Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
07-31-2008, 09:20 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
The fact that you refer to feeding bears or deer as baiting already establishes a negative mind set. As if "baiting" is somehow an unfair advantage. Bear and deer hunting is not a GAME it's part of the cycle of our predatory lives. If the wolf or coyote had the brains of a human to "bait" their prey, do you think they would?
07-31-2008, 09:26 PM
#12
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
Kyle there was a few post's made in HOGHUNTINGUNLIMITED's thread that really caught my attention. I'm sure one was just a shot at me but the comments from the others really had me wondering how and why they come to there conclusions. Do most of the people that make these comments do any bear hunting? Do they think its just like baiting deer? For the most part I think most people are way uneducated when it comes to this bait thing with bear. In most of the states that baiting isn't allowed, its that way because the anti hunters pushed for it and got it, not the hunters! Spring bear seasons are disappearing as well, again the anti's are the pushers there once again.
Baiting deer isn't a must one bit in Mn to be successful in shooting a deer. Baiting bear however is damn near a must. When your hunting bear in the northern woods of Mn you can't hardly see 10 yards in front of your face. It would damn near be impossible to sit on a "game trail" (I've never seen just a bear trail in a big woods without ag crops around the area) and hope a bear walks down it. Yes you could sit on a oats field or corn field but how many of them are on Public land in northern Mn, not one that I know of. Its all big woods up there. Most of these agriculture fields are all on private land.
Baiting deer isn't a must one bit in Mn to be successful in shooting a deer. Baiting bear however is damn near a must. When your hunting bear in the northern woods of Mn you can't hardly see 10 yards in front of your face. It would damn near be impossible to sit on a "game trail" (I've never seen just a bear trail in a big woods without ag crops around the area) and hope a bear walks down it. Yes you could sit on a oats field or corn field but how many of them are on Public land in northern Mn, not one that I know of. Its all big woods up there. Most of these agriculture fields are all on private land.
07-31-2008, 09:29 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
In Minnesota, it is legal to bait bear. However, it is illegal to bait deer. If both were legal, I'd still bait bear but I would not bait deer.
What is you're take on this? What do you think of bear baiting? Without baiting, not many bears would be killed
If both were legal in you're state, would you bait only bear, only deer, or both? Bear only
Why? Baiting deer is allowed where I hunt. I would rather not have baiting. There are many reasons I would like baiting ended. Too many to type them all out.
Do you believe baiting bear is unethical? No
Does anyone live in a state where baiting bear is legal, and do not partake in this precedure? If I was a bear hunter I would at some point try to take one without baiting.
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
My farm is surrounded by swamps, and they don't often leave them. To shoot a bear without bait would be near impossible. They do roll in corn fields oncein a GREAT while but this is usually at night, or out of season.
Just curious, really. I don't plan on changing my ways
As it should be!
In Minnesota, it is legal to bait bear. However, it is illegal to bait deer. If both were legal, I'd still bait bear but I would not bait deer.
What is you're take on this? What do you think of bear baiting? Without baiting, not many bears would be killed
If both were legal in you're state, would you bait only bear, only deer, or both? Bear only
Why? Baiting deer is allowed where I hunt. I would rather not have baiting. There are many reasons I would like baiting ended. Too many to type them all out.
Do you believe baiting bear is unethical? No
Does anyone live in a state where baiting bear is legal, and do not partake in this precedure? If I was a bear hunter I would at some point try to take one without baiting.
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
My farm is surrounded by swamps, and they don't often leave them. To shoot a bear without bait would be near impossible. They do roll in corn fields oncein a GREAT while but this is usually at night, or out of season.
Just curious, really. I don't plan on changing my ways
As it should be!
07-31-2008, 09:30 PM
#14
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
Baiting is what it is.
The fact you refer to baiting as feeding, makes it sound like it isn't there for a purpose other than nutrition. I put out a BAIT to KILL a bear. I lure the bear in.
It isn't an unfair advantage, but it sure puts the odds in you're corner.
And yes, a wolf or coyote would bait their prey, I'm glad they don't.
Food or other lure placed on a hook or in a trap and used in the taking of fish, birds, or other animals
It isn't an unfair advantage, but it sure puts the odds in you're corner.
And yes, a wolf or coyote would bait their prey, I'm glad they don't.
07-31-2008, 09:37 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
My farm is surrounded by swamps, and they don't often leave them. To shoot a bear without bait would be near impossible.
07-31-2008, 09:54 PM
#16
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
I didn't[8D]
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
My farm is surrounded by swamps, and they don't often leave them. To shoot a bear without bait would be near impossible.
07-31-2008, 10:03 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
I don't want to split hairs but yes you did!......... And later you contradicted yourself
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
I didn't[8D]
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
I believe baiting bear in Minnesota, where I live would be the ONLY way to kill a bear. Never say never!
My farm is surrounded by swamps, and they don't often leave them. My farm is surrounded by swamps, and they don't often leave them. To shoot a bear without bait would be near impossible.
But I believe:
My farm is surrounded by swamps, and they don't often leave them. To shoot a bear without bait would be near impossible. (here)
You got me with semantics. Damn.
08-01-2008, 04:56 AM
#19
Typical Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
we can bait bear in Maine but not deer. I have never tried but plan to in the future. Many good people in maine make their living guiding hunters for bear over bait. About two years ago their was a referendum on the ballot to outlaw baiting bear. Alot of money from out of state came in to help pass the law. The referendum failed, but by a very little margin. It wasn't until then did i realize how important this practice is and how many people provide for their families baiting bear.In MAine we have big woods and even baiting is no guarantee you are going to harvest a black bear.
08-01-2008, 06:49 AM
#20
Dominant Buck
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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
In Minnesota, it is legal to bait bear. However, it is illegal to bait deer. If both were legal, I'd still bait bear but I would not bait deer.
We can't baitbears in my state.....yet they're killed by hunters, every year (heaviest bear ever came from my state.....and we grow some WHOPPERS, here).
They can't bait them in VA....but a buddy of mine just sent me photos of the 2nd one he's had taxidermied in the last 3 seasons (both bowkills
).Its NOT "impossible". Will it make you have to HUNT for them, though? You have answer that one for yourself.
Answer the question in bold, underlined (above).....and you'll answer your own question.
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