Cam Buckle vs Rachet style help
 

I have been using the pain in the butt to me rachet style straps for years. I just bought the cam style straps are these
safe for tree stand hunting? I bought them because what seems ease of use.

Thanks,
T

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ah come on tony, don't ya just love ratchets when just dont quite get enough slack pulled through ..you crank it down and your one ratchet or two away and it balls up and wont tighten any more.. then ya get to start over! LMAO

I have the ratchets, lots of them and dont mind them but my cam buckle strap on my Nontypical stand is the cats meow..

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IMO, the only safe strap is the one that comes with the stand andnone needed past that if hung right.

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If your talking about the cams that have the floating knurled rod in them, i think its ok but if your refering to the spring loaded push button cams then there is no way i would do that. make sure, we dont want to loose our bartender :D

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It always seems to happen to me that I leave a few stands up a little longer than I'd like, and when I go to retrieve them, ratchet straps seem easier to remove than the knurled rod type cam straps. Maybe it's just me though...

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Ok here is the ones I got:

LOL Troy

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Peak those are the push button type. I would not trust them for a stand. My brother in law was hauling home a brand new big screen tv held in place with that kind. He rounded the first cuve slowly and they let go..the Tv ended up on the ground [X(]JMO!!

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Take them back. The hooks really suck, if anything get the straps that are endless(no hooks). I just use the straps that come with my Lone Wolf, cam style not the ratchet type, never had a problem!

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Yep, I'd trust them for a pushmower, but not my life.

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Peakrut I sell straps and in my experiance DO NOT trust a cam buckle it will only let you down.

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Tony, I thought you were referring to the type like on my Nontypical.. slides through and you rotate it 180 degrees and it slams shut...definately not a TIE DOWN Strap ... those will not hold very well.. they are good for tieing down quads in the back a truck..bout it.

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I hate ratchet straps. The only cam type straps I use are the ones with my Lone Wolf sticks and Assault, and they are the push lever type.

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Ok Thanks for all your help I will stick with the ratchet style straps. The lone wolf strap lever looks about the same as the ones I have in my pic on page 1.
But safety is key here so I appreciate the help.


T

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I can guarantee you wouldn't think like that if you weighed 325lbs.;) I use the strap (or chain) that comes with the stand, then I use a heavy duty 2in ratchet strap at the top of the stand (right above the factory strap/chain) and a 1in ratchet strap at the bottom of the stand. That sucker ain't moving when I go to step onto it!:)

Sure it's a PITA to put it up......but when I consider the alternative it ain't so bad.

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Dan

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No...I do still think that. If the strap isn't enough to be safe for you, then neither is the stand itself. It either is rated for your weight or it isn't, and that has nothing to do with the strap. JMHO.

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I'm almost the same way, I add at least asingle ratchet strap at the bottom of the frame of any stand I'm gonna leave out for extended periods, to really suck everything down and keep it from shifting. I'm not generally one to trust my life to the notion that I'm gonna put all my eggs in one basket (one strap).

All things manmadecan and do fail and I don't want to be the one in a million who hits the busted skull lottery.

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we use those on our stands

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For hang ons I only use ratchet straps. Yes, the cam style are easier, but I know those ratchet straps are locked in and not going anywhere. I'm not a big fan of heights, and less of a fan of falling from them so I'm pretty anal when it comes to that stuff.

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So a stand that comes with one strap is more stable than one that has three holding it to the tree? A single strap can fail and with my weight I'm not about to take that chance. Plus when I hunt sometimes I'm forced to make an awkward shot, from an angle perhaps. With one strap attached (evencorrectly) the stand can shift at the bottom, again not somethingI want happening when I'm leaning around the tree to make my shot.

Even the stands that have two straps (or one strap and one chain) they are most likely the cam buckle type strap and they can and do loosen over time depending on weather, temperature, age, etc... It's a whole lot easier to adjust and re-tighten the straps with a ratchet type than a cam type,a couple additional "clicks" and you're secure again.

Manufacturers only include a single strap or a chain and strap, (most of the time it's a the cam buckle type) NOT because that's all that's needed but because it's the minimum they can get away with and still provide a "safe" product yet save on production costs in order to turn a better yield.

If you feel safe with the type of attaching hardware that comes with the stand good on you, I value my life and well being a little more than the cost of some good heavy duty ratchet straps.;)It's a no brainier for me and again if you weighed 325lbs you'd have a different outlook in it. I've got stands rated for 350lbs and ones rated for 300lbs and the straps/chains provided with themare exactly the same, the stand it's selfis a little beefier for the 350lb+ stand but the mounting hardware was the same....cheap slip cam buckle strap on the bottom and chain for the top, no thanks. I've never, nor will I ever rely ONLY on he straps supplied with my stands. JMHO

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I always have 2 straps on my stands. My Lone Wolf has 2 buttons for 2 straps I use them both! My other lock ons have only 1 strap that come with it and I use a endless ratchet strap as a second one for safety. With my climber I use ratchet straps as well for the safety factor! Takes me a couple of extra minutes to do and never see it as a bad idea! I owe it to my family to be safe! I always wear a harness!

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Cam buckles are okay but I prefer the rachet straps . I change them every two years as i leves my stands up year round . If someone wants to climb up and cut the cable locks , they are welcome to the stands . I have over 12 stands on 4 different properties and more to put up ......

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For lock on stands the regualr ratchet strap works just fine because you usually put it up once and leave it all season.

For a climber I much much prefer to use the cam buckles like the pic below, NOT the cam buckles that use the springy knurled piece that you pull tight and that's it.
They are every bit as secure as a ratchet but create far less noise, quicker to set up and take off, lighter in weight and pack up much smaller in size.