idahoelkinstructor

I beg to differ on that, if you go to Vegas at the indoor shoot you will mostly find pure aluminum arrows being shot. Aluminum is great because it is the same from arrow to arrow in weight and spine, also overall they are much more staight out of the box compared to carbon. The down side is they can bend, that is why I like the mixed carbon and aluminum arrows. I have tried A/C Supeslims, Axis Full Metal Jackets, and recently ACC's. IMO these are the best of the best arrows on the market. Its the best of both worlds, the durability of the carbon and the straightness and consistancy of the aluminums.

wis_bow_huntr

Efficient?????? You mean cost wise or the killing aspect. If youre talking about cost I understand, if youre talking killing efficiency, I have to disagree with you. Ive recovered 98% of the deer I have shot with aluminums with great blood trails, my cousin has recovered about 90% since he switched to carbons....Hes a damned good archer and has quite a few trophies for 3d shooting and whats on his walls...

Schultzy

Your learning more about Aluminums and I'm learning more stuff on Carbons. I'm still not switching though Swift!!

Paul L Mohr

Umm, in most cases an aluminum will fly better because like we have said they usually have better tolerances and quality control. You have to spend quite a bit of money to get really good carbons that would compare to some of the cheapest aluminums as far as quality control and consistency goes. That is one of the reasons I use them, they are just a great value. I have had Jazz youth arrows that performed better than midgrade target Goldtips. Really pissed some guys off too when we put them on the arrow spinner and my kiddy arrows were straighter than their target arrows were. Carbons get better every year though, I will give them that.



Well, I do. Of course the heavier aluminum arrow will hit harder and have more KE out of the same bow, it will have more momentum as well which is even more important. It is simple science a heavier object propelled with the same amount of energy will retain that energy longer and have more resistance to slowing down or stopping than a ligther object will. The material really doesn't matter a whole lot. It does to a point, but if the arrows are of the same spine it shouldn't be a big factor. Now if one arrow had a much weaker spine than the other it might effect penetration depending on what it hits. Spine determines how the arrow flexes, if one arrow flexes less than the other than it has a different spine, I don't care what it's made out of. When you see pictures of aluminum arrows hitting a target and whipping around, then a carbon arrow hitting the same target but not doing it chances are the spine was diffrerent. If it doesn't flex the same when it hits something, it's not going to flex the same coming out of your bow either.

Paul

jdbowhunter

I don't mean to stir the pot, Paul. But, you are not exactly correct in your statement regarding the aluminum arrow being heavercausing it to have more energy and hit harder than a carbon arrow. When arrows are shot out of the same bow at the same poundage, the difference in kinetic energy will be around 1 footpound more with the heavier arrow, not a significant difference. What you gain in weight, you lose in speed and vice versa. However, you are correct that the heavier arrow retains energy more efficiently down range than it's lighter brother. However, the significance again is minor. I have taken game with both aluminum and carbon arrows and still shoot both for different applications. Ifwe test our equipment and are shooting enough kinetic energy toget the job done, either product will give satisfactory results if we do out part.

907Alaska

There is no real argument for banning carbon...if so...then next as bowhunters will be looking at, reasoning and thought, of banning something else....Carbons are here to stay

TexasBowHunter

Ok, let's go over this again....You say that a carbon arrow will not break when a aluminum will....I say NO WAYa carbon arrow given the same amount of side force will snap in a minute, I will even say that a carbon (with side force) will break easier than an alluminum arrow. Carbon only has so much of a bending property, once you bend it so far it snaps where as an alluminum shaft is bent. With that being said you have no case for this argument, the whole thread should be deleted. This is not a which is better question, I am not bashing alluminum's I have them....The pointI am making is that you don't have have your information correct,CARBON ARROWS BREAKAND ARE BRITTLE GIVEN SIDE FORCE.

SwampCollie

Thats the beauty of them... and ACCs. You won't get one through the arm. However I personally think the FMJs aren't exactly as tough as they sound... I had an experience. Its not really a relative archery experience (I dropped a rubber boot on one accidentally and collapsed it like a drink straw in a thick milkshake). They aren't designed for it... but I was suprised how little it took to break one.

Wingbone

Great!
You guys have put my concerns to rest. If carbons are not as unbreakable as they are touted to be, then my premise was based on erroneous information.
But, Texasbowhunter, as far as having thisthread deleted... I thought that is what this forum is for; to bring up subjects and discuss them. I am now better informed because of it. I had a concern. Rather than stew about it, I brought it to the forum. I am not sure why it should be deleted?

TexasBowHunter

You are right, that is what this forum is for. MaybeI should have re-phrased that, my bad. I was just trying to make a point that the thread had no substance if you took that factor out of it. Didn't mean it in a rude way by no means. Some of the other postings were headed in another direction than what you first intended (which was better carbon or alluminum) and I was trying to steer it back to your original post.