Getting Boadheads to fly right
 

i was told today that when you get a muzzy screwed down all the way into the insert if you line the blades up with the vanes they will fly better is this true?
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RE: Getting Boadheads to fly right
 

Absolutely not, there is absolutely no correlation to arrow flight and broadhead alignment.

I should clearify, not 3 or 4 blade anyway. Think of it this way, how do you get 4 blade Muzzys aligned with 3 fletch. I know some traditional shooters prefer the 2 blades to start vertical and some horizontal I think, I'm no traditional guy. ;)

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I have heard the same, but to be honest, unless your bow is set up correctly, consistent flight is never guaranteed. I don't shoot muzzy's but my G5s fly true regardless of how the vanes and blades are aligned. I will admit, certain alignments will get a little better result, but not enough to make me concerned. Best of luck.

Kelly

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Just stop and think about it for a second. The key to good broadhead flight beyond the bow is to have the arrow spinning as fast as possible as well as the getting it spinning immediately out of the bow. Obviously if it's not spinning there will be planing.

If the arrow is spinning the alignment of the fletch to blade is irrelevant.

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But I am a TRADITIONAL guy...well atleast part-time. LOL

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but is there anything i could do to get my broadheads to fly straighter instead of sighting in my bow for my broadheads...? i shoot very accuratly with field points and when i put on a muzzy and i shoot it at a target it is always off and i dont get it any tips?
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The funny thing about field tips is that you can shoot rather well without having a well tuned bow. I'd say put on the field tips and paper tune. If that doesn't help, do a search on tuning on the tech forum.

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I have never shot Muzzy's. I've heard too many weird things about them to bother.

I have shot Thunderheads, like thousands of other guys have. Thunderheads are awesome but always flew just a hair low, no matter what I did.

Then I switched to Magnus Stingers and won't look back. Stingers fly so accurate, they are like a heat seeking missle! [8D] The only trick I did with mine was use the tiny rubber O ring from the leftover box of Thunderheads, and used that on the Stingers. That way, I can get them just snug enough and also be able to get them aligned vertical with the bow string.

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my first question is have you spin tested your arrows? Do they spin true?

My second question is at what speed are your arrows flying? Sometimes faster flying arrows with fixed blade heads have a tendency to plane and fly off course. What I have found this starts to become an issue possibly at 280 to 290fps especially if your bow is not tuned well.

RE: Getting Boadheads to fly right
 

if you have not downloaded the Easton tuning manual. Do so it has lots of good tuning tips. it can be downloaded from Easton archery's website

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how do you paper tune i have heard of it but never was taught how or told was it was...
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i just got this hoyt that i shoot and it was brand new so shouldnt it be tuned already?
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Like I said before if you download this tuning guide it should be able to answer your questions. Here is a link to download it:
http://home.att.net/~sajackson/tuning_guide.html

When we say tune, it pertains to your particular setup. Your arrows, broadheads your draw length and your draw weight and your shooting style. you and I may have the exact same setup, but my shooting style is a bit different and cause me to do some different things tuning wise.

As far as your bow being tuned from the factory, it is NOT tuned. It is in spec. but NOT tuned. ONLY you can tune your bow. No one else can do it for you since like I stated before shooting styles vary.

Just take some time to read through the easton tuning guide. Trust me it should explain things very well for you. Also I suggest printing it out and keeping it very handy. Trust me you will find yourself refering to it many times.

RE: Getting Boadheads to fly right
 

Lining vanes up with your broadhead blades is a waste of time! IMO;)

Dan

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Like stated if your bow is tuned right there will be very little difference with broadhead flight. The only time i have ever had this to be true was when i used to shoot straight fletch back in the late 80's. I had to align my three blade with the fletch to get good flight. It was a trend back then and i dont recomend straight fletch.

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I believe it to be awaste of time also, if you only have one hunting arrow.
How canblade/vane alignment be correct for all shaft lengths andall vane offsetsetc?
There would have to be an exact position for every set-up with shaft rotationbeing examined wouldn't there?
Ireckon ifeveryone on this site aligned blades with vanes andshot through paperthen watched a slow motionvideo with 100 frames per second or so (don't quote me, I don't know a thing about photography but you get the point) the chances of everyones vanes passing through the same slit cut by the blade (cutting the same path)would bepretty slim.
I can seehoweverthat people would align them for the purpose of having all broadheads aligned consistantly the same way on all shafts-be it inline with vanes or not.

Who knows, but that's how I see it anyway.

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I've read before, that an arrow going 250 fps is making one complete turn every 3 feet. The broadhead blades and the fletches are not going to cut through the same piece of air, so it doesn't matter if they are aligned. I've had good luck with a paper tuned bow and Slick Trick standards with Blazers or 3'' feathers. The Blades were not aligned with the fletch, cause there were 4 blades and 3 fletches. With the same bow and arrows the Muzzy 4 blade did not fly so good. Some broadheads fly better than others. The more or bigger blades you have, the more the broadhead will try to steer the arrow. Think of broadhead blades as fletching on the front of the arrow that competes with the fletching on the rear. A compact head offers less surface area and reduces the chance of wind plane.

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That can't be "the rule". The rate of rotation per feet will vary depending on amount of helical/offset, the more helical, the faster spin rate, and obviosuly the less helical/offset, the slower the rotational rate.

I'd be curioushuntinman23, do your arrows with broadheads group? or are they all over the place?

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Well if it doesn’t help than my guess would be that it could hurt either, right? It doesn’t take any extra time to align them up so I’d suggest trying it to see if it helps your set up. Be sure to spin them to see if you need to tune your broad heads. My bow guy made up his own jig for tuning broad heads and it one slick pieces of equipment.My broad headfight before and after him tuning my arrows was very noticable. I had arrow tips / inserts that were so off you should have seen it without put the micrometer to it.

RE: Getting Boadheads to fly right
 

Bows don't come tuned just because they are new. You have to make adjustments to get things flying perfectly. As already stated, you can't go wrong with the easton tuning manual.