Is the flag on our hunting gear Disrespectful??
 

Just this morning I posted a popular pick article on some of my arrow wrap options with one having an American Flag flame design on it and I got some interesting responses. Some of you think that having that on a wrap or even a flag sticker on the back of a truck is disrespectful and I am curious as to why this sentiment comes to mind when seeing that. In my mind like I said in that post I would like to see the American Flag a lot more; here in Denver I honestly see more mexican flags around Cinco De Mayo in one weekend then I see American Flags the rest of the year. Granted I would like to see most of them flying high above a house but I also love to see them elsewhere (like on my bowtech from the factory) but if the majority of you think that it is disrespectful of me to have a symbol of the Flag placed on my arrows then let me know because I consider myself to be a true Patriot of this great country and I will not have the wrong message getting out there.

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Companies put american flag stickers on products and proudly display "Made in America"

I see no issue in showing the American Flag through arrow wraps or whatever medium. In my eyes it is the destruction of the flag itself that is not acceptable.

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Wear / fly it high and proud!

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Tell the detractors to kiss your ass.;)

The US Flag Code doesn't address this type thing....but does address using the flag as an adornment (RE: a flag shirt or other article of clothing).

I wouldn't give it a second thought....and I'd use them on my hunting arrows, proudly.

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I didn't read you whole post, just the topic heading.

The print onthe wrapis not a flag, it is the American Flag Colors. I don't see how this could be disrespectful.If anything, I would say it is Patriotic.

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Do what you want man I personally do not think that is disrespect to the flag or our country. Many people have flag patches on their shirt including the armed forces and the boyscouts are they disrespecting the flag? I don't think so. I personally think that having the flag on your arrow wrap is cool and it shows that you do care for the country.

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I don't have any problem with it. I don't see you putting it on your arrows as a negative statement so it is fine with me. I wish that more people would display the flag. I don't care what fashion they choose as long as it isn't burning!

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I see nothing wrong with it what so ever!!

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TG..honestly, the longer I live, the less I care what other people think or say. Do what you feel is right and makes you feel good.

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i dont think its disrespectful...im kind like TG78 but in a different way were i live (in the boondocks) i see more confederate flags aroung here then i do american flags everone has a confederate flag aroung here (me also) it dont mean were not direspectful to our country cause this is america and we should be glad we are free.

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Hell no it's not disrespectful. If anything, it's showing pride in your country and freedoms.

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It is not disrespectful at all. Don't worry about what other's think, that approach is what has lead to the downward spiral our Country is currently in. Polical Correctness, we never want to disrespect anyone, so we say and do nothing at all. Hell with that, keep your wraps and send them thru the lungs of a nice buck this fall.

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I could not agree with you guys more but I needed to get a little support on this one making sure I was not putting something out there that would offend the masses. I will order the flag wrap from Mindy at Onestringer today.

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I will continue to display the american flag and or colors until the day I die....I don't give a damn who thinks it is disrespectful....When that person that thinks it is disrespectful starts working in other counties as I do, he will have a change of heart quick and in a hurry!!!! It is definately an eye opener when you see the other side (their ways and thoughts) Tg, you keep doing what your doing and to hell with the nay sayers!!!!! You are patriotic in my opinion!!!

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Heck, I think I have a made in America tag with a flag on my underwear. Wraps would be cool.

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I don't see anything wrong with it at all!

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If I could fly an american flag over my deer stand without spooking the deer I would. It's because of what that flag stands for is why we are are able to hunt and fish so freely without the worry of someone coming to taking the sport we love so much away from us!

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Exactly ;)That is what freedom is all about ;)

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In no way is it disrespectful. I'd love to hear some justification to why or how?

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What were some of the reasons people gave as to why it was disrespectful? Sounds odd to me that someone would think that way.

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It's the fact that we fly it proudly on so many things that shows our respect for it, and the anger we display when someone disrespects it speaks volumes as well.

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I will not mention any names but a quotes are

"I don't think that our national symbol of freedom should be stuck to the back of an arrow. IMHO it degrades our flag. But this would also extend to bumper stickers and such as well. Again, IMO."

"Leave the flag alone"

These comments took me back hence my second post asking if using a flag on my arrow is offensive.

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Like I said in the original post (the first phrase in the above quotations)that is being refered to in this thread. It is my opinion only. Actually, it's not my opinion as you can read below. Maybe you all can learn something new today as most of you are way out in left field.

I don't like to put the US flag nor the Rebel flag on things like this. IMO it is disrespectful to the flag to have it showing through a flame outline and sending it through the body of a deer. Our flag and our freedomisn't something that should be taken so lightly.
BTW, I have served our country in the US Navy and have seen plenty of other countries and in war zones. I think I have a right to have my opinion on this. I don't give a damn if people like my opinion or not. It's the way I feel and that's the way it is.

Sec. 3. Use of flag for advertising purposes; mutilation of flag

Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for
exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word,
figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any
nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States
of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any
such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been
printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached,
appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design,
or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the
District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to
public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given
away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an
article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or
thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have
been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of
any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention
to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so
placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by
a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty
days, or both, in the discretion of the court. The words ``flag,
standard, colors, or ensign'', as used herein, shall include any flag,
standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or
of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on
any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said
flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a
picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the
colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or
of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the
same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag,
colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

(July 30, 1947, ch. 389, 61 Stat. 642; Pub. L. 90-381, Sec. 3, July 5,
1968, 82 Stat. 291.)


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TITLE 4--FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES

CHAPTER 1--THE FLAG

Sec. 8. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of
America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing.
Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags
are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except
as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or
property.
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the
ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but
always aloft and free.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or
drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but
always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always
arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red
below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front
of the platform, and for decoration in general.
(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in
such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in
any way.
(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of
it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design,
picture, or drawing of any nature.
(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving,
holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any
manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as
cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed
on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use
and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or
halyard from which the flag is flown.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic
uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military
personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.
The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living
thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on
the left lapel near the heart.
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a
fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way,
preferably by burning.

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BigBulls, I applaud you for your opinion and your response here. And yes, i have learned something today. Thanks for sharing this.

I think when it comes to the flag and our love of our country, we all have our own ideas and ways we wish to express this.

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You know this has got me a little torn here. I did learn a lot by reading through a lot of the flag code contained on other sites as well as here and I have to say I feel like all or rather most of the issues deal with respect for the flag and depending on how it is used I think honestly some things on the code need to be updated. For example according to the code a flag tatoo is ok but a woman who lost both her sons in Iraqwho paints their faces next to a flag on her car is not. It is a "code" and it is being ammended all the time, but for now I will refrain from putting it on my arrows as I certainly would not want to offend anyone who is familiar with the code, especially with many of those "people" probably being vetrans. It is too easy for me to pick something else that is not on the line of acceptance. I just hate not seeing the flag more in our country in what I consider to be trying times.

Back to the wraps drawing board. any ideas?

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BigBulls.....I respect your service AND your stance on this.

Since the flame design is (seemingly) the big stickler.....I'd say you've changed my mind. While I wouldn't chastise the OP for using them.....I can certainly understand your POV.

Thanks again for your service.....and I appreciate you educating me.

After 911 I got pretty (not enough though, it seems) well versed on the code (because we wanted to display the flag on our fleet vehicles). I wasn't aware that this type wording existed, though.....or I just skimmed over it.

I can see how it could be construed to be "offensive" to "some"....especially those with your credentials.

No further comment.

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I think I might have to print up some of the flag code for people to read, many I think would be quite surprised.

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Guys, I am not "offended" about the flag wraps. I just wouldn't do it personally and since TG78 asked for opinins I gave mine in the original wrap thread with the flag wrap in it. I know that you guys wouldn't wrap your arrows like that but for any thing other than pride in our country. That's fine with me and probably most any one I imagine. I just wouldn't personally use them. Or flag colored deer skulls, bumper stickers, etc...

What ticked me off is the A-hole comments many posted here with out knowing anything about what they were talking about so I felt the need to post parts of the code that pertained to this type of thing.

I agree that some of the codes could be updated but they are there for a reason.


Someone posted that they don't see the flag enough in this country. IMO, what they don't see enough is the flag displayed properly in this country.

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I was in the military and it doesn't bother me any. I actually volunteered to put my life on the line to protect your right to do that very thing. Whether I agree with it or not doesn't matter it is your right. I think those DC laws are a bit unconstitutional myself. Sort of infringes on your right to express yourself the way I see it.

The other part that is listed is simply guidelines to show you how to go about paying respect to an actual FLAG of the United States, they are not rules or laws, just accepted practices.

Your not supposed to deface or ruin money either, but it happens a lot, and that is actually a law.

I don't consider your wraps as disrespectful since they are not an actual flag that you altered, destroyed or turned into something else. They are simply a patriotic logo. Now if they were used in an Anti American way then I would consider it disrespectful.

My opinions and nothing more.

Paul

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TG78, Personally, if it is a sticker of a complete flag, I would not put it on my arrows as I would not want to get it bloody or take a chance of it touching the ground. However, if you shoot like MOBOW, you don't have to worry about it, cause he doesn't know how to hit a deer and most of his arrows end up sticking straight out of the ground so the flag would be flying high. In the end, do asyou feel is appropriate because you are the only one who has to live with the choices you make.

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Anywhere you display a flag, representation of a flag, or something with stars and stripes, that reflects pride (I'm thinkining those arrow wraps would fall into that catagory) is good with me, and I'd be the first to encourage it ;)!

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i would be more worryed about the red white and blue to the deer but do as you wish i see no proplem

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I 'd say the same. It's the colors of the flag, not the flag. & people do alot worse to our flag that wrap an arrow w/the colors. I'd use em.

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I love seeing the American flag. I dont think its disrespectful at all.
About the sticker on your truck thing, a kid at my school put a american flag sticker on his car, i dont have a problem with that at all since i have one on my truck. but the thing is, he put his upside down, i asked him if it was a mistake or he did it on purpose and he said "it looks cooler".Personally i think thats disrespectful putting it upside down.

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i love the flag, and would be happy to see it anyplace that people can see it.

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The American Flag!!

Wear it, Fly it, Display it, & be Damned proud of it!!!

Dan

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Somewhat off topic: Proper respectful display means a lot more then a casual, easy one.

As you drive around, observe the number of torn tattered flags, those flown 24/7 in all kinds of weather not properly lighted, and in general just hung and forgot. Take the time to properly display AND MAINTAIN the flag if you are truly proud and respectful.

Steve

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Yeah, certainly something to consider. Those studies on deer vision seem to indicate the color blue stands out quite significantly to deer.

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My wraps are I guess the ones you mentioned the flag colors going into a flame I have them because I am damn proud to be an American and want anyone that sees my arrows to know that. I love our flag and our country...................

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Uhm.... That is the point of what I said.