RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

that fits my answer to a tee ....

RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

But do they affect your "success", PT? Not worrying about whether you care or not. Do they?

WHat good are all of your measures......if someone is undermining them?

I'm assuming if you're "part" of a lease......and you have no higher standing than anyone else.....this "could" be an issue.

RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

BTW Jeff ...... you can use those guys that don't hunt like you to your advantage ..... I have killed MANY MANY deer, knowing they will be up and walking around across the street ;)

RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

see above post ... it absolutely affects it ... to the good if I use it that way .... I hunt across the street .... they end up walking around around 11, and the deer almost always run across right to me .. mpst of the times, they never see them. I always see more deer than all the guys I hunt with, partly for this reason ...

RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

GMMAT---I have NO control over the people that hunt around me on the military base I hunt. For that very reason, I look for places that no other fool in the world would venture in order to at least maintain some amount of control. In fact, I just hiked out about 1.5 miles into the woods this morning on a jog/hike in order to find an entrance way for one of the spots I hunt. I am going to be using my kayak to get across a lake to hunt a swamp/creek area that is at least one mile from any known trail. That to me is eliminating as much of the negative risk factor from other hunters as possible.

Here is an example of how people have screwed things up for me this past year. I had a great place pegged that I saw a big 8 point the second to last day of season two years ago. I didn't hunt the bedding area the entire year until the first week of November. I moved in and set up on some large rubs and a scrape. I did not see a thing. I got down and scouted for a bit around the perimeter. Someone had put up about 3 tons of surveying tape to mark their route in and out (probably without gloves). They also left food containers and a can of "buck bomb" lying on the ground. I hunted that place one more time last year and saw nothing again.

RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

Yes, there is someone our group that, for example, does not practice the same scent control or pay attention to the wind before selecting a stand. Fortunately, he only hunts out of 2 or three stand locations. Once he's been in those stands, I dont' go back.

On the positive side of that, I've been able to locate the areas the deer use to get around his stands.

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I am on a lease that for the most part all are good hunters, we have 1200 acres with 9 of us hunting it. A few of the guys are gun only hunters and I would say that they affect it a lot. Not in a bad way though, like PT said they push deer to me, I am lucky I have the biggest section of land to the tune of 400acresto myself, it is in the very back of the property that is the most remote as well as the thickest woods on the ranch. We all have our sections that we hunt and it doesn't change, they don't enter my section and I don't enter theirs...Works out for me well being all the way in the back of the place, if they leave their stand early, go in smelling like a good ol camp fire or anything along those lines the deer have but one direction to head....To me!!!!!!! Nobody else hunts my stands, so that is not an issue in our set up....This particular group of guys are all management minded and we have created rules to abide by in that area, so we don't have any issues there either...Works out pretty good, all in all....

RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

I don't share hunting properties with my buddies except maybe for one day out of the season we'll hunt together usually on their private land. If I had my own property it would be no problem.

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its kindve hard hunting with friends because there thoughts of a big mature buck and our thoughts of a big maturebuck is way different and so we can only hunt with honest trustworthy friends who respect our property and respect our management rules...........just last year we had this happen, one of our friends from nebraska came down and shot a year and a half old 10 point that scored around 80-100". he said that when it came running by his stand it looked huge[:'(] he then said he didnt want it because it was so small,and thats why he wont hunt on our land again![:@]

RE: Hunting buddies.......Things you can't control?
 

This is very similar to what I deal with. I would love to put my dad in a position to kill a real nice PA buck, and if he'd just tidy up a few things in the way he hunts, I could probably put him in position to shoot a nice buck with his bow. He's never really killed anything nice. But I don't want to kill both our chances, the property isn't big enough, and the nice buck chances are too few to take shortcuts. A little bit of tact, along with him getting lazy in his age, has helped minimize the areas he goes into and hunts.