Beman 400 carbon arrows
 

I was wondering if anyone had an opinion about beman arrows? I got a dozen this year for christmas to go with my new bow, but i'm not sure that i like them. I had shot them a lot this spring and they grouped pretty good, but i started noticing some inconsistency. At first i thought it was me, but i'm starting to think it might be the arrows.
I was broadhead tuning today (thanks to everyone for the great advice) and using one arrow (for fear of robin hoods) I finally got my bow shooting dead on. but when i threw my practice broad head on my other arrows they shot all over the place. Each arrow was consistent however... the arrow i was tuning with was consistently in the 10 ring, while another arrow would consistently hit at 2 o clock, but like five or six inches off center, and another was hitting at 3 o clock and also like five inches off center. I tried a couple different brands of broadheads and the arrows would all hit in their same respective spots.
The only thing i can imagine is that the shafts must be inconsistent. Correct me if i'm wrong but if it was a tuning issue, and the shafts were fine the arrows would be off target but they would at least be grouped together, right? I tried shooting the NAP Razorbaks i shot last year, and you can rotate the heads so the blades are aligned, so i don't think its a broadhead issue (not to mention all broadheads should fly consistently in a well tuned bow). So anyways i kinda wanted to vent and get some imput from you guys. i'm also thinking about buying new arrows now because i've lost all faith in these ones, so i was wondering if you guys had any recommendations and why? Thanks in advance and sorry for such a long post i'm just frustrated haha.

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The arrows I got from Walmart shot great with broadheads, Im guessing its your arrows also.

Test this buy numbering your arrows.
Shoot them and see if the same arrow is hitting the same spot.
If so, go get some new arrows

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Beman arrows are all I shoot. I've tried all the other brands (except PSE arrows) and Beman smoked every other brand.

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Did you spin test the arrows with broad heads before shooting????????

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Only problem with mine are they group too well. :D

From today:

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No i haven't spin tested them, is there a way to do it without any special equipment?

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What kind of rest do you have?

Try and turn the nock so you have a different fletching as a odd feather, I do this when I tune my broadheads and it always seems to help the arrow flight!!

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Yes if you have an old shoe box laying around cut a V in either end, place arrow in V and spin;)

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I shoot a whisker biscuit, i will try adjusting the nocks today, thanks

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what should i be looking for when i spin test them? sorry for all the questions but i've never had to do it before

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They are good arrows, but like any other brandof arrows you could have gotten some bad ones. It happens. I've tried a few brands and the only ones that I've had problems with is CarbonForce (PSE). They are accurate, but they seem to be very brittle. I've broken a few of them by just normal pulling them out of a target.

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To see if there is a wobble in either end of the arrow.

If you get a wobble on the BH end check again with another BH if you get a wobble at the nock end mark that arrow as a practice arrow or trash it.

You want all your broad head arrows to spin true.

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What you're experiencing could be a number of things. First, what's your draw weight and length, arrow length, broadhead weight? It's possible you're borderline on shaft stiftness and the broadhead characteristics put you over the line. Also, depending on what you're shooting into and how much you shoot, carbon arrows will loose their spine over time. When I shot Bemans everything in the charts told me 400's should do it. They shot just fine with fieldpoints. When I went to broadheads they were totally unexceptable. I switched to the 340's and the problems went away. I could have more than likely cured the problem with a lighter broadhead, but since I already owned about 2 dozen Thunderhead 125s I jut got new arrows. Of course the problem could also be your tune isn't correct, but they still should group somewhereeven if it wasn't exact.

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Try the 340's.Iam shooting 67# at 29" draw,100gr FP/BH'sand the 340s fly well too well sometimes[:@],this is my3rd year shooting Beman ICS 340 Hunters...I did try the 400's just because my friend shoots them and they flw like poop for me....you might be underspind for your set-up....Just a thought....

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I'm shooting like 68 ish pounds with a 29 inch draw and the arrows are 27.5 inches, I checked on the beman website and i am right on the line in terms of spine, so i think you guys might be right. Like i said i don't think its a tuning problem because even if it was out of tune the point of impact would be off but the arrows would still group...i think so anyways. I don't think its a form issue because each individual arrow groups fine, just no where near where the other arrows are grouping. I'm going to play with them a little more today and if i still can't get them right i am going to go to my bow shop this weekend and figure out a set up that will work. Thanks again guys

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What's your broadhead weight. Try this, back off your poundage about 5 pounds and see if it gets better.

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Yep you might br right at the borderline. As far as beman arrows its hard to beat a beman arrow.

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I shoot ICS Elite 400s, 62#, with a 100 gr broadhead. They group nice. One thing, I'm shooting G5 Montecs, and the three "practice heads" I picked up flew just plain crazy. I couldn't get the same one to hit in the same place twice. Started practicing with the broadheads, back to shooting at different spots for fear of damaging arrows. Maybe I just got a bad batch.

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I'm shooting 100 grain magnus four blade stingers. I shot a little more today and i managed to get a couple arrows grouping somewhat together.

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I have been shooting the BEMAN ICS Hunters for several years now... They, IMO, are a very well built, consistant, & durable arrow with a reasonable price tag. I have never had a problem with them.

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In really sorting and shooting and grading the Bemans I shot, I usually got 8 or 9 out of a dozen I called hunters. The other 3 or 4 were just not up to my standards. When I went to the Carbon Tech Whitetails with a straightness of .001 I found I usually got about 12 for 12.

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Beman ICS Hunter Elite 400s, straightness of .001. 12 out of 12 keepers on this first batch I'm using.

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I shoot the 400 grain Beman Camo Hunters....shoot well and blow right through deer.