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Vabowman 07-22-2008 08:28 AM

Slick trick , wow!
 
I just shot my 100 gr slick tricks standards and all I have to say is wow!!! They fly better than field points. I shot out to 30 yds and bulls eye every shot. Great heads and compact to my surprise, I was n't expecting them to be so small. I mean the 1" cut is there, but the furell is small. One question though....I shoot the Axis arrows and I do have the BH adapter rings for these arrows, but didn't see where it would help. Do I need the those rings for these heads on these arrows?? Anyone know??

MeanV2 07-22-2008 09:05 AM

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Wait to you put a hole in something!:DI have shot the Mags mostly and they have been nothing short of Awesome! Best replaceable blade broadhead I have used in 40 years of Bowhunting.

This year I am thinking of trying the new Grizz Trick!!

Dan

bloodcrick 07-22-2008 09:16 AM

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VA thats a head i have not tried YET but here nothing but good about them. Im looking forward to your opinion when you send one through a hide ;)

Vabowman 07-22-2008 09:23 AM

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man Im telling you Blood, they fly better than a FP and are so stable in flight it's hard to believe. I was like , ain't no way this head fly this great, I shot like 4-5 times more and it never changed. Good bye Muzzy!! You were great, but you don't fly like that!

hatchet jack 07-22-2008 09:26 AM

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I switched from Muzzys to ST 4 years ago and I never looked back.Great head

Hatchet Jackass

YooperMike 07-22-2008 09:38 AM

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I shoot them with my FMJs and don't use any adapters. You should be fine I think. Great head choice, you won't be sorry! Besides the great flight, they are tough as hell, killed two and a coon with the same head two years ago. I was sad when it was done, seemed to be a little lucky for me. I still use the ferrule, but the blades had to be retired due to an unfortunate incident with a rock.

PreacherTony 07-22-2008 10:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Vabowman

man Im telling you Blood, they fly better than a FP and are so stable in flight it's hard to believe. I was like , ain't no way this head fly this great, I shot like 4-5 times more and it never changed. Good bye Muzzy!! You were great, but you don't fly like that!
VA ... how on earth can they fly BETTER than a field point???????????????? I believe they fly great ... but better?

Matt / PA 07-22-2008 10:25 AM

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VA ... how on earth can they fly BETTER than a field point???????????????? I believe they fly great ... but better?
It's that phenomenon called "New Toy Perception" whether it's bows, sights, arrows, or whatever :D

........When you go from a broadhead that doesn't fly exactly like your field points to one that DOES it makes a guy's mind react with almost amazement that they actually hit exactly where he's aiming. LOL ;)
Slick Tricks are one of the few replaceable blade fixed heads that I've shot that fly with my field points out of a purposely out of tune bow. I took that same bow and tried to shoot a Muzzy MX-4 alongside for comparison and it looked like I was throwing paper airplanes.

GMMAT 07-22-2008 10:37 AM

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Slick Tricks are one of the few replaceable blade fixed heads that I've shot that fly with my field points out of a purposely out of tune bow.
Which is why (IMO) "some" people shoot them (and mechanicals, also, in general).

Is this a good thing?[8D]

Matt / PA 07-22-2008 10:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Slick Tricks are one of the few replaceable blade fixed heads that I've shot that fly with my field points out of a purposely out of tune bow.
Which is why (IMO) "some" people shoot them (and mechanicals, also, in general).

Is this a good thing?[8D]
Not really but it does also depend on the amount a bow is out of tune and what the arrow will be doing at impact........arrows with broadheads that behave like field points self correct pretty quickly out of bows that are only slightly out of tune. They can get going straight relatively quickly.

However there are a good number of broadheads depending on fletching size and style of course that will magnify even slight tuning issues and cause erratic flight.

A badly out of tune bow, one that you can visually SEE even field point arrows whipping around is the worst case scenario........some of these inherently accurate broadheads will still fly pretty darn consistently, the problem lies in what the arrow is doing and the direction of its force and momentum on impact that is the issue.
THOSE are the true band-aid shooters and the ones doing themselves a serious disservice by simply finding a broadhead that flies where they want it to go without regard for what it will do when it gets there.

We should all strive to get those arrows flying tip over tail from the second they leave the bow. It will maximize the performance potential of ANY broadhead and not create a sense of false confidence in the fact that your broadheads are at least flying very close to your field points. That doesnt necessarily mean they are flying STRAIGHTwhich createsthe best penetration possible on any given hit.

formula1 07-22-2008 11:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Slick Tricks are one of the few replaceable blade fixed heads that I've shot that fly with my field points out of a purposely out of tune bow.
Which is why (IMO) "some" people shoot them (and mechanicals, also, in general).

Is this a good thing?[8D]
Not having a tuned bow may not be a good thing perhaps, but having accurate broadheads has got to be a good thing, unless you are the quarry, IMHO!:D

Hoyt_Viper 07-22-2008 11:22 AM

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Landon, Is 1" the largest cut that ST has? I have seen them, and agree that they are well put together and have serious bone busting ability, but I prefer something with at least 1 1/2" or 2" cut to maximize damage to lungs, heart, liver...etc.

***Sorry about your camera*** Does superglue work? :(

GMMAT 07-22-2008 11:28 AM

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Not having a tuned bow may not be a good thing perhaps, but having accurate broadheads has got to be a good thing, unless you are the quarry, IMHO!:D
What I was eluding to formula......is the phenomenon where your arrow is not flying true.....but still hitting where you're looking. It could cause a loss of KE at the POI.....even though your arrow was flying exactly like your FP.

THAT is why I say that "some" shoot mechanicals as a "band-aid" to mask tuning issues. Not all.....by ANY stretch.....but with a mech......KE is so much more important.

That's all.

Vabowman 07-22-2008 11:45 AM

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I don't really know that they fly better I was just being silly, but they do seem to fly very well. Yall need to quit taking some things too literally. :DI don't know what else to do. I mean im shooting well, i have paper tuned, though I know some of you don't think that's efficient, but the arrow flies well to me and it hits hard and drives deep into the target, what else is there??? IM not going to obsess about it, never have before and ain't going to now.

formula1 07-22-2008 12:08 PM

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What I was eluding to formula......is the phenomenon where your arrow is not flying true.....but still hitting where you're looking. It could cause a loss of KE at the POI.....even though your arrow was flying exactly like your FP.

THAT is why I say that "some" shoot mechanicals as a "band-aid" to mask tuning issues. Not all.....by ANY stretch.....but with a mech......KE is so much more important.

That's all.
You are indeed correct, sir, and I agree with your analysis. I was simply aluding to the fact that the poorly tuned bow that some use is the issue, not the choice of head per se. I have found though some heads are rather pesky to get right though.

I'd be willing to bet you can shoot several different heads with good accuracy from your bow, indicating a good tune. BTW, good hunting this year!!

virginiashadow 07-22-2008 12:10 PM

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This post makes me want to think hard about switching over from muzzy's....

NEW61375 07-22-2008 12:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: virginiashadow

This post makes me want to think hard about switching over from muzzy's....
Muzzy's are so early 90's, kinda like MC hammer and C&C Music Factory, you should really move on. JK VA:D;)

PreacherTony 07-22-2008 12:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vabowman

I don't really know that they fly better I was just being silly, but they do seem to fly very well. Yall need to quit taking some things too literally. :DI don't know what else to do. I mean im shooting well, i have paper tuned, though I know some of you don't think that's efficient, but the arrow flies well to me and it hits hard and drives deep into the target, what else is there??? IM not going to obsess about it, never have before and ain't going to now.
You said it twice, that's the only reason I posted anything ;)

As far as what's left to do ......... just keep shooting and get ready to fill your freezer :)

Vabowman 07-22-2008 12:20 PM

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LMAO!! NEW..

Vabowman 07-22-2008 12:22 PM

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Will do PT, I just get excited like Matt said.

PreacherTony 07-22-2008 12:24 PM

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I could never get muzzys to fly close to my heads past 30 yards ..... after shooting the magnus stinger ...... it was a no brainer .... I would shoot the slick tricks for that same reason .....if my bow is marginally out of tune .... who cares then

mauser06 07-22-2008 12:25 PM

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good to hear VA...i think im going to switch from 125gr muzzys to 125gr slick trick mags...going to keep a few muzzys and tune with them...and keep atleast 1 in the quiver...

Vabowman 07-22-2008 12:35 PM

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Don't get me wrong, Muzzy's have been a great head and I ve killed many deer with em, but I have never seen a BH fly so fast and hard like a dart like this one.

PABuckbuster12 07-22-2008 12:51 PM

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Vabow: Did you ever get an answer to the adapter rings if they benefit you in any way?



WesternMdHardwoods 07-22-2008 01:29 PM

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Vabow~ Hate to say I told you so............!!;)[:-]

Vabowman 07-22-2008 04:19 PM

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PABuck, yeh Im gonna use them for mine, you probably will be fine without them, but I chose to use them. they are only a few bucks for a dozen. I don't even know if you need them for the FMJ. They only weigh 2 gr so it's no issue with extra weight.

virginiashadow 07-22-2008 04:51 PM

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"Muzzys are so the 90's".....Whats wrong with the 90's, I was an athlete, I still had my hair, I wasn't in debt....Long live the Muzzy's!

MeanV2 07-22-2008 05:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vabowman

PABuck, yeh Im gonna use them for mine, you probably will be fine without them, but I chose to use them. they are only a few bucks for a dozen. I don't even know if you need them for the FMJ. They only weigh 2 gr so it's no issue with extra weight.
I choose to use them on the Axis series shafts also. IMO it's a little better even if it is not absolutely necessary.

Id rather the BAR take the pressure as the end of my shaft.;)

Dan

Vabowman 07-22-2008 05:09 PM

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I hear yaBrett!! I have been shooting all day in increments trying to find which arrows don't fly well with the heads, I have not found one yet. I have been doing my usual torquing to the left deal, but that's me not the heads, I was doing it with the fp too.


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