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Schultzy 06-07-2008 08:10 PM
RE: property lines
 
ORIGINAL: treboryerf

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As long as they ask I'm fine with it. I'm going with them also to make sure there after that particular deer! If I caught them on my land without permission tracking a deer I'd kick there ass off faster then flys on you know what! I would then go get the deer myself and personally deliver it to them!
So you want them to ask you before they retrieve the deer thats ok I guess,but aren't these your neighbors that you know or are they not known to you by sight.I could understand your point of view if you were hunting land where you did not know who was hunting around you.
Weather I know them or not they better ask 1st! Its the rules in my woods and they know it. If they can't play by the rules as I've laid out them then they are not welcome on my land period. Not all neighboring land owners are all buddy's. We've had some real losers through out the years that think they can do anything they want just because were neighbors, heck I've caught them in my tree stands I've put up! That was the last straw so anyone that wants on my land better be asking 1st. I've got a ton of respect for people who ask for permission if they have a deer that crosses into my land. Like I said I'll go with them and help them get there deer.
" I'm not talking about people sneaking around on yor land to hunt I'm talking about someone you know that is hunting near your line just recovering a downed deer,what if it's hot and they can't reach you,would you rather see that deer spoil or recovered without your permission,it's not like they are trying to hunt your property.What if the shoe was on the other foot would you recover your deer if you thought it may spoil and you couldn't reach the land owner?
If its someone I know and they are decent people and they can't get a hold of me, it wouldn't bother me nearly as much. 95% of the time there's always a way to get a hold of someone, this excuse is used way to often!

If I can't get a hold of the neighboring land owners I will find the next relative, friend of the land owner, game warden, etc to make sure its ok. There's always a way if you want that deer bad enough. I won't step foot on my neighboring land owners land until they give me the go ahead. I've had many trespasser's through out the years so this is what happens when people don't listen, everyone suffers and no one gets any favors. Its sad but thats what happens. You get sick of it after a while so you do something about it.
SCHUTZY sounds as though you have had some bad experienes with tresspassers, so I understand now why you feel the way you do.I hope I never have to resort to such a hard line when it comes to someone coming onto my land to recover an animal,so far it is only people that I have known for many years and we all get along pretty well.You do what you have to ,right?
Trebor it would be nice if it was that way around here. Consider yourself lucky. Like you said you do what ya gotta do.;)

Good conversation we had, Have a good night Trebor.

treboryerf 06-07-2008 08:13 PM
RE: property lines
 
ORIGINAL: Schultzy

ORIGINAL: treboryerf

ORIGINAL: Schultzy

ORIGINAL: treboryerf

ORIGINAL: Schultzy

ORIGINAL: treboryerf

ORIGINAL: Schultzy

As long as they ask I'm fine with it. I'm going with them also to make sure there after that particular deer! If I caught them on my land without permission tracking a deer I'd kick there ass off faster then flys on you know what! I would then go get the deer myself and personally deliver it to them!
So you want them to ask you before they retrieve the deer thats ok I guess,but aren't these your neighbors that you know or are they not known to you by sight.I could understand your point of view if you were hunting land where you did not know who was hunting around you.
Weather I know them or not they better ask 1st! Its the rules in my woods and they know it. If they can't play by the rules as I've laid out them then they are not welcome on my land period. Not all neighboring land owners are all buddy's. We've had some real losers through out the years that think they can do anything they want just because were neighbors, heck I've caught them in my tree stands I've put up! That was the last straw so anyone that wants on my land better be asking 1st. I've got a ton of respect for people who ask for permission if they have a deer that crosses into my land. Like I said I'll go with them and help them get there deer.
" I'm not talking about people sneaking around on yor land to hunt I'm talking about someone you know that is hunting near your line just recovering a downed deer,what if it's hot and they can't reach you,would you rather see that deer spoil or recovered without your permission,it's not like they are trying to hunt your property.What if the shoe was on the other foot would you recover your deer if you thought it may spoil and you couldn't reach the land owner?
If its someone I know and they are decent people and they can't get a hold of me, it wouldn't bother me nearly as much. 95% of the time there's always a way to get a hold of someone, this excuse is used way to often!

If I can't get a hold of the neighboring land owners I will find the next relative, friend of the land owner, game warden, etc to make sure its ok. There's always a way if you want that deer bad enough. I won't step foot on my neighboring land owners land until they give me the go ahead. I've had many trespasser's through out the years so this is what happens when people don't listen, everyone suffers and no one gets any favors. Its sad but thats what happens. You get sick of it after a while so you do something about it.
SCHUTZY sounds as though you have had some bad experienes with tresspassers, so I understand now why you feel the way you do.I hope I never have to resort to such a hard line when it comes to someone coming onto my land to recover an animal,so far it is only people that I have known for many years and we all get along pretty well.You do what you have to ,right?
Trebor it would be nice if it was that way around here. Consider yourself lucky. Like you said you do what ya gotta do.;)

Good conversation we had, Have a good night Trebor.
back atcha ,man have a good one.

GMMAT 06-07-2008 08:19 PM
RE: property lines
 
Why would you want someone to just let a deer lay there until they could reach you or gamewarden?
First of all....I never said I would.

Secondly....IMO...It does no good to try to make a cmparison of hunters v. non-hunters in this scenario to question people's "hard-ass" stances. Hunters "might" be a litte more friendly to their fellow hunter neighbors.....but I'm also thinking your question might sort of backfire. Hunting, in a lot of instances, brings out the worst in people. I had a neighbor of mine's (about 1/2 mi away....and a friend of my in-laws) WIFE make a total bitch out of herself this year over some turkey hunting land that SHE wasn't even hunting. Hunting most definitely can bring out the VERY worst in people. The competitive, uglyunderbelly of hunting probably closes more borders thanthe friendly, hunting neighbor facadeopens.

treboryerf 06-07-2008 08:24 PM
RE: property lines
 
ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Why would you want someone to just let a deer lay there until they could reach you or gamewarden?
First of all....I never said I would.

Secondly....IMO...It does no good to try to make a cmparison of hunters v. non-hunters in this scenario to question people's "hard-ass" stances. Hunters "might" be a litte more friendly to their fellow hunter neighbors.....but I'm also thinking your question might sort of backfire. Hunting, in a lot of instances, brings out the worst in people. I had a neighbor of mine's (about 1/2 mi away....and a friend of my in-laws) WIFE make a total bitch out of herself this year over some turkey hunting land that SHE wasn't even hunting. Hunting most definitely can bring out the VERY worst in people. The competitive, uglyunderbelly of hunting probably closes more borders thanthe friendly, hunting neighbor facadeopens.
It was my scenario in the first place and you are making it into something else entirely,I wanted to know what hunters would do in that scenario,you brought the anti and non hunter into it,stick to the scenario i described.

GMMAT 06-07-2008 08:30 PM
RE: property lines
 
Fine. Have it your way. It's like polling the prisoners ....asking them if they'd hire an ex-con, though. I think you're gonna get a very skewed set of answers.

Sorry to interject.

And to answer your original......HELL NO I don't want a single, hunting neighbor of mine on my land retrieving anything without my knowledge. I KNOW my neghbors that hunt. They give us all a bad name.

jackflap 06-07-2008 08:38 PM
RE: property lines
 
We have never had any tresspassing problems so I guess I am a little more laid back about this than others.

I have no problem with a neighbor coming onto our property to recover a deer whether he asks ahead of time or not. But we get along with all three of our adjoining neighbors and we know everyone will respect each other's property and won't come on it unless there is a good reason. We have built trust over the years.

What DOES upset me as a hunter and landowner (has happened twice over the years) is when I find dead gun shot deer that went UNRECOVERED. I would much have preferred them to try and recover the deer.

Both times I found them, no one fessed up, so who knows, maybe it was tresspassers but I doubt it. Most likely, a gun hunter who never bothered to even look after a shot but instead said, "I am pretty sure I missed him and went to the house."

valor10 06-08-2008 10:19 AM
RE: property lines
 
The thread preachertony started about to shoot or not and to recover or not got me thinking.WE all have property lines right? Who here would try to stop someone from recovering a deer that was shot onyour neighborsproperty but ran over the property line and died on your side.If you would try to stop someone then tell us why,because we are all hunters right? Shouldn't we have better repect for oneanother.It just seems to me there of a lot of hard a*** here.I just don't get people who try to be an a-hole.
Better respect for one another? I'm a hard a$$ because I want to know who's wandering around my property and when? Your the one that doesn't get it. I like my neighbors, and before I cross onto THEIR property, I always ask permission. How's my wife supposed to know if somebody claiming to be a family memberor friend of my neighbor is legit. You take that kind of chance with your family? Your personnal property? Asking permission is a courtesy and shows respect. I gladly help track deer on my property that my neighbors have shot. Trespassing is ILLEGAL! That means it's against the law. That means you are a criminal when you do it. That means you have no respect for another persons property rights. There are no hunting rights. Hunting is a privilege. This reminds me of those who drink and drive. They just don't look at it as being criminal. They try to justify their breaking the law. I love beer. LOVE BEER! But if I drink and drive, I know the consequences of my actions if I get caught. Go ahead, trespass. If you get caught, no crying and calling the landowner a harda$$. You knew what you were doing before you stepped over that line.

treboryerf 06-08-2008 02:46 PM
RE: property lines
 
ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Fine. Have it your way. It's like polling the prisoners ....asking them if they'd hire an ex-con, though. I think you're gonna get a very skewed set of answers.

Sorry to interject.

And to answer your original......HELL NO I don't want a single, hunting neighbor of mine on my land retrieving anything without my knowledge. I KNOW my neghbors that hunt. They give us all a bad name.
Yea I suspected that about you from reading some of your post,ect.on here over the past year.You would be one of the hard ass I was talking about,glad I don't have people like you hunting around me,that attitude would suggest that you would rather see a deer spoil rather than someone cross over onto your land to recover it,which was the point of the whole post.I wanted to see who took that stance and your answer was predictable.

treboryerf 06-08-2008 02:50 PM
RE: property lines
 
ORIGINAL: jackflap

We have never had any tresspassing problems so I guess I am a little more laid back about this than others.

I have no problem with a neighbor coming onto our property to recover a deer whether he asks ahead of time or not. But we get along with all three of our adjoining neighbors and we know everyone will respect each other's property and won't come on it unless there is a good reason. We have built trust over the years.

What DOES upset me as a hunter and landowner (has happened twice over the years) is when I find dead gun shot deer that went UNRECOVERED. I would much have preferred them to try and recover the deer.

Both times I found them, no one fessed up, so who knows, maybe it was tresspassers but I doubt it. Most likely, a gun hunter who never bothered to even look after a shot but instead said, "I am pretty sure I missed him and went to the house."
This prett much is how I feel too,I think some people overreact about the whole thing,to me its no big deal if someone let me no ahead of time or not to get a shot deer,I too would rather see the deer recovered than not.

treboryerf 06-08-2008 03:04 PM
RE: property lines
 
ORIGINAL: valor10

The thread preachertony started about to shoot or not and to recover or not got me thinking.WE all have property lines right? Who here would try to stop someone from recovering a deer that was shot onyour neighborsproperty but ran over the property line and died on your side.If you would try to stop someone then tell us why,because we are all hunters right? Shouldn't we have better repect for oneanother.It just seems to me there of a lot of hard a*** here.I just don't get people who try to be an a-hole.
Better respect for one another? I'm a hard a$$ because I want to know who's wandering around my property and when? Your the one that doesn't get it. I like my neighbors, and before I cross onto THEIR property, I always ask permission. How's my wife supposed to know if somebody claiming to be a family memberor friend of my neighbor is legit. You take that kind of chance with your family? Your personnal property? Asking permission is a courtesy and shows respect. I gladly help track deer on my property that my neighbors have shot. Trespassing is ILLEGAL! That means it's against the law. That means you are a criminal when you do it. That means you have no respect for another persons property rights. There are no hunting rights. Hunting is a privilege. This reminds me of those who drink and drive. They just don't look at it as being criminal. They try to justify their breaking the law. I love beer. LOVE BEER! But if I drink and drive, I know the consequences of my actions if I get caught. Go ahead, trespass. If you get caught, no crying and calling the landowner a harda$$. You knew what you were doing before you stepped over that line.

It has nothing to do with respect,I respect my neighbors as much as the next guy,its a quetion of recovering a downed deer that would otherwise spoil,it is rather warm here alot of the time and a deer can start to go bad rather quickly,would you rather see a deer recovered or find a corpse because you don't want anyone on your land without your knowledge,I mean come on guys I'm not talking about someone hunting or just wondering around,I'm talking about recovering a downed animal that so many of you say it is all about the animal.


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