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buckmaster 07-15-2008 06:19 PM
My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
Remember this thread??

http://www.hunting.net/forum/tm.aspx?m=2839333&mpage=1

Well now it's bearing fruit... does this help any? It has the early greenish stage i mentioned in the other thread...

Got any ideas now guys??

early in 07-15-2008 06:36 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
Didn't we say that was persimmon?:eek:

buckmaster 07-15-2008 06:44 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
IM no expert... but i see absolutly NO resembelence(sp)...

early in 07-15-2008 06:49 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
That secondpic you're showing is of a ripe fruit. The first one's aren't.I'm looking at the leaves, and they look a lot like persimmon leaves.
Do the fuit turn a pale orange in the summer?

buckmaster 07-15-2008 06:52 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
unripePersimmon...



pigiron 07-15-2008 06:56 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
I'm positivethat is a callery pear in a sort of wild state(lack of trimming and the presence of thorns). The fruit is common on most pears, and is inconspicuous. They won't get much bigger before they fall or become bird feed. The fall color should be a crimson red/orange.

early in 07-15-2008 06:58 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: pigiron

I'm positivethat is a callery pear in a sort of wild state(lack of trimming and the presence of wicked thorns). The fruit is common on most pears, and is inconspicuous. They won't get much bigger before they fall or become bird feed.
Callery pear's do not have thorns at all!:eek:

pigiron 07-15-2008 07:00 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: pigiron

I'm positivethat is a callery pear in a sort of wild state(lack of trimming and the presence of wicked thorns). The fruit is common on most pears, and is inconspicuous. They won't get much bigger before they fall or become bird feed.
Callery pear's do not have thorns at all!:eek:

A:Callery pear, Pyrus calleryana, is an ornamental pear that can have wicked thorns. The fruit is small and inedible. It is the parent from which 'Bradford' pear was selected in 1963. A callery pear looks similar to 'Bradford', but the thorns distinguish one from the other. Under the right conditions, 'Bradford' pear seeds will germinate. The resulting trees will usually have varying numbers of thorns and less dense

:eek:

buckmaster 07-15-2008 07:13 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 


The leaves dont match up... but the fruit is IDENTICAL... Quick mentioned the Callery pear in the last post also...;)I appreciate the help from all you guys, ya'll know your stuff.

live2Draw 07-15-2008 07:13 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
are they sticky, the fruits that is?

kinda looks like a paw paw

pigiron 07-15-2008 07:21 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
Buckmaster, what you have there is a pear tree my friend. I've grown them, sold them, and chopped many up up due to their weak bark and short life span. That close-up of the fruit and the ovalleaf structure is a dead ringer. I've seen many in the semi-wild state with tremendous thorns. Damn things will go right through one of your fingers if your not careful cutting them up.

Snood Slapper 07-15-2008 07:24 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: live2Draw

are they sticky, the fruits that is?

kinda looks like a paw paw
Definitely not a paw paw. We have them in the wild here, plus I grow them. Thier fruit is oblong and the leaves are much larger.

treboryerf 07-15-2008 07:27 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
that is not persimmons.looks like minature pears to me.Persimmons trees need more than a single tree to germinate and produce fruit,thats why when you find one there is another one close by.

early in 07-15-2008 07:36 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: pigiron

Buckmaster, what you have there is a pear tree my friend. I've grown them, sold them, and chopped many up up due to their weak bark and short life span. That close-up of the fruit and the ovalleaf structure is a dead ringer. I've seen many in the semi-wild state with tremendous thorns. Damn things will go right through one of your fingers if your not careful cutting them up.
You need to look into this more closely. Callery pear and bradford pears do not have thorns. I've trimmed and taken down probably hundreds of them over 30 years doing tree work. Believe me, they don't have thorns. They grow them as street trees all over my region. They are weak tree's that growtoo quickly. Like I say, look in to it more and then shoot me a PM.;)

live2Draw 07-15-2008 07:38 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: Snood Slapper
ORIGINAL: live2Draware they sticky, the fruits that is?kinda looks like a paw paw
Definitely not a paw paw. We have them in the wild here, plus I grow them. Thier fruit is oblong and the leaves are much larger.
the ones I used to have in my backyard were round. But still deff paw paw, yummy bannana tasty. They were planted there though, so they might have been some freaks cause I dont think they belong in NE ohio.

Snood Slapper 07-15-2008 07:50 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: live2Draw

ORIGINAL: Snood Slapper
ORIGINAL: live2Draware they sticky, the fruits that is?kinda looks like a paw paw
Definitely not a paw paw. We have them in the wild here, plus I grow them. Thier fruit is oblong and the leaves are much larger.
the ones I used to have in my backyard were round. But still deff paw paw, yummy bannana tasty. They were planted there though, so they might have been some freaks cause I dont think they belong in NE ohio.
Sure they belong there! They are the largest fruit native to North America, and Ohio is a well known Paw Paw hotbed. I know you have a huge festival in the SE and a Ohio Paw Paw Grower's association. Never seen round ones, but it is possible there is a variety I've never seen. But, I have seen some sickly trees that don't produce well have smaller, rounder fruits if they don't get good drainage or nutriants.

grneyemonstr 07-15-2008 07:50 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
could they be kumquats?

pigiron 07-15-2008 08:04 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: pigiron

Buckmaster, what you have there is a pear tree my friend. I've grown them, sold them, and chopped many up up due to their weak bark and short life span. That close-up of the fruit and the ovalleaf structure is a dead ringer. I've seen many in the semi-wild state with tremendous thorns. Damn things will go right through one of your fingers if your not careful cutting them up.
You need to look into this more closely. Callery pear and bradford pears do not have thorns. I've trimmed and taken down probably hundreds of them over 30 years doing tree work. Believe me, they don't have thorns. They grow them as street trees all over my region. They are weak tree's that growtoo quickly. Like I say, look in to it more and then shoot me a PM.;)

Callery pear has escaped from cultivation in 25 states and is reported as new to California, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, and West Virginia.

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[/align]I don't mean to keep going back and forth but.......I to am positive.:DThe wild version is very common in overgrown lots and fields. As a wintertime business when I was young, I cut the branches, put them in bundles,and wouldforce the buds to near bloom. There was a high demand for them in the New York flower district on 27th street.

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early in 07-15-2008 08:26 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: pigiron

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: pigiron

Buckmaster, what you have there is a pear tree my friend. I've grown them, sold them, and chopped many up up due to their weak bark and short life span. That close-up of the fruit and the ovalleaf structure is a dead ringer. I've seen many in the semi-wild state with tremendous thorns. Damn things will go right through one of your fingers if your not careful cutting them up.
You need to look into this more closely. Callery pear and bradford pears do not have thorns. I've trimmed and taken down probably hundreds of them over 30 years doing tree work. Believe me, they don't have thorns. They grow them as street trees all over my region. They are weak tree's that growtoo quickly. Like I say, look in to it more and then shoot me a PM.;)

Callery pear has escaped from cultivation in 25 states and is reported as new to California, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, and West Virginia.

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Open Grown Wild Callery Pear

[/align]Studies suggest that the species is rapidly becoming invasive in much of its horticultural range in the eastern United States. Some of the escaped trees appear to be of hybrid origin, perhaps between callery pear and P. betulifolia or P. bretschneideri. Gallery pear often produces thorny thickets as it escapes into marginal and disturbed areas, and appears to be reproducing readily in the wild.

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[/align]It is the wild version of callery Early-in.

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[/align]I don't mean to keep going back and forth but.......I too am positive.:DThe wild version is very common in overgrown lots and fields. As a wintertime business when I was young, I cut the branches, put them in bundles,and wouldforce the buds to near bloom. There was a high demand for them in the New York flower district on 27th street.

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Then what you are talking about is some kind of a hybrid, because the common callery pear has no thorns. I'm not BSing when I tell you I've worked on hundreds of these tree's and never seen thorns on any of them. This tree is closely related to the bradford pear.I even went as far as to look in my Guide to Trees of North America, and it mentions nothing of these trees having thorns. Like I say, you've got to be talking about a hybrid/cross breedof some sort.

2 Lunger 07-15-2008 08:39 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
That is a Bradford Pear. My parents have three in their yard.

early in 07-15-2008 08:45 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: 2 Lunger

That is a Bradford Pear. My parents have three in their yard.
Does your parents tree have thorns? If it's a Bradford it won't.

RDHunter 07-15-2008 08:47 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
Those look more like figs to me.

pigiron 07-15-2008 09:10 PM
RE: My mystery tree has fruit... help again??
 
ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: 2 Lunger

That is a Bradford Pear. My parents have three in their yard.
Does your parents tree have thorns? If it's a Bradford it won't.

EI, the common bradford does not have thorns..... nor does red spire, cleveland select, chanticleer, or aristocrat. But when the callery varietygoes wild, so to speak...goes to seed(fruit), and spreads on its own in an invasive manner(by seed and not propagated by a cutting), it grows tremendous thorns. It does, I can assure you(really I already have). This is not a crabapple of any sort. It is a simple species of pear....and that species is callery.


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