My buddy wanted u guy' s opinion
 

My buddy who is 18 was curious what you people would have done in this situation, the people next to his property are avid vegitarians, PETA and greenpeace i assume the holocaust thing reminded me of this he told me to ask, on Nov.15 Well call him john doe went out hunting, and te perpetrators (this was back when john was 12 and could only bowhunt so he went out gun opener) and the neighbor people thought they would " save" the deer by walking around on their property and actually righ past the box blind there was a woman and a man banging pots and raising all kinds of hell, they felt the necessity do this, in a fit of rage, my buddy (keep in mind he was only 12) went over to where the man banging pots with his female companion, He started yelling and they were blurring how he had no right and the next part makes me cringe, the older gentleman pushed his 12 yr old and yes my buddy reacted and punched the living hell out of his older fellow about 60 yes i cringe but my question is, was it deserved? this is a true story as i have seen the fol whom he was talking about, i believe he should have called the DNR for hunterharassment but sure i say that now i dunno what i would have done if opening morning was ruined by some loony who then pushed me, i think my italian temper would have gotten the best of me, Just curious what you al lthink
-Jon
I am not an anti trying to imcriminate you guys either as you al know me (i hope)

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there' s a reason rubber blunts were invented [>:]

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I too was raised to respect my elders and people in general. With that said they (I assume) were tresspassing on his property and laid hands on him first. If the guy got knocked on his ARSE then he desirved it. Your buddy was every bit in hes legal rights to defend himself. I, being the father, then would have filed tresspass charges, harrassment charges, and charges of assault on a minor. They will continue to do that kind of thing if you don' t take some kind of legal action.

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I think my temper would have kicked in and i would have punched him because he pushed me!

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I would have done the same thing I give respect but only on the same level as it is received the neighbors should have had allot more common sense than a 12 year old boy you don' t think about it at that age but filing harassment charges and getting an order of protection would be a good idea




being this happened six years ago how about an update on the neighbors do they ( still live there, still harassment ,etc.)[8D]

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Well it just depends:D What was the season on Peta at the time, Buck or Doe?
Rick

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Your friend was within his rights, to react as he did, IMO. Anyone who lays a finger on my kids will meet the " animal" they so love. It sounds as if the PETAs were trespassing, and illegally interrupting a legal hunt. Take them to court!

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Yesh they still live their, but since my buddy is now much older and hppens to be 6' 5 260lbs they dont really mess with gim now, he was just feeling crappy about beating up an old dude
much thanks guys- jon

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i cannot speak for anyone else but personally if someone comes on my property, and commets an act of vilonce, to me or anyone else welcome on my land, they will be lucky to be leaving without holes.[:@]

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he did the right thing for the situation

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First of allI would have beat the crap out of the dude when he put his hands on my child all bets are off, then I would have had them arrested for tresspassing and obstructing my hunt.
they did a lot less than what I would have done.[:@]

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I too was raised to respect my elders. I would not have hit the man but knowing my dad the way I do the elder fellow would have wished I had. My dad didn' t play when you mess with his and i' m the same way. If someone touches my little hunter I won' t leave holes but they will go to the ER[:@][:' (][8D]

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I think he acted properly,then I would have told they people thanks for the buck I shot an hour ago when they started the pot banging in the distance:D

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[X(] If that old fart has more respect for animals than a child then I would have filed assulte and battery charges. Never would I just pound someone chances are they will take legal acton, but defending your family from harm is your legal right to a degree. Use your head get even another way. Dont start another hatfield and mcoy feud![:-]

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I was taught to repect all life ,elders, my parents... BUT and I' m sorry for this ...NO ONE puts their hands on my family!!!!!! That requires a beatdown!!!
Yes, I know you should call the police , try to reason with people but in this case THEY crossed a major boundery toching someone else and my feeling with extremist yes i' m lumping PETA with extemist, there should be an open season on them also.......... there is right and there is extreme use extreme get extreme!!

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A couple of things here.
1 People do have the right to walk around on THEIR own property
What if the old man had decided to mow the grass instead of banging pots.
2 Why was the box blind that close to the property line?
I know you can put a blind on any part of your property but if you know the neighbours dont like people hunting why not put it in another spot on the property or was it there in case a big boy was on the adjoining land?

So your friend trespassed on their property?
He had no right to go over to the old man and woman and verbally abuse them.
Now I could be wrong here but doesn' t a land owner have a right to remove a trespasser off his property?

Your friend is very lucky that the old man did not press not only assualt charges but also trespass charges.

If he had of used some thought process he would have moved then if the disturbance continued he should have called the proper authorities for hunter harrassment.

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Ausie i suppose i didn' t make that clear, i meant the poeple were on my buddies property, he owns like a 100acre square and the box blind is like smush in the middle, im sorry for the confusing thread. They were on his land

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Deerhntr1213.
Thanks for the clarification that puts a whole new perspective to the situation.

But your friend should have gone and called the DNR and cops and had the people charged with not only trespass but hunter harrassment.
I know it is hard at times to try and avoid a confrontation I hope he has learned to think before he acts;)

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lilhunter

I like the way you think;);)

As a Martial Arts instructor I feel very strongly you have the right to defend yourself. If a pyhsical attack is made you should defend yourself. Now on the other hand I feel it could have been handeled in a manner that didn' t escilate the situation to the point where physical violence is needed. If an argument reaches that point than both parties are at fault to some degree. Under the law the older party in this case could face some strong charges for his actions.

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Having lost a thirteen year old child to murder . . . TOUCH ONE OF MY CHILDREN . . . EXPECT TO PAY A VERY HIGH PRICE!!!!

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I hope that old Peta jackass learned not to mess with hunters anymore.

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I am suprised there is so few responses to this- I would be very upset at the loss of a day in the woods, because of an anti.

When I first started hunting with a bow many moons ago, I remember stopping at a gas station earlier in the morning to get snacks or gas before my morning hunt. In the station there were two police drinking coffee at the front desk. When I got to the counter to pay , one of the officers looked at me and asked " are you going out to kill Bambi" to this day I wish I would of stood up for myself and I' m mad that I did not. I was not doing anything wrong, they had NO right to harass me, and thats exactly what they were doing. Today I would probably go to jail if that happened again, but at least I would have stood up for myself.
Just because we are hunters doesnt mean we have to kiss everybodys butt that don' t like our sport. We are not doing anything wrong- Good for your friend, I hope he kicked the old mans ass but good. (I wouldn' t feel sorry for the old coot, I' ve seen 60 year old guys out there that could probably kick my butt, In his old age he should have been wiser, and if he has elzhimers he wont remember the butt kicking by the next day anyway.)

Boy, can I hear it comming know, oops!

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I think punching the living terd out of someone is not the only way to protect and defend your son. I don' t see anything wrong with clobering him one as long as you don' t go over board. But you should always try and respect your elders by not smacken em out. I probably would of got right in there face and said a few words (not compliments mind you [>:]) and then probably moved on spitting n cursing them.

There are other ways that would' ve scared the liven snot out of the old codger so he would' nt do it again. This is were Lilhunter' s idea of a rubber blunt comes in handy[>:]. I try to respect my elders but you just can' t go around letting them walk all over you, they should also respect you, so you should stand up for yourself. After all your buddy was not doing anything wrong.
Well that' s what I think but if in the heat of the moment everythig fails... run home to mummy!!:D

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On further reading that they old guy and his companion were on your mates property then that would make me twice as mad so he could verbally abuse them as much as he wanted for all I care, untill they got off his property. That would be something that would definitly rub my fur the wrong way.