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RE: Do you take this shot?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool Its bowhunting and about getting them in close. Right on BHF! Bow hunting is up and close hunting, not a shooting sport!! What Bowhunting is to one does not mean that's what is to all. There are areas I have hunted if you are not willing/able to shoot at least 40 yards then you might as well stay home. I am a Bowhunter exclusively. I never havegun hunted for big game. My 2 biggest Trophies were taken at 84 yards and 3 yards respectively. I was not flinging the arrow when I took the 84 yard shot at my Elk. I had shot out to 90 yards everyday in preparation for that hunt on advice of the outfitter. The Elk ran only 60+ yards. I wouldn't take that shot today, but more because my eyes are not assharp as they used to bethan for any other reason. The thing you have to realize is there are right and wrong times to take a 20 yard shot, but if you are capable there are also right and wrong times to take a 50 yard shot. Last year I passed up an 8 yard shot at a real bruiser Whitetail because the percentages for success were not good. I have shot close to 30 animals at ranges of at least 40 yards or more,and I have yet to see one react to the shot at those distances. Dan |
RE: Do you take this shot?
ORIGINAL: MeanV2 I have killed Elk and Deer with a bow at 80+ yards, but I would never just fling an arrow by aiming high and hoping I got lucky. Being prepared for a certain shot and being able to make it is an entirely different thing than flinging an arrow and hoping for Luck. That said I pretty much impose a 50 yard limit on myself anymore. The eyes are not what they used to be;) Dan |
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ORIGINAL: Justin You saved up your money fora "once in a lifetime" trip to somewhere that you've always wanted to hunt. A place where the bucks are bigger and the hunters are fewer then they are back home. Your dreams have been consumed with visions of frost covered mornings and swollen-neck giants chasing does. The time has arrived and this is it, you're going to come home with a new trophy for the wall. On the last morning of your hunt you still haven't put your tag on that buck you've always dreamed of. You've seen some good bucks and had a few encounters with smaller bucks, maybe even shot a doe or two but your vision of that big rack sticking up over your pickup bed are slowly fading. Then out of nowhere appears a giant buck. We're talking 170" plus. Possible the largest deer that you've ever seen on the hoof while hunting. He's 100 yards and closing. You get ready for the shot, but he never comes closer than 70 yards. You grunt, bleat, snort-wheeze, growl, rattle, and pray but he wont' come any closer. A hot doe has his attention now and you're done for. The terrain in front of you is as wide open as open can be. There's not a limb between you and this deer for 100 yards on either side. He's standing still - hasn't moved a muscle other than his ears in what seems like an eternity. You've practiced out to 50 yards just because you had an extra pin and know you can hit a pie plate 7 out of 10 times - but he's at 70 yards. The wind is calm and he's not spooked. Do you sit back and smile that this magnificant animal will live to see another day? Or is a smile and a memory not good enough for you? Do you aim high and let one fly? Hoping that you catch a break and fulfill your dreams. I'll wait, it's still daylight and there's time for the Gods to make it right and send him my way. |
RE: Do you take this shot?
No way!..I know Ted would..
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Let me think about this for a minute........ Nope still wouldnt.
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RE: Do you take this shot?
I'd put that 50 yard pin about a couple ofinchiesor so above it's back and pray for all it's worth.
Yea ... I would take the shot , at least I would be able to say that I tried to hit him if I missed. |
RE: Do you take this shot?
ORIGINAL: MeanV2 ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool Its bowhunting and about getting them in close. Right on BHF! Bow hunting is up and close hunting, not a shooting sport!! What Bowhunting is to one does not mean that's what is to all. There are areas I have hunted if you are not willing/able to shoot at least 40 yards then you might as well stay home. I am a Bowhunter exclusively. I never have gun hunted for big game. My 2 biggest Trophies were taken at 84 yards and 3 yards respectively. I was not flinging the arrow when I took the 84 yard shot at my Elk. I had shot out to 90 yards everyday in preparation for that hunt on advice of the outfitter. The Elk ran only 60+ yards. I wouldn't take that shot today, but more because my eyes are not as sharp as they used to be than for any other reason. The thing you have to realize is there are right and wrong times to take a 20 yard shot, but if you are capable there are also right and wrong times to take a 50 yard shot. Last year I passed up an 8 yard shot at a real bruiser Whitetail because the percentages for success were not good. I have shot close to 30 animals at ranges of at least 40 yards or more, and I have yet to see one react to the shot at those distances. Dan No offense here Dan, but you know as well as I do that an elk is not a deer.... at least not in a target sense... you've got a whole lot more target in an elk than you do even a very large whitetail. Plus, as you mentioned, you were ready for an extended range shot. And no doubt in the type of terrain you were in, (likely very open) getting to within 80 yards (and for a flatlander like me getting UP to where the terrain is open) is a feat worth mention in itself. But comparing a long shot on elk and a long shot on a whitetail is like the difference between hitting the green from the tee and a hole in one. The whole point of the initial post is really not "would you take a 70 yard shot" but more "would you take a shot that you know is further than you ought to be taking in the given situation." For you I suppose the range should have been 125 ;) The example you gave about passing on the deer at 8 yards plays to the heart of the whole matter.... abilities and circumstances are looked at subjectively... and its up to us the hunters to make the call when the time comes whether we can make an ethical shot or not. |
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Well this scenerio could never happen to me as I shoot regularlyto70 yards and even as far as100 yards in practice so by the "rules" of the post I can't comment. [8D]
But as was mentioned before there are days when a 20 yard shot is pushing the boundries due to conditions or even mental preparedness..so nothings a given. |
RE: Do you take this shot?
ORIGINAL: MeanV2 ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool Its bowhunting and about getting them in close. Right on BHF! Bow hunting is up and close hunting, not a shooting sport!! What Bowhunting is to one does not mean that's what is to all. There are areas I have hunted if you are not willing/able to shoot at least 40 yards then you might as well stay home. I am a Bowhunter exclusively. I never havegun hunted for big game. My 2 biggest Trophies were taken at 84 yards and 3 yards respectively. I was not flinging the arrow when I took the 84 yard shot at my Elk. I had shot out to 90 yards everyday in preparation for that hunt on advice of the outfitter. The Elk ran only 60+ yards. I wouldn't take that shot today, but more because my eyes are not assharp as they used to bethan for any other reason. The thing you have to realize is there are right and wrong times to take a 20 yard shot, but if you are capable there are also right and wrong times to take a 50 yard shot. Last year I passed up an 8 yard shot at a real bruiser Whitetail because the percentages for success were not good. I have shot close to 30 animals at ranges of at least 40 yards or more,and I have yet to see one react to the shot at those distances. Dan No offense Dan!;) |
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Give me a LITTLE credit, David.
"I" would have AT LEAST given you a 60 yd pin;):D Only man that can answer this question is the man with the shot opportunity (or lack thereof) in front of him. If you can make that shot.....and you know you can.....ROCK ON! |
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Glad to see the results are 56:4 in favor of passing on the 70 yard shot.
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Not a chance, that buck will live to see another day. Post this POLL on another forum I get on and it'll likely be 50/50 though!!!!
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Nope.. Have had similar deer within 40 but the right shot wasn't there so I didn't take it. Not that I've never taken a bad shot but I really try not too. Happens less asI learn to be a better hunter.. But no, don't take the shot.. Deer deserves better thend that..
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RE: Do you take this shot?
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie ORIGINAL: MeanV2 ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool Its bowhunting and about getting them in close. Right on BHF! Bow hunting is up and close hunting, not a shooting sport!! What Bowhunting is to one does not mean that's what is to all. There are areas I have hunted if you are not willing/able to shoot at least 40 yards then you might as well stay home. I am a Bowhunter exclusively. I never have gun hunted for big game. My 2 biggest Trophies were taken at 84 yards and 3 yards respectively. I was not flinging the arrow when I took the 84 yard shot at my Elk. I had shot out to 90 yards everyday in preparation for that hunt on advice of the outfitter. The Elk ran only 60+ yards. I wouldn't take that shot today, but more because my eyes are not as sharp as they used to be than for any other reason. The thing you have to realize is there are right and wrong times to take a 20 yard shot, but if you are capable there are also right and wrong times to take a 50 yard shot. Last year I passed up an 8 yard shot at a real bruiser Whitetail because the percentages for success were not good. I have shot close to 30 animals at ranges of at least 40 yards or more, and I have yet to see one react to the shot at those distances. Dan No offense here Dan, but you know as well as I do that an elk is not a deer.... at least not in a target sense... you've got a whole lot more target in an elk than you do even a very large whitetail. Plus, as you mentioned, you were ready for an extended range shot. And no doubt in the type of terrain you were in, (likely very open) getting to within 80 yards (and for a flatlander like me getting UP to where the terrain is open) is a feat worth mention in itself. But comparing a long shot on elk and a long shot on a whitetail is like the difference between hitting the green from the tee and a hole in one. The whole point of the initial post is really not "would you take a 70 yard shot" but more "would you take a shot that you know is further than you ought to be taking in the given situation." For you I suppose the range should have been 125 ;) The example you gave about passing on the deer at 8 yards plays to the heart of the whole matter.... abilities and circumstances are looked at subjectively... and its up to us the hunters to make the call when the time comes whether we can make an ethical shot or not. |
RE: Do you take this shot?
no way @ 70, no problem @50
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Have you been taking posting lessons from GMMAT No, I would not Justin. |
RE: Do you take this shot?
ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool Thats FUNNY!!!!!!! Who gives a rats ass what Chuck Adams and (whoever)Phil Phillps is thinks!:D:D:D:D I hunt for me...........Doesn't Chuck Adams shoot a Rage Broadhead!;):D:D:D:D And No way I'd go on a hunt and not be prepared to take the shot needed to take Game. I hunt to Kill!:D 50+ yards! I'm sure he'd look better on my wall if he was only 15 yards away when I shot;) The main thing is a Man has to know his limitations and Never fling arrows and pray:D Dan  |
RE: Do you take this shot?
[blockquote]quote: Have you been taking posting lessons from GMMAT[/blockquote] LMAO No, I would not Justin. If you hadn't been banned, before, for arguing a camo pattern.....I suppose it could've been REAL funny:D Oh yeah....LMAO. |
RE: Do you take this shot?
If you can not get closer than that to him, you may need to reconsider rifle hunting. jmho
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RE: Do you take this shot?
Not only would I take the shot,but I'd put the arrow right where it needs to be.I have been shooting HHA's for years,and I practice out to 80yds.I havemy older HHAsights
set up in 5yd increments.With the new Ultra 5500XL,it's in 1yd. increments.A pie plate at 70yds. is no problem. After saying all that,the picture you painted is the perfect world,which is rare,to say the least.I may practice out that far,but 90% of my deer are taken inside of 45yds....Bob |
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I would NEVER take that shot. I would call him in and then let him have an arrow.;)
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No way.
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I would nock 2 arrows to increase my chances:D
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Let's say you take the shot and hit it poorly.
Now you get to be the jackass that goes back to camp to tell the guide and your fellow bowhuntersthat you took a hail mary 70 yard shot at a 170" buck and wounded him. Do you really want to be THAT GUY? :eek: |
RE: Do you take this shot?
I have been shooting out to 60 yards and am dead nuts to there so yes I think last day I range him and take the shot but any further than 70 yards no I would not cause of arrow drop! i think i can compensate for 10 yards but 20 is pushing it!
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RE: Do you take this shot?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT [blockquote] quote: Have you been taking posting lessons from GMMAT [/blockquote] LMAO No, I would not Justin. If you hadn't been banned, before, for arguing a camo pattern.....I suppose it could've been REAL funny:D Oh yeah....LMAO.  |
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