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RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low Not only can I not tell the difference between doe and buck bedding areas, I can't even pinpoint exact bedding areas, LOL (other than one specific little woodlot in IL). For me, it is more of a general thing that specific parts of the ground I stay out of, because I see deer going into them in the mornings/out in the eve's. It makes it even harder when I see so many early season bucks coming to feed right with other deer. The biggest early season buck I ever saw was in that first midday hunt I described in the acorn flat. He was a super wide and big deer, and stood there sucking up acornsamongst 13 other deer for about 30 minutes. I just happened to be about 30 yards too far, LOL. The theory he presents may be right on, but for me, planning and hunting around when deer want to move (based on my earlier post) is more productive. I wish I could narrow it down enough to be able to capitolize on that kind of separation. Walk your property and keep track of all the beds and their sizes. You should be able to find where the bucks and does are bedding. |
RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
ORIGINAL: magicman54494 Have you heard of the Beniot family? They are from Vermont and they track deer. Between the family they have Probably 200 years of tracking experience. I was shocked to read that on full moon nights the bucks don't move much during the night. I always used to believe that they traveled more and thats why my sightings went way down during the day. Now match that with movement corrolating with moon overhead or under foot and it makes sense to hunt the mid day on full moon periods. I would like to add that the Benoits claim that deer prefer dark gloomy nights. Thats when they see the most new tracks. |
RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
I've got a book written by Jeff Murray (think that's his name) and Myles Keller regarding hunting moon phases. There's alot of good info in there, makes alot of unexplained stuff make sense.
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RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
Have you heard of the Beniot family? They are from Vermont and they track deer. Between the family they have Probably 200 years of tracking experience. I was shocked to read that on full moon nights the bucks don't move much during the night. I always used to believe that they traveled more and thats why my sightings went way down during the day. Now match that with movement corrolating with moon overhead or under foot and it makes sense to hunt the mid day on full moon periods. I would like to add that the Benoits claim that deer prefer dark gloomy nights. Thats when they see the most new tracks. |
RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
killed a doe at 11:00am opening day of firearm
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RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
ORIGINAL: magicman54494 Have you heard of the Benoit family? They are from Vermont and they track deer. Between the family they have Probably 200 years of tracking experience. I was shocked to read that on full moon nights the bucks don't move much during the night. I always used to believe that they traveled more and thats why my sightings went way down during the day. Now match that with movement correlating with moon overhead or under foot and it makes sense to hunt the mid day on full moon periods. I would like to add that the Benoit's claim that deer prefer dark gloomy nights. Thats when they see the most new tracks. |
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RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
ORIGINAL: magicman54494 Have you heard of the Beniot family? They are from Vermont and they track deer. Between the family they have Probably 200 years of tracking experience. |
RE: Killing/seeing deer in the middle of the day...
Good read guys,
My 2 cents...It has been my experiance that deer movement is low in the mornings and evenings around full moon nights, all else being equal. Moon position plays a significant role in deer movement in summer and early fall, and to a much lesser extent other times of the year. Glass for deer offseason when the moon is right overhead in the evening or morning and you will be amazed. As for the original question, I hunt all day during the rut, other than somtimes taking a short break around 10. I have never killed a buck in an unpressured setting around mid-day, but have seen a few eight years bowhunting. They generally are up and moving early afternoon. It has been my experiance deer during the rut seem to take a break 10-12, then get back on their feet in the early afternoon. Its just a general rule though. |
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Another reason mature bucks avoid doe's and move later in the day. During the winter doe groups or herds attract predators, which are looking for the old and weak. Then they attract predators again during the spring and summer because they are dropping fawns and nursing. When fall comes around they attract a new predator, which is about 98% of all deer hunters. Some are meat hunters and their doing exactly what they should be. Some claim to be trophy hunters, because they hold out and let deer walk, but they still hunt doe groups, doe patterns and doe schedules. They were taught that this is how you deer hunt by generations of meat hunters. If your hunting where several slick trails come together, the area is scattered with rubs and a couple of big scrapes, don't climb down right after the doe's move through, you never know when the biggest buck of your life will show up to scent check between 10 and 2. Oh, those are also very aggressive all year long and bucks are gentle giant Jan to Oct.
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