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I wouldn't want Gmmat for a neighbor either. He hangs around Rob. :eek: [8D] :D

Actually Gmmat would make a good neighbor in reguards to deer hunting. I bet he also wishes his neighbor would become your neighbor. Give you a year and see if you still feel the same. You might not be so quick to judge him on his stance. And not to worry... his neighbor doesn't ask if they can retreive a deer they shot on hishunting land nor did they ask pemission to hunt it. They just do it. [&:] [:'(]

Tim

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I am glad you have good neighbors. While I don'town land... I see what the boss and his neighbors go through ever year on the farm I work at. It is always interesting as not all get along to start with. I will say though that they respect each others property for hunting but it is the friends and relatives that are a pain in the arse that don't live in the immediate area. We are constantly kicking them off when they endup on the wrong property. We do it in a nice mannereven thoughthe land is clearly posted. It is a pain.

I have helped other who have had deer make it on to the boss property. Even when they shoot it on the boss's land. [:@] The boss won't press charges. I get along with all his neighbors and am allowed to hunt/shed hunt their land. Pays to be nice even when their relatives/friends wreck my hunts. Whileyou want to chew butt... youkeep in mind what it could cost you.

Truthfully if I had my own land... I would be a hard ass unless you were a very good neighbor.

Tim

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Hows the farming doing Tim? It needs to warm up around here to get these crops a moving!!

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Steve

While everything is up and looking good... we need some heat to get the corn growing faster. We got 1.35 " of rain which was much needed so sitting good there. Nice to see the country greening up finally.

How is your area doing?? You must have oak in your huntingarea?? While we don't it looks like a banner year for apples andwild plum in the abandoned farmsteads/farmsteads and in town here. Tons of blossums this year even with the cold, frostyspring we had. Going to be a lot of clover and alfalfa in the CRP this year in my area. Looks to be a banner year for antler growth and raising fawns fi the yotes aren't too hard on them.

Tim

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Past actions dictate which neighbors are allowed unrestricted access rights.
That said, there are only 2 (of 8 different groups) that have such permission.
Most of the rest can recover ONLY if they contact us first.
There are 2 that will not be allowed under any conditions and will be in court if they try.
All have put themselves in their respective postions.

Steve

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Thats good! Our crops in the area have been very slow in getting going. Its been very cool here for the most part, it wasn't just to long ago (10 to 11 days ago) that we had frost warnings in the Northern half of the state. I'd say the fields around here are a good 3 weeks to a month behind. We been getting rain, we really need the sun more then anything. We've got a good share of oaks and the clover is doing alright too I guess.

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My neighbors are my parents on one side and grandparents on another.My neighbors to the north I do not know very well and although they seem very nice I would expect the common courtesy of them asking permission before they came onto my farm to track a deer (which doesn't matter anyway because they don't hunt). It is just what well mannered people do in my opinion, unless they already have some prearranged agreement.

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I see no more difference in this scenario than if your car broke down and you went to the farmers house to ask to use his phone to call for a tow truck.If he is not home do you go in and use his phone,I mean your really not hurting any thing are you?



Yea I know you'd use your cell,but thats not the point now is it.:eek:

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I agree that a hunter should always ask permission first, and if they cant be reached leave a note...

But, I fail to see how walking on someone's farm is the same as entering their house? Those are defined differently by law, why are they the same thing here?..

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Like most other things, this is a complex issue. If somebody has behaved irresponsibly then i can understand not wanting them on your land no matter what. But on the other hand, just because you have had a bad experience with one person doesnt really justify denying anyone else the right of retrieval. It is kind of like refusing to let the neighbors kid come into your yard to get his soccer ball just because another neighbor kid soaped your windows during Halloween.

Call me overly mellow, but I get along with everybody who owns land anywhere near mine, and I dont care if they go on my property to get a deer whether they ask permission or not. I just dont dwell on stuff like that, but that attitude could change after some bad experiences, i guess.

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My neighbors all have one written permission ticket to get a deer off of my land. However, I have it specified that there has to be recognizable blood trail to cross the line. If someone in their party happens to hit one, then my neighbor has to accomapny the person and have the letter in hand. All my posted signs state that writen permission must be in hand.

My neighbor won't even give me that. He personally has to ****** me if I happen to hit something that crosses over.

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No, it doesn't justify it, but that's the main reason people won'tgrant permission to hunt on their properties/retrieve deer.

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If I caught you sneaking on my land or sneaking into my house the results would not be favorable for you.
Hey you can see the phone thru the screen door what would it hurt?

The answer to this dilemma is to not put your self in this situation. Know their names and numbers before the season starts and if you run into some one that will not let you enter so be it ,chose your stand site's and weapons accordingly. Why ruin your hunt and their day over something that with a little planning could be avoided.

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For those of you that have never experienced how far others will go,read this months bow hunter magazine.
The story is about a guy that kills a beautiful buck ,but not before showing pictures to a neighbor. this guy chose money over morals and sold hunting rights to some unscrupulous pro hunters and videographer's .The only thing missing in the story are the names of the slim balls.
Curt Wells the equipment editor post here maybe he would care to divulge a little more info.

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Sorry Jim I will stop baiting your spots on your land:D next time I will ask, but your deer love those carrots[:-]

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Gary..Gary.. Gary..It must be the long winters up there. We bait fish hooks and we shoot the deer. My deer are far more fond of purple top turnips & whitetail deer clover thats what you'll find in my food...."bait" plots..[:-]

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You need to mix the carrots in, gives your bait plots a nice color:D

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I think they would go better in a nice venison stew.;)

I have to get some mowing done tonight I''l try to get pics.Clover is knee high.[:-]Need more deer to eat it.:)

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if they called or knocked on the door to ask i'd go with 'em to keep an eye on em and for the fun of going. plus it's always nice to know what's being taken out of the herd

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No I really don't the two are that simalar,there is a difference.

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I can see that being the case.Some people bring it on themseves trhough their actions .

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Hmmmm. Mind telling me where this "right of retrival" law exsists in the Virginia game laws, or Virginia civil laws? Another state perhaps. Your state maybe? Do you get upset when neighbors ride their ATV's all over your property without your permission?It's not a matter of a bad experience with one person. It's a matter of too many folks taking liberties with a privilege. So I control the privilege. As do most land owners. Had a friend a few years backwho almost got killed on his own land hunting, by a trespasser. Fella claimed he was "tracking a woundeddeer", and thought my bud was his game. Imagine that? He was prosecuted, and lucky he didn't go to jail forfelony assalt charges.