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Lubricious 06-08-2008 06:57 PM

Atsko put to the test
 
I finally got the stuff to do the test and here it is. For the first test, I used a shirt. Broken down into 3 parts. Pictures are new, washed in Tide, and then washed in Sportwash/treated with spray. As you can see in the first pic,the shirt is very bright right from the start.




Lubricious 06-08-2008 06:59 PM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 
After washing in Tide, I can see no visible change. Still glowing pretty good.


After the Atsko treatment...I sprayed the shirt down with the spray while I had it in front of the light and I could
see it working but the end product is still not acceptable.


Lubricious 06-08-2008 07:01 PM

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Next up are some pants. They look good right off the rack.



Lubricious 06-08-2008 07:04 PM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 
Washed in Tide. Noticably brighter.


Treated with Atsko. Worked but its still brighter than they were new. Much better results than the shirt.

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kingvjack 06-08-2008 07:31 PM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 
So, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't wash his camo in anything with UV brightners in it?
I just use baking soda, hang em off the swingset out back, then stuff em in a ziplock bag with scent wafers till opening day.... that way they are dulled, and scent free.

Lubricious 06-08-2008 07:32 PM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 
The stuff works almost as advertised. It wont restore the fabric to its original dullness if you have washed it in regular detergent. If you use it from the start, youre golden.

Im a skeptic of most products and this one passes my test. Ill be using it.

Lubricious 06-08-2008 07:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: kingvjack

So, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't wash his camo in anything with UV brightners in it?
I just use baking soda, hang em off the swingset out back, then stuff em in a ziplock bag with scent wafers till opening day.... that way they are dulled, and scent free.
I always washed them like regular clothes. Didnt really care to be honest.

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kingvjack 06-08-2008 07:39 PM

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Huh, well, to each his own.... I just don't really "wash" camo.... unless they get bloody or something.... Isn't there some carbon product thats supposed to dull your camo as well?

joshw020 06-08-2008 07:39 PM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 

ORIGINAL: kingvjack

So, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't wash his camo in anything with UV brightners in it?
I just use baking soda, hang em off the swingset out back, then stuff em in a ziplock bag with scent wafers till opening day.... that way they are dulled, and scent free.
X 2 :)

kingvjack 06-08-2008 07:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: DropTine249

I NEVER wash my camo in regular detergent.

I get my new camo in the house. I have my washer and dryer washed with baking soda and scent killer. I put the camo in with scent eliminating detergent and baking sodaand cover scent(regular camo, scent lok- no cover scent). I was the camo on the longest cycle.

I wash my hands in scent elimination soap and transfer the camo into the dryer with a cover scent wafer and cover scent dryer sheet(again, no cover scent for scent lok).

When finshed, I have a carbon bag that I put the camo in to transfer out to my shed. I then, with washed and cover scent hands, place the camo into either my scent lok closet or washed out rubbermaid container with a scent wafer and pine needles.

NEVER get winded. I am going to start to add some UV removing soap to my washing process.
I think you may have gone a little bit overboard with that..... But as long as its fun.... I guess...

bigbulls 06-08-2008 08:47 PM

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Not to try and sound like an arse but if you are going to test it and post it then you should probably follow their directions.

You aren't suppose to wash it in a UV brightning detergent (Tide)before you apply the UV killer.

If you read the directions it is a two step process. First youmust wash your clothes in sport wash and then apply the UV killer to eleminate any remaining UV brightners.




: First wash garment in Sport-Wash. Scent-Free Sport-Wash rinses 100% removing all traces of old soap residue, grease, oil, dirt, and sizing that would prevent U-V-Killer from forming a bond with the fabric. Other soaps do not rinse out and they leave behind residue. Sport-Wash is safe for all fabrics and dyes.

Spray Dry Garments. Spray till surface is covered. Imagine you are applying a color and don't want the former color to show thru. Brushing with a small brush will make coverage more uniform. A ultraviolet (UV) light can reveal "missed" spots even while U-V-Killer is still wet. U-V-Killer extends the life of fabric five times from sun rot.

Treated garments may be worn when completely dry, but 72 hours of adequate ventilation is required for the bond to reach full durability and for the garment to be scent free. Re-washing, waterproofing, and cover scent applications should be delayed for this 72 hours. The U-V-Killer treatment is designed to be permanent, and on most fabrics it will endure for the life of the garment.

A single washing in commercial detergents, fabric softeners, and or "Color Safe" bleach (while not removing the treatment) will render the U-V-Killer useless by depositing new brightener dyes on top of it.

Always wash a load of non-hunting clothes in Sport-Wash prior to washing your treated camo & blaze orange in order to remove residual brighteners from your washer and dryer. It is recommended that you confirm the absence of brighteners each season using a UV light.


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Lubricious 06-08-2008 09:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigbulls

Not to try and sound like an arse but if you are going to test it and post it then you should probably follow their directions.

You aren't suppose to wash it in a UV brightning detergent (Tide)before you apply the UV killer.

If you read the directions it is a two step process. First youmust wash your clothes in sport wash and then apply the UV killer to eleminate any remaining UV brightners.




: First wash garment in Sport-Wash. Scent-Free Sport-Wash rinses 100% removing all traces of old soap residue, grease, oil, dirt, and sizing that would prevent U-V-Killer from forming a bond with the fabric. Other soaps do not rinse out and they leave behind residue. Sport-Wash is safe for all fabrics and dyes.

Spray Dry Garments. Spray till surface is covered. Imagine you are applying a color and don't want the former color to show thru. Brushing with a small brush will make coverage more uniform. A ultraviolet (UV) light can reveal "missed" spots even while U-V-Killer is still wet. U-V-Killer extends the life of fabric five times from sun rot.

Treated garments may be worn when completely dry, but 72 hours of adequate ventilation is required for the bond to reach full durability and for the garment to be scent free. Re-washing, waterproofing, and cover scent applications should be delayed for this 72 hours. The U-V-Killer treatment is designed to be permanent, and on most fabrics it will endure for the life of the garment.

A single washing in commercial detergents, fabric softeners, and or "Color Safe" bleach (while not removing the treatment) will render the U-V-Killer useless by depositing new brightener dyes on top of it.

Always wash a load of non-hunting clothes in Sport-Wash prior to washing your treated camo & blaze orange in order to remove residual brighteners from your washer and dryer. It is recommended that you confirm the absence of brighteners each season using a UV light.


Imam aware of what the instructions say. I washed them in regular detergent and THEN followed their directionsfor a reason. I wanted to see if the product wouldcover the brighteners after being washed in regular detergentlikeAtsko claimed. It was in reference to a study the military did and to a post from last week. I should have linked it to clear that up. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2834067&mpage=1&key==

RuLzU 06-08-2008 10:30 PM

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Wow.. some really indepth ways.. crazy.. i just goto my hunting spot.. a month before or so, and pick up leaves and pine cones and throw the top layers (jacket,shirt, pants) in a big rubber maid tupperware thingy from home depot..
i went 2 for 2 on a 3 day trip last year.. which was the first year i did that.
all the previous years i was 0 for 0 cuz i never saw oungotz. then again i was on state land and where i was hunting was like a festival in the woods. but.. the land i did hunt this past season no one had seen or shot any deer in 5 years there anyways.. so.. the leaves and pinecones did the trick.. as well as the cigarette in my mouth when i shot my 200+ # deerz

kevin1 06-09-2008 06:09 AM

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The instructions for Atsko UV Killer clearly state that the garment must first be washed in a UV brightenerfree detergent(preferably their own) before the garment is treated. Washing it in Tide was a mistake since it locks in the brighteners and thereforenullifies the effect of the UV Killer. When I applied it to a new set of snow camo I first thoroughly cleaned out the drum of the washer with Sport Wash, then washed the camo in Sport Wash only and checked them with a blacklight, then applied the UV Killer as directed and rechecked them. White will always flouresce slightly, but the UV Killer noticably dulled the glow, especially the blue. A freshly washed blaze ballcap also dulled noticablyafter it was sprayed with UV Killer.

HuntingBry 06-09-2008 08:37 AM

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I have a question, was the garment just sprayed with the Atsko treatment after being washed with Tide or was it washed in a non-UV brightened detergent AND sprayed?

If it was sprayed only, the results aren't perfect, but not bad either. If it was washedwith non-UV brightened detergent and then sprayed the results are disappointing.

early in 06-09-2008 08:59 AM

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I simply run my camo through a basic wash cycle with baking soda, take outside and air dry. I never use the dryer for anything. Beats things up too much. Then I put my garments in a GIANT zip-loc bag if I'm going away to hunt. Otherwise, my cloths stay hung up outsidein the fresh air until I go hunting.I repeat this process throughout the season.
Oh yea, I ALWAYS use Scent Killer (unscented).;)

Lubricious 06-09-2008 09:00 AM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 

ORIGINAL: kevin1

The instructions for Atsko UV Killer clearly state that the garment must first be washed in a UV brightenerfree detergent(preferably their own) before the garment is treated. Washing it in Tide was a mistake since it locks in the brighteners and thereforenullifies the effect of the UV Killer. When I applied it to a new set of snow camo I first thoroughly cleaned out the drum of the washer with Sport Wash, then washed the camo in Sport Wash only and checked them with a blacklight, then applied the UV Killer as directed and rechecked them. White will always flouresce slightly, but the UV Killer noticably dulled the glow, especially the blue. A freshly washed blaze ballcap also dulled noticablyafter it was sprayed with UV Killer.
Again, I know what the instructions say and again, washing them in Tide was not a mistake. I washed them in Tide on purpose. I then washed them in Sportwash and sprayed them down. Atsko claims that it will cover up what the Tide caused. See post #15. Heres the link to the claim. This brightness will be permanently transferred to the uniform. The only way to undo the damage is to cover up the Optical Brighteners by applying a UV absorbing Dye. If you wash your camouflage in a detergent containing Optical Brighteners you must rewash it in Sport-Wash and retreat with U-V-Killer.

http://www.atsko.com/articles/clothing-care/washing-acu-army.html

Lubricious 06-09-2008 09:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

I have a question, was the garment just sprayed with the Atsko treatment after being washed with Tide or was it washed in a non-UV brightened detergent AND sprayed?

If it was sprayed only, the results aren't perfect, but not bad either. If it was washedwith non-UV brightened detergent and then sprayed the results are disappointing.
I washed in the Sportwash detergentand then generously sprayed them down.

The spray by itself did an amazing job on a very yellow microfiber cloth. Check it out.


BobCo19-65 06-09-2008 09:21 AM

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YOu have to remember that a lot of the UV brightness comes from the dye used in the fabric. Some stuff can not be covered up no matter what. The sports wash just does not add to it as some othersoaps do. A lot of the snow camo is notorious for the dye problem. I personally won't wear it .It looks good to humans though. :D

Lubricious 06-09-2008 09:32 AM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 

ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65

YOu have to remember that a lot of the UV brightness comes from the dye used in the fabric. Some stuff can not be covered up no matter what. The sports wash just does not add to it as some othersoaps do. A lot of the snow camo is notorious for the dye problem. I personally won't wear it .It looks good to humans though. :D
No doubt, you can clearly see that with the shirt. Ill be checking all my camo before deciding to keep it from now on.

HuntingBry 06-09-2008 11:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lubricious


ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

I have a question, was the garment just sprayed with the Atsko treatment after being washed with Tide or was it washed in a non-UV brightened detergent AND sprayed?

If it was sprayed only, the results aren't perfect, but not bad either. If it was washedwith non-UV brightened detergent and then sprayed the results are disappointing.
I washed in the Sportwash detergentand then generously sprayed them down.

The spray by itself did an amazing job on a very yellow microfiber cloth. Check it out. Ill edit the photo in later, having some problems atm.
That is interesting that there was so much of the brightener left in there even after using the wash too. I look forward to seeing the other results. I always use non-UV brightened detergents, but as your first photo shows, sometimes the dyes are in there from the start, just as Bob pointed out.

TG78 06-09-2008 12:23 PM

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PP

TG78 06-09-2008 12:28 PM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 
Sorry for the pp. I was testing as the system was not letting me post responses. Regarding the atsko I think I am going to buy a blacklight so I can take it with me to the store when buying clothes so I can see how much brightners come on it from the factory. I am glad it worked a little but I would like to start out with as little as I can. Curious, if you use the blacklight say in a well lit store will it still show the brightners well, or does it need to be in a dark room.

turkeyward 06-09-2008 11:35 PM

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Hey Guys:
I am the most skeptical guy in the woods with the gimmics. I won some of the UV Killer in a banquet almost 20 years ago when it was new on the market. I used it as directed and went elk hunting (archery). It was the most amazing day in the woods I have ever had. I was within bow range of six mature bulls the first day. I had three of them look straight through me. I swear. In fact one was completely in the open on a sagebrush flat. I froze he just kept grazing. It was unbelievable. I absolutely swear by the UV Killer. I could spit out my resume' but suffice it to say I have called in hundreds of bulls and many of them to their death. UV Killer really works guys.

HuntingBry 06-10-2008 07:10 AM

RE: Atsko put to the test
 

ORIGINAL: Lubricious


ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

I have a question, was the garment just sprayed with the Atsko treatment after being washed with Tide or was it washed in a non-UV brightened detergent AND sprayed?

If it was sprayed only, the results aren't perfect, but not bad either. If it was washedwith non-UV brightened detergent and then sprayed the results are disappointing.
I washed in the Sportwash detergentand then generously sprayed them down.

The spray by itself did an amazing job on a very yellow microfiber cloth. Check it out.

That is some very impressive results with the spray. I think I'll be stocking up on some more of that this fall.

Thanks for taking the time to conduct this experiment and share it with us.


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