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Schultzy 05-22-2008 09:00 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 
I really don't care for these discussions but just like you guys I stand proud on what I believe in as well.

brucelanthier 05-22-2008 09:12 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 

ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


You still haven't explained how even shooting arrows out of a gun will prevent you from passing the bowhunting tradition on to your daughter.

My daughter just turned 7 and she got a recurve for her birthday. I currently hunt with a compound yet it doesn't prevent me from teaching my daughter how to shoot, and eventually hunt with, a recurve.

Your argument that allowing CB's (or arrows shot from guns) into archery season will "ruin" the tradition of bowhunting doesn't make any sense.
Not to you Bruce but it does to me. Like I asked earlier how long have you been involved with bow hunting and its Tradition?
You still haven't answered my question ;)but I'll answer yours and ask one more. I have been bowhunting for a year and a half. Now, how is that even relevent to this?
You just answered my question so now I can finally answer yours Bruce. The Tradition of bow hunting means a hell of allot more to me then it does to you being I've been around it forever and seen the change go in a wild crazy direction. 10 years from now Bruce kids are going to be doing everything the easiest way possible, hell there doing it now! I don't care how good of a parent you are or what you preach to your kids, times are changing and what was once somewhat difficult and actually took some thinking and muscle is soon out the window. Its no different then the kids in school using calculators in there math class and such. No one thinks and uses there own head anymore, lets find something or someone to do it for us, it will be easier that way. More people these days are fat and lazy because no one wants to work for anything anymore. All you here is give me, give me!
So you are saying that regardless of what you try and teach your daughter she is going to choose the easy route and use a crossbow unless they are not allowed during archery season? If kids are only going to take the easy route then why didn't you go with compounds instead of using a recurve? Why does the "tradition of bowhunting" mean so much to you? Weren't your parents good parents and didn't they "preach" to you the lessonsand the "tradition of bowhunting"that you live by to this day? YOU are a perfect example that what you said is not true LOL. You have a lot to learn about kids and parenting and since your daughter is young you may want to get started;).

Lanse couche couche 05-22-2008 09:17 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 
Its too bad that folks cant just concentrate on passing on the general tradition of hunting, rather than emphasizing a particular style at the expense of others. My son is gonna get exposed to shotgun, muzzleloading, compound bow, and crossbow hunting, and it isn't gonna matter to me if he picks one of them or elects to alternate the use of all of them. It is more important to me that he is out in the woods, not what he has in his hand when he is doing it.

Schultzy 05-22-2008 09:20 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 

ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


You still haven't explained how even shooting arrows out of a gun will prevent you from passing the bowhunting tradition on to your daughter.

My daughter just turned 7 and she got a recurve for her birthday. I currently hunt with a compound yet it doesn't prevent me from teaching my daughter how to shoot, and eventually hunt with, a recurve.

Your argument that allowing CB's (or arrows shot from guns) into archery season will "ruin" the tradition of bowhunting doesn't make any sense.
Not to you Bruce but it does to me. Like I asked earlier how long have you been involved with bow hunting and its Tradition?
You still haven't answered my question ;)but I'll answer yours and ask one more. I have been bowhunting for a year and a half. Now, how is that even relevent to this?
You just answered my question so now I can finally answer yours Bruce. The Tradition of bow hunting means a hell of allot more to me then it does to you being I've been around it forever and seen the change go in a wild crazy direction. 10 years from now Bruce kids are going to be doing everything the easiest way possible, hell there doing it now! I don't care how good of a parent you are or what you preach to your kids, times are changing and what was once somewhat difficult and actually took some thinking and muscle is soon out the window. Its no different then the kids in school using calculators in there math class and such. No one thinks and uses there own head anymore, lets find something or someone to do it for us, it will be easier that way. More people these days are fat and lazy because no one wants to work for anything anymore. All you here is give me, give me!
So you are saying that regardless of what you try and teach your daughter she is going to choose the easy route and use a crossbow unless they are not allowed during archery season? If kids are only going to take the easy route then why didn't you go with compounds instead of using a recurve? Why does the "tradition of bowhunting" mean so much to you? Weren't your parents good parents and didn't they "preach" to you the lessonsand the "tradition of bowhunting"that you live by to this day? YOU are a perfect example that what you said is not true LOL. You have a lot to learn about kids and parenting and since your daughter is young you may want to get started;).
Thats so like you Bruce, stab away man your getting real good at it!!! I did start off with a compound, you keep insinuating you know so much about me here! I made the switch 10 years later to my recurve.

Dnk 05-22-2008 09:21 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 

ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche

Its too bad that folks cant just concentrate on passing on the general tradition of hunting, rather than emphasizing a particular style at the expense of others. My son is gonna get exposed to shotgun, muzzleloading, compound bow, and crossbow hunting, and it isn't gonna matter to me if he picks one of them or elects to alternate the use of all of them. It is more important to me that he is out in the woods, not what he has in his hand when he is doing it.
Well lookie lookie, a adult with a mature attitude! Isn't that refreshing boys? Take notice little people and grow the frig up!

Lanse couche couche 05-22-2008 09:22 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 
Calling me mature is a bit of an overstatement. But, like they say, if a blind hog keeps rooting, sooner or later it will find an acorn.

brucelanthier 05-22-2008 09:29 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 

ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: Schultzy


ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


You still haven't explained how even shooting arrows out of a gun will prevent you from passing the bowhunting tradition on to your daughter.

My daughter just turned 7 and she got a recurve for her birthday. I currently hunt with a compound yet it doesn't prevent me from teaching my daughter how to shoot, and eventually hunt with, a recurve.

Your argument that allowing CB's (or arrows shot from guns) into archery season will "ruin" the tradition of bowhunting doesn't make any sense.
Not to you Bruce but it does to me. Like I asked earlier how long have you been involved with bow hunting and its Tradition?
You still haven't answered my question ;)but I'll answer yours and ask one more. I have been bowhunting for a year and a half. Now, how is that even relevent to this?
You just answered my question so now I can finally answer yours Bruce. The Tradition of bow hunting means a hell of allot more to me then it does to you being I've been around it forever and seen the change go in a wild crazy direction. 10 years from now Bruce kids are going to be doing everything the easiest way possible, hell there doing it now! I don't care how good of a parent you are or what you preach to your kids, times are changing and what was once somewhat difficult and actually took some thinking and muscle is soon out the window. Its no different then the kids in school using calculators in there math class and such. No one thinks and uses there own head anymore, lets find something or someone to do it for us, it will be easier that way. More people these days are fat and lazy because no one wants to work for anything anymore. All you here is give me, give me!
So you are saying that regardless of what you try and teach your daughter she is going to choose the easy route and use a crossbow unless they are not allowed during archery season? If kids are only going to take the easy route then why didn't you go with compounds instead of using a recurve? Why does the "tradition of bowhunting" mean so much to you? Weren't your parents good parents and didn't they "preach" to you the lessonsand the "tradition of bowhunting"that you live by to this day? YOU are a perfect example that what you said is not true LOL. You have a lot to learn about kids and parenting and since your daughter is young you may want to get started;).
Thats so like you Bruce, stab away man your getting real good at it!!! I did start off with a compound, you keep insinuating you know so much about me here! I made the switch 10 years later to my recurve.
LOL :eek:

NEW61375 05-22-2008 10:54 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 

ORIGINAL: NEW61375

Just a quick question Shultzy that stems from this statement:


put it in with the gun season. Pretty similar weapons.

Other than it's appearance/cosmetics and the draw being held mechanicallydo you feel there are other similaritiesto a gun?

As far as actually hunting with one aren't the limitations and characteristics of a crossbow and how they kill almost identical to most other archery equipment (more similiar to compounds than recurvesI know, just speaking in general)?

Just curiousas towhich characteristics are more important to you as far as puttinga weaponin a season. As high tech as compounds and crossbows are they are still very primitive(as far as killing)compared to modern firearms(imo).



Also:



original: valor10

Too many people living in grey areas these days. A crossbow is a step up from a compound. Sure, some of us love weapons of all sorts, nothing wrong with crossbows. It's a better weapon.It'd be tough for somebodywith a compoundto outshoot somebody at 30 yards with a crossbow in a tree withit beingrested. The whole idea of opening up crossbows for everybody during archery is to get more people involved in hunting. That's a good thing. Many of whom would never get involved in "archery" otherwise, because of the real or perceived difficulty of it. Is their such a thing as bad crossbow form? I think not.
I agree with a lot you said at the endthere and I can understand what you are saying about grey areas but I also don't believe in tunnel vision or oversimplifying something either. I feel you are looking at crossbows and compounds from a strictly shooting at a target perspective. Yeah if a guy with a crossbow is shooting off a rest at 30 yards and I am shooting my compound at the same range he can probably group better, not much better but I would agree at least a little better.

That being said there is a world of difference between doing that and sitting in a tree deer hunting. I found the crossbow to be heavy/cumbersome in the stand and while "shooting off of a rest" is being thrown around a lot and is great for target shooting how often will that apply in the woods? I find it easier to maneuver my compound in stand and also don't want to be anchored toa "rest" or need one to shoot comfortably/confidently. If a deer comes in and works around behind me I want to be able to stand and turn around and shoot at that deer witout having to worry about what to brace against or if the tree is in the way, or if I have enough room. My compound makes that much easier and is by far a better weapon in that department, to me.

That is all I am saying, ease of shooting with a weapon at a target and ease of hunting with that same weapon are not the same thing and each hunter has his/her preferences. You may feel crossbows are a step up from compounds and are better weaponsas far as simpleshooting but thereare alot more dynamics involved whenhunting witha weaponthat don't come into play when you arejust shooting it.
Nobody even acknowledges me, I must be a real tool.:DSuch is life.Forget about that, I want in on a pissing contest so here goes:

Longbows are dumb, they are too long. Only people that hunt high fenced ranches or giraffes would use that garbage.

Hell, evenindians quit using bowsonce they gotsomeguns,we should take a lesson from that.








;);)

NEW61375 05-22-2008 10:56 AM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 

ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche

Calling me mature is a bit of an overstatement. But, like they say, if a blind hog keeps rooting, sooner or later it will find an acorn.

Bold above is funny.:D

I thought it was a blind squirrel, I am so out of touch.

saxman1 05-22-2008 12:01 PM

RE: CrossBows are comming to town.
 
I have no problem with crossbows or any other legal weapon for hunting,Different strokes for different folks.I started shooting a crossbow with a disabled permit and now I can shoot vertical as well and plan to do both.
I support you right to choose different weapons or opinions.


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