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early in 08-05-2008 08:36 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
ORIGINAL: GMMAT

If you can only kill certain bucks, that lets"more" bucks live longer to spread desireable genes and help keep a closer buck to doe ratio.
What makes a 3.5yr old buck's genes more "desireable" than they were as a 1.5 yr old?;)
Smarts/experience!They live longer and pass on these traits through their genes.;)BTW, "earn a buck" would work well in my specific area where we have a TON of deer, and I'm all for it! However, in many regions of Pa that's not the answer because of low doe/deer numbers. It would have to be county specific here in Pa.

PreacherTony 08-05-2008 08:50 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

If you can only kill certain bucks, that lets"more" bucks live longer to spread desireable genes and help keep a closer buck to doe ratio.
What makes a 3.5yr old buck's genes more "desireable" than they were as a 1.5 yr old?;)
Smarts/experience!They live longer and pass on these traits through their genes.;)BTW, "earn a buck" would work well in my specific area where we have a TON of deer, and I'm all for it! However, in many regions of Pa that's not the answer because of low doe/deer numbers. It would have to be county specific here in Pa.
Early .... if they live longer because they outsmart hunters, I could see your point .... but if they live longer because they are not a viable target anymore ... then point lost and I am still confused ....

Germ 08-05-2008 09:02 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
Preach
No 1.5 deer out smarts a hunter:D They just get lucky;)

The other factor I like about AR's and it has been proven in PA is safty. Hunter's shooting hunters is down. One most check before trigger is pulled. I think OBR helps in the same way.

PreacherTony 08-05-2008 09:10 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
ORIGINAL: Germ

Preach
No 1.5 deer out smarts a hunter:D They just get lucky;)
I bet they get smart pretty quick ... if I was being hunted and someone nicked my arse with an arrow, (or put it in "the void"[8D]), I would learn something:D

Early made a statement about AR's allowing the smarter bucks to make it longer, thus improving the quality of the herd ...... that is what I was responding to ..... makes no sense top me

I think OBR helps in the same way.
Again ... not the sharpest tool in the shed [X(]..... what is "OBR"?

Germ 08-05-2008 09:26 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
One Buck Rule

I think after a 1.5 makes in through a season he's a little smarter. Even if not shot at he learns a thing or two;)

I do not think AR's make any deer smarter[8D]

early in 08-05-2008 09:35 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

If you can only kill certain bucks, that lets"more" bucks live longer to spread desireable genes and help keep a closer buck to doe ratio.
What makes a 3.5yr old buck's genes more "desireable" than they were as a 1.5 yr old?;)
Smarts/experience!They live longer and pass on these traits through their genes.;)BTW, "earn a buck" would work well in my specific area where we have a TON of deer, and I'm all for it! However, in many regions of Pa that's not the answer because of low doe/deer numbers. It would have to be county specific here in Pa.
Early .... if they live longer because they outsmart hunters, I could see your point .... but if they live longer because they are not a viable target anymore ... then point lost and I am still confused ....
If they are allowed to live longer as a result of AR's, they will have more encounters with hunters, giving them more experience in avoiding them. Does this still not make sense? With age comes experience, that's what I'm referring to.;)

GMMAT 08-05-2008 09:36 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
So its OK to tell a guy that he CAN’T shoot ANY buck, until he shoots a doe.
BUT it’s NOT OK to tell him that he CAN’T shoot a buck with X number of points.
Makes perfect sense. [&:]
When your herd dynamics are as ours are, Rybo......damn right its OK to tell him this.;)

GMMAT 08-05-2008 09:40 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
Jim:

You have 3 times the hunters we have......but we have damn near the same amount of deer. Change the bag limits.....and bring 'em on. We need some culling to occur.

EI:

Smarts/experience!They live longer and pass on these traits through their genes.;)
That 3.5 yr old buck's genes don't get "no smarter";)if they stay in his loins for 2 more years. He has the SAME genetic composition as a 1.5yr old as he will have as a 3.5 yr old.

That's why I asked you (and will, again) to explain your point.

early in 08-05-2008 09:42 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
ORIGINAL: GMMAT

So its OK to tell a guy that he CAN’T shoot ANY buck, until he shoots a doe.
BUT it’s NOT OK to tell him that he CAN’T shoot a buck with X number of points.
Makes perfect sense. [&:]
When your herd dynamics are as ours are, Rybo......damn right its OK to tell him this.;)
See Jeff, we can agree on some things. And I do, big time!;):D

Germ 08-05-2008 09:42 AM
RE: Antler Restiction programs ...are you for or against them?
 
Check post 165


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