'llsay it again,if you compare any GWW wolfskin garment to the range of 'technical' non cotton fabric garments, you'd find that the GWW garments are well within the pricerange, offered by the big box outfitters. The 'made to order'stuff is on the high side, but the returns and clearance items are much cheaper. Nothing unusual andcertainly shouldn't make you sneeze.Apples, to Apples.. ORIGINAL: quiksilver Conversely, we've heard from satisfied customers, like you, GregMO and WKPTodd. So, by way of review, we've heard: [ul][*]The Good[*]The Mixed Emotions[*]And the Ugly.[/ul] That, my friend, is as impartial as it gets. ORIGINAL: quiksilver In fact, I'm usually raging against the machine and pullingfor the little guy. |
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We … quickly entered the realm of absurd. Indeed we did. For a lot of reasons, but the following statement solidly placed us there: I’ve looked at their site, and honestly – the clothes look (emphasis mine) quite average… How this product looks, especially in a picture -- on a website at that – has got to be the worst reason I’ve yet seen used to calculate that product’s value to its customer base. A titanium nitride coated drill bit, doesn’t look[/b] any different than a regular Wal-Mart drill bit – but it will last on average six times longer than standard high-speed drill bits. But people serious about using drill bits understand the difference between price and cost. Likewise, the serious hunters that Gray Wolf Woolens caters to care about form, fit and function, period. The fact that these garments are offered in what many of the most hard-core of that population believe to be among the best camouflage patterns available is icing on the cake. And you will notice a difference when you actually wear it, not just look at it. Aside from that… Whitehorn correctly pointed outthe “apples and oranges” comparison to a mass merchant’s inventory; in case it wasn’t noticed, I’ll point one out , too. Perhaps this one could better be labeled a “bait and switch” tactic from you though. You ask our readers if they’ve ever seen this mythical Wolfskin, then imbed a picture of $329 wool pants. Unless someone is knowledgeable about GWW, or takes the time to do their due diligence, one wouldn’t realize that Wolfskin pants start at $149.95 – not twice the amount you posted without clarification. Now let’s really put our cognitive skills to work here, as you seem to love to do. Break down that $40 article of clothing you found at a mass merchant; someone paid to ship it overseas to get here AND STILL MADE A PROFIT! That means it was assembled using labor rates of … what? The current federal minimum wage of $6.55 an hour? You think? It takes between six and seven hours to cut out and sew a pair of GWW wolfskin pants. Now add in the cost of the raw material (two yards of fabric), overhead costs like an employee, sewing equipment, building rent, electricity, insurance, website, catalog printing, advertising, etc. Now after you add those all up, lets figure in just a little bit of profit so the owner can make a buck to stay in business, purchase more material and continue to provide a quality product to those who appreciate it. Do the math...now what do you think would be a better price for GWW products? You often laud the fact you like to help the “little man”… Do you realize that Gray Wolf Woolens is basically a one-man show? If you want to keep helping the larger companies that send their stuff to be made in China, go ahead; it’s called freedom of choice. GWW will NEVER be able to compete price-wise with Chinese-made clothing, and isn’t attempting to do so. But if you want a top-notch quality product where more of your money stays in the United States to help OUR economy, then GWW may be a good choice. Is custom sizing and fit important to everyone? Heck, no. These products aren’t made for everyone, and GWW isn’t trying to claim they are. I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that they’re more comfortable to wear, are more colorfast, are better at resisting burring, and is about as waterproof as you can get without being labeled as such.I also appreciate being able toorder and wear a "medium-plus" pant, and not try to eithersqueeze into a medium or cinchupa large before walking through the Colorado mountains for twoweeks. As far as warp knit being warp knit, it’s not. I know for a fact that Predator and Cabela’s does not obtain their warp knit from the same supplier as GWW, and there is a difference. In fact, Predator currently carries three different versions of warp knit, and all possess differing qualities. Even after all that, there’ll be someone to come along and say something like this: That is nice, but I can kill a deer in a $100 suit. Sure you can. But why even spend the $100? We can kill deer in blue jeans and t-shirts. It’s because some want better options, and are willing to pay for it. Those who do will always appreciate a company like Gray Wolf Woolens and what it both stands for and offers. |
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That is nice, but I can kill a deer in a $100 suit. Sure you can. But why even spend the $100? We can kill deer in blue jeans and t-shirts. It’s because some want better options, and are willing to pay for it. Those who do will always appreciate a company like Gray Wolf Woolens and what it both stands for and offers. BTW don't ask what I spend on camo[8D] |
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Very well put Greg...
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On one other topic I have been meaning to add, but keep forgetting. At anytime, Jeff is back-ordered anywhere between 30 days and 4 months (depending on time of year). I think that pretty much says it all. There are certain types of guys who want top of the line stuff and to be catered to like they are actually a valued customer. This is why Jeff can litterally never keep up!
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RE: Gray Wolf Woolens? What's the fuss all about?
ORIGINAL: Rickmur ORIGINAL: Germ ORIGINAL: Rickmur ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer ORIGINAL: Rickmur I have some Enimga I'll trade for some Wolfskin;). Both are very exspensive
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Likewise, the serious hunters that Gray Wolf Woolens caters to care about form, fit and function, period. There are certain types of guys who want top of the line stuff and to be catered to like they are actually a valued customer. |
RE: Gray Wolf Woolens? What's the fuss all about?
Like Todd said, Jeff.. GWW's products are in such demand that he's backlogged anywhere from one to four months, at least; I've personally seen more. There's times I honestly don't even mention his company because I know how backed up he is with orders.
Do you think all those customers are getting"deals"? Or even most? The company wouldn't be in business if they were. |
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And, yes... I've paid retail for his stuff. Lots of it.
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Greg...I don't begrudge anyone any "deal" they get. I was yanking your collective chains.
I own the stuff...and I love it (just not Jeff's stuff, but wolfskin, nonetheless). Truth be told....when mine wears out....I'll buy more. Ifthat happens to be from Jeff....so be it. I think I'll start saving, now.[&:] |
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ORIGINAL: Greg / MO How this product looks, especially in a picture -- on a website at that – has got to be theworst (emphasis added) reason I’ve yet seen used to calculate that product’s value to its customer base. Sorry Greg, but I have to disagree. I won't buy a $20,000.00 Yugo, because it looks like a piece of crap. I don't need to test-drive it. I don't need to feel the upholstery. I don't need to read testimonials. It looks crappy, so I take a pass. Trust me, I can tell from the pictures. Sometime, pictures alone are enough tobase your opinionon. See Exhibit A.  The People's Exhibit A I do the same thing with food, clothing, hairstyles, dry goods, and pretty much every tangible piece of merchandise that I buy. It's the American way. We window shop. Welcome to America, where we base purchases on visual perception. We're all guilty of window-shopping. If you say you've never based an opinion on looks alone- you're only kidding yourself. My question is (and has always been): What justification is there for dropping a bill-and-a-half on a pair of 4-pocket hunting pants? What justification is there for paying $180 for a pair of unlined hunting pants with cargo pockets? No scent containment (that's extra). You guys are flying off the handle because you don't like the answer - not the question. If everyone would've jumped on here and said "Gray Wolf is the greatest bargain in the free world," y'all would've gone to bed happy, with rainbows dancing in your dreams. If it's purely a donation to the small domestic guy who provides exemplary customer service and a competitive product, and fights thegiants -then let's call it that. If it's truly a superior product, then let's call a spade a spade and give credit where it's due. Like many things, the realanswer apparentlylies somewhere in the middle, and is subject to subjectivity. The results of this survey and the bulk of the opinions being floated here, however, seem to suggest that he isusing solid materials (warp knit is good stuff), but just that his prices are a lot higher than the Average Joe canafford. So, the crux of the whole discussion seems tosuggest that, ifGWWever wants to bite off a bigger market share or get his product in morepeoples' collective hands - it mightbe time to explore a larger economy of scale and try to start suppressing the costs in whatever ways possible. |
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In all honesty Fran if Jeff made it cheaper he would lose his market;) GWW is very smart, he is marketing to that 10-20% of hunter who wants what others don't have(stores not hunters).
I myself am still looking for that perfect bowhunting jacket. I can tell you this: It's Fleece Great quiet zipper Sleeves are fitted can be adjusted at the wrist(no velcro) Nice fit under the arms, no sagging or puffed out. Draw strings for the bottom Mock Collar(like the golf shirts) Same Jacket in waterproof also Pants to match, for the life of me I cannot understand why jackets shirts today have huge collars[:@] |
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[quote]Rick, All Enigma was made in Wolfskin, it's never been made in anything else but Wolfskin. Unless I'm truly mistaken but I don't believe so./quote]
I did not know that Rob. I truly love the Enigma but it doesn't fit anymore. I hope to sell it and maybe invest it back in GWW. Germ, I guess Rob answered you too but I bought minein the spring of 07 when the 2nd generation was coming out. |
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ORIGINAL: Rickmur Rick, All Enigma was made in Wolfskin, it's never been made in anything else but Wolfskin. Unless I'm truly mistaken but I don't believe so./quote] I did not know that Rob. I truly love the Enigma but it doesn't fit anymore. I hope to sell it and maybe invest it back in GFF. Germ, I guess Rob answered you too but I bought minein the spring of 07 when the 2nd generation was coming out. Germ's Freak Fest is all I came up with:D |
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ORIGINAL: Rickmur Rick, All Enigma was made in Wolfskin, it's never been made in anything else but Wolfskin. Unless I'm truly mistaken but I don't believe so. Germ, I guess Rob answered you too but I bought minein the spring of 07 when the 2nd generation was coming out. |
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What was the point of this thread?:eek:
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RE: Gray Wolf Woolens? What's the fuss all about?
ORIGINAL: quiksilver ORIGINAL: Greg / MO How this product looks, especially in a picture -- on a website at that – has got to be theworst (emphasis added) reason I’ve yet seen used to calculate that product’s value to its customer base. Sorry Greg, but I have to disagree. I won't buy a $20,000.00 Yugo, because it looks like a piece of crap. I don't need to test-drive it. I don't need to feel the upholstery. I don't need to read testimonials. It looks crappy, so I take a pass. Trust me, I can tell from the pictures. Sometime, pictures alone are enough tobase your opinionon. See Exhibit A. The People's Exhibit A I do the same thing with food, clothing, hairstyles, dry goods, and pretty much every tangible piece of merchandise that I buy. It's the American way. We window shop. Welcome to America, where we base purchases on visual perception. We're all guilty of window-shopping. If you say you've never based an opinion on looks alone- you're only kidding yourself. My question is (and has always been): What justification is there for dropping a bill-and-a-half on a pair of 4-pocket hunting pants? What justification is there for paying $180 for a pair of unlined hunting pants with cargo pockets? No scent containment (that's extra). You guys are flying off the handle because you don't like the answer - not the question. If everyone would've jumped on here and said "Gray Wolf is the greatest bargain in the free world," y'all would've gone to bed happy, with rainbows dancing in your dreams. If it's purely a donation to the small domestic guy who provides exemplary customer service and a competitive product, and fights thegiants -then let's call it that. If it's truly a superior product, then let's call a spade a spade and give credit where it's due. Like many things, the realanswer apparentlylies somewhere in the middle, and is subject to subjectivity. The results of this survey and the bulk of the opinions being floated here, however, seem to suggest that he isusing solid materials (warp knit is good stuff), but just that his prices are a lot higher than the Average Joe canafford. So, the crux of the whole discussion seems tosuggest that, ifGWWever wants to bite off a bigger market share or get his product in morepeoples' collective hands - it mightbe time to explore a larger economy of scale and try to start suppressing the costs in whatever ways possible. Even if I had an unlimited supply of money I just don't see myself buying these pants. As previously mentioned, if other pants contain the same material for a fraction of the price it would seem wise to purchase those instead. Plus, the bad thing about clothes is they deteriorate at a rapid pace. Whereas, something like a bow, watch, gun etc.. tends to actually hold their value. I bet the manufacturer is laughing all the way to the bank. Actually, the reason these pants don't come with pockets is because you won't have any money to put in the pants after buying them.[:-];) |
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Picking out one senctence without the context of the following three or four is solid posting? Read the whole paragraph in MY post; THAT'S solid posting.
Some of the members here have come toenjoy asarcastic or comical answer butfail to look further for the substance behind it. That line of thinking is just aserroneous as the thinking that continually pouring your money down the drain buying disposable clothing every few years for a 1/3 or even 1/4 of the price is saving you money. Plus, the bad thing about clothes is they deteriorate at a rapid pace. Whereas, something like a bow, watch, gun etc.. tends to actually hold their value. But let's be honest here: Holding value isn't the reason GWW has a loyal customer base. If I were concerned about "investments" and items I purchased holding value, I'd be purchasing gold -- or more realistically, I'd be investing in companies making a splash in the molecular diagnostic business in the hospital laboratory business. I don't understand why other posters feel the need to vehemently defend the aforementionedcompany. Perhaps that's why this was the most spot-on commentary of Quik's whole original post: At least once-a-day, somebody refers to it as the gold-standard in hunting clothing. |
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I don't understand why other posters feel the need to vehemently defend the aforementioned company. I can promise you there are things you own I would never spend money on but I wouldn't call you names for purchasing anything you wish with your own money. THAT IS SOLID POSTING! |
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Maybe it's because we don't understand the need for some to come on and attack a company when they've never even actually held the product in their hands? Let the existing customer base come on the forums and complain if they feel slighted... but somehow I don't think that's going to happen, given the satisfaction rate of many of GWW's long-term and repeat customers. |
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Attack? Who is attacking? I'm giving you the floor to tell me why it's worth the price. So far, I've learned that:
[ul][*]Since it's made in the USA, we have to pay more (understandable);[*]Since it's MTO, we have to pay more (understandable);[*]He's using a type of warp knit that isn't quite the same as the stuff commercially available elsewhere (good);[*]Better seams for increased durability (positive);[*]Burr-free and color retentive (good); and[*]Not as expensive as it seems at first glance, b/c no liner is needed (again, positive).[/ul] Conversely, we've learned that: [ul][*]It's still pretty damn expensive;[*]Warp knit polyester is available through many other avenues at a much lower price;[*]Pockets are extra;[*]Scent containment is extra;[*]Some people who have owned it have mixed feelings about buying it again;[*]There can be an extended wait time for GWW garments; and[*]You can buy similar DWR waterproofing treatments, and add it to your clothes on your own.[/ul] Greg - you're acting like I've murdered this man's entire family, poisoned his dogand tipped over his grandmother's wheelchair. Meanwhile, all I did was ask "why so damn expensive?" I feel like that's a very fair question, especially given how much we've heard about this camo (and how great it is) over the past couple years - and the sticker-shock that I got when I finally went to their site to scope it out. Personally, I'm quite satisfied with the answers I've gotten so far. Is it enough to make me want to rush out and buy a set? No. But can I at least see why somebody else would? Sure. If nobody ever played a little devil's advocate, we'd never get these answers, nowwould we? Part of having an actual fair & balanced conversation is exploring the unexplored and representing the underrepresented. |
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver If nobody ever played a little devil's advocate, we'd never get these answers, nowwould we? Part of having an actual fair & balanced conversation is exploring the unexplored and representing the underrepresented. |
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Germ, that was a typo (GFF). :DShould have been GWW, or Grey Wolf Woolens. Your interpratation was good though:D. Yep Rob, it's too big now, way too big:D.
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ORIGINAL: quiksilver Attack? Who is attacking? I'm giving you the floor to tell me why it's worth the price. So far, I've learned that: [ul][*]Since it's made in the USA, we have to pay more (understandable);[*]Since it's MTO, we have to pay more (understandable);[*]He's using a type of warp knit that isn't quite the same as the stuff commercially available elsewhere (good);[*]Better seams for increased durability (positive);[*]Burr-free and color retentive (good); and[*]Not as expensive as it seems at first glance, b/c no liner is needed (again, positive).[/ul] Conversely, we've learned that: [ul][*]It's still pretty damn expensive;[*]Warp knit polyester is available through many other avenues at a much lower price;[*]Pockets are extra;[*]Scent containment is extra;[*]Some people who have owned it have mixed feelings about buying it again;[*]There can be an extended wait time for GWW garments; and[*]You can buy similar DWR waterproofing treatments, and add it to your clothes on your own.[/ul] Greg - you're acting like I've murdered this man's entire family, poisoned his dogand tipped over his grandmother's wheelchair. Meanwhile, all I did was ask "why so damn expensive?" I feel like that's a very fair question, especially given how much we've heard about this camo (and how great it is) over the past couple years - and the sticker-shock that I got when I finally went to their site to scope it out. Personally, I'm quite satisfied with the answers I've gotten so far. Is it enough to make me want to rush out and buy a set? No. But can I at least see why somebody else would? Sure. If nobody ever played a little devil's advocate, we'd never get these answers, nowwould we? Part of having an actual fair & balanced conversation is exploring the unexplored and representing the underrepresented. |
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ORIGINAL: Greg / MO Picking out one senctence without the context of the following three or four is solid posting? Read the whole paragraph in MY post; THAT'S solid posting. Some of the members here have come toenjoy asarcastic or comical answer butfail to look further for the substance behind it. That line of thinking is just aserroneous as the thinking that continually pouring your money down the drain buying disposable clothing every few years for a 1/3 or even 1/4 of the price is saving you money. Plus, the bad thing about clothes is they deteriorate at a rapid pace. Whereas, something like a bow, watch, gun etc.. tends to actually hold their value. But let's be honest here: Holding value isn't the reason GWW has a loyal customer base. If I were concerned about "investments" and items I purchased holding value, I'd be purchasing gold -- or more realistically, I'd be investing in companies making a splash in the molecular diagnostic business in the hospital laboratory business. I don't understand why other posters feel the need to vehemently defend the aforementionedcompany. Perhaps that's why this was the most spot-on commentary of Quik's whole original post: At least once-a-day, somebody refers to it as the gold-standard in hunting clothing. If you do actually pass these pants to your son I doubt he will be asexhilarated as you're. Hey look everyone, my dad gave me some 20 year old pants, goodie!! Whereas, if you gave him your first 20 year oldbow you killed a deer with that could be something sentimental.You see, a gun, rifle or bow would actually hold its value IMHO.I'm gettting off on a tangent, but my point is these pants are overpriced. Oh well... I'm sure this could go on forever. I don't begrudge someone for buying anything, but it also doesn't mean I have to endorse it. Lastly, why do I have to own something to tell you it's overpriced? [&:] |
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Just to spite this thread, this morning I called up Jeff and ordered up two sets of wolfskin pants (one in Spring Green, one in Fall Brown, both with the extra pockets, double knees, and double butt), a wolfskin jacket, and two wolfskin hats. I'll post more when I get them in my hands. [8D]
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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer I don't understand why other posters feel the need to vehemently defend the aforementioned company. I can promise you there are things you own I would never spend money on but I wouldn't call you names for purchasing anything you wish with your own money. THAT IS SOLID POSTING! Also, it is important to understand that I have the right to think/call you a goober if you made a dumb purchase. You may not like it, but I call them like I see them. ;) |
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ORIGINAL: Rick James Just to spite this thread, this morning I called up Jeff and ordered up two sets of wolfskin pants (one in Spring Green, one in Fall Brown, both with the extra pockets, double knees, and double butt), a wolfskin jacket, and two wolfskin hats. I'll post more when I get them in my hands. [8D] While you're at it I have some Enron stock I would like to sell you too.:D:D |
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