RE: How I hunt the wind
 

Comparing what my nose can detect to what a deer can smell is like comparing road kill to a T bone. It just doesn't wash to me.
In my mind as long as you are breathing air you are stinking the place up.
If you care to test the effectiveness of this spray,here's how I did it.
I hunt birds with a golden retriver he has a pretty good nose. If you walk into the woods and pick up a random stick and throw it he will find it in very short order by the scent thatI left on it in the second or twoI held it before throwing it.
Take another stick pick it up spray it all you want and I'll bet dollars to donuts he finds it with very little trouble. Been there done that.[:-]
It might fool you but just like fishing lures,they don't have tocatch fish just fishermen.;)

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

I never said that scent killers or scent blocking clothing hurt. One absolute positive about them is that they will boost your confidence. Confidence is an important part of success.

What I said was....... No matter what you do, if the wind is perfect for the deer, they'll still smell you.

I have nothing against these products, I just don't use them. Instead, I hunt a stand location with a wind that makes it impossible for them to detect me. I guess I'm a throw back from the olden days, before the advent of these products, and just learned how to hunt deer without them.

If I remember correctly, I believe that Shed33 sent me a scent killing product as part of my prize for winning the big buck contest. I will try it and see what I think. Who knows?? Maybe I'll become an outspoken advocate for these products once I see the dramatic increase in my success!!

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

But you don't get the picture.

If it works some, that's good enough for me. Sure I still have to breath but I'm certainly reducing some scent and at times, that's just enough. The deer I hunt, most deer accept SOME human odor or they'd die running as it's in the air is it not, especially around any urban setting. The deer may still wind me but not think I'm close enough to be danger.

It's the same for us, if you have a faint wiff of skunk, you think oh okay, skunk but if it hits you and makes your eyes water you start looking around for the skunk knowing danger is near. No different to a whitetail.

I don't care what any of you say, I've seen what I've seen and a couple dollars a year won't break me.

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

I agree with this ..... Greg stated that he doesn't touch anything going into his stand .... I have practiced that for many years .... I would see guys all juiced up with their scentloc on and they walk in with bare hands, pushing branches away!!! That is a no no .... so here's my point ... if it helps a little .... then it's worth it! If it can removde the smell of gas from your hands, and it can, it will WITHOUT A DOUBT remove at the very least, SOME of the odor left by you when you walk and sit in your stand.

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

Bawanajim, I didn't say that they were better than scent lok, never even mentioned scent lok. I agree with you Greg that they will smell you no matter what if the wind is in their favor. I just use it b/c it does cut down on my scent. and it makes me feel better:D

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

I'm with Greg on this if you feel it helps and adds to your confidence then use it. I just don't feel its worth me carrying the bottle around.
If a deer is within twenty yards of you and gets the mildest whiff of man scent he will be gone before you can see his shadow disappear.[:-]

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

That's where I disagree, the deer may or may not be gone. That's where I've had deer wind me, become alert but not blow and go and that's the difference

Zero scent control = blow and go

Some scent control just may be enough to loose an arrow and that's good enough for me.

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

Jim:

If that deer smells you and KNOWS you're 20yds away......I agree.

If he thinks you're 1/4 mi. away......but you're really only 20yds away.....then the $9 I spent for the season's worth of e3 just paid off huge.

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

I agree with Rob 100% . Bawanajim, do you seriously not think it works at all. You don't think it cuts down on scent/? I mean it is impossible to be totally scent free, but if you guys hunt the wind and use no cover scent what do you do if the wind changes and/or starts to swirl?? is your hunt done?

RE: How I hunt the wind
 

Worst case scenario. What is the downside to using these products?

Well for me, it isn't the money, but the annoyance and time involved in spraying everything down.

Granted, if I thought it was truly effective, it would be time well spent, but since my observations when using the product as compared to my observations without the use of the product is negligible, I don't want to waste that extra 5 minutes spraying down.

Call me lazy, but I am already trying to squeeze every minute I can get into the woods between work and family obligations, and I would rather spend that time getting in to my stand that much earlier, albeit only minutes.

To me, especially in the afternoon on weekdayswhen I am barely getting in on time to begin with, a few extra minutes earlier to the stand have a much bigger positive impact on successthan spraying down with a product that is marginable at best.

I like to keep things simple. I clear trails pre-season for easy entry/exit and to minimize the scent left behind. Other than that, I just liketo grab my bow, headlight, and bow rope and go hunt.