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Do you know what you want?
Ok, more research. Thanks again in advance for your input.
EXCLUDING bows......Let's say you are going to your pro shop for a certain accessory, whatever that may be. Have you researched different ones on the internet, and pretty much know what you want when you walk in the door....Or, do you not have a clue really and look to the guys behind the counter for advice? Part II (multiple selection option on) If your shop does not have what you want, are you willing to wait for it while it is ordered, or do you go somewhere that has it in stock. This scenario is based on the assumption that it is not NEEDED right NOW. I know if you HAVE to have it, yer gonna go get it... So please vote on whether you know what you want or not, and whether you are willing to wait for it to arrive. |
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When I go to an Archery shop I know what I want before I get there, usually what the Archery shop says will not have an effect on what I want being I do know what I'm talking about in most cases, specially Traditional equipment. Depending on the shop I may wait till it comes in and buy it from them if there good people and treat me well. If there a bunch of no it alls like most of the shops around me are I'll just go to the next one who's got what I need and buy it there.
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I've come to the conclusion that most buyers are definitely buying on impulse when it comes to archery. The only thing that is going to hold someone up from going elsewhere to find it (other shop or internet) is a REALLY good relationship with your clients, and/or someone behind the counter that knows how to sell.
As far as knowing what you want when you walk in the door, I think that you will get skewed results on HNI. I do not think that the majority of archers are doing detailed research online before they buy, I think most see and/or hear about things on TV and in magazines and weigh that info equally with what the shop has to say about certain products. I know when I was behind the counter at the shop still and people asked me what I use.........that's what they bought the majority of the time. I wasn't the kind of guy to push specific things without being asked, but if people did ask my opinion I would suggest what I personally was using at the time and would explain why.I really sold a lot of stuff that way and people seemed to really listen to what I had to say. With this said, now that I'm no longer there and am on the consumer side of the counter in shops, I put very little stock into any recommendation that a shop might make to me (depending on who's suggesting). I do my own research and determine what I want, and if someone has something intelligent to say about something else I'll listen, but most of the time it's not going to sway my decision. |
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This a great series of questions for the shop owners. I research what I want on the internet, but I do not make up my mind until I have touched it and talked to people that I trust who have used it or at the very least been around it. I know there have been several times I have walked into my shop thinking I knew exactly what I wanted and been talked into a different product. My shop does a very good job about being honest and have talked me out of buying anything at all. If it is junk, it is junk and they tell you the way it is. Second part of the question. I will normally wait to have something ordered, but there are times when I just don't feel like waiting and I will go else were, but those time are far and few between. What I will not do is talk to the guys at the shop about a product and then go on-line and order because I could save a few dollars. That is just dirty IMO.
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I am fortunate to have a great shop very close. I know what I want when i go in, pretty much every time. But, from being there alot and doing work there, I will say that Matt is right, lots of people are buying on impulse. I'm amazed at how much I can sell just by saying, "Well, its what I use." Countless QAD rests and Maxima Hunter arrows are out there just because of that phrase.
One thing I will say that I have noticed, mostly because it is something I absolutely do not do, is call and price check. Their phone rings all the time for price quotes on things, not usually on bows either, but arrows are #1 and I would say that cost of fletching is the #2 question. Really burns me when you see someone at the shop and then they turn up a week later with new arrows from somewhere else after getting a price quote from you. |
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I know what I want and I'm willing to wait.
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I know what I want but I am always willing to take advice from someone who knows more about it than I do. I also typically will wait on my pro shop.
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I ask you guys whats out there and what works. Then I take all the conflicting info and sit here more confused then ever.
Actually I really appreciate all the expert advice I recieve here.:DI like to see the product in action before I buy it. I form an opinion then look at stuff first hand. Sometimes this changes my mind for me. I look for fool proof simple products that do the job well. If I want a certain product I will wait to get it. If the pro shop guy tries to sell me something else I will walk out. |
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As far as knowing what you want when you walk in the door, I think that you will get skewed results on HNI. And in having these questions answered, I can get a pulse for what people are wanting, and we can stock accordingly. There are SOOO many accessories out there, it is impossible to stock everything, unless you're bass pro or cabelas. Which we certainly are not. And, knowing whether folks will wait for what they want or not will help determine how much, and WHAT, to stock. |
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with accessories, i order online. do the reasearch and shopping online.
i get a feel of the accessory watching others shoot with them or seeing them in person while im in the shop for something else. i find the shops overprice the accessories compared to some of the places i can order them from. i dont mind a guy making a buck...but making 10 or more? not outta my wallet. i havent found an accessory i couldnt screw on myself.... when i cant get my arrows to fly true and cant get it tuned to save my life, i'll man up and goto the shop and pay them the money i saved to get me somewhat tuned :D but sights, stabs, quiver etc are pretty simple...the rest and anything in the string is all anyone aughta need a shop for....if you can screw on sights or a stab yourself...well....... im just a poor college kid. if i can find a way to save a couple bucks i will...if that means more tinkering and learning by trial and error in the back yard, well...oh well. |
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I chose, "PART II BELOW (seperation line, don't vote this option.LOL) " .....I'm sorry, Mobo ... I couldn't resist!!!
 so if you're wonderin' who voted that ...:eek:Anyway, I will find a source to buy what I want, because I want it now ... of course I'm not real fond of my proshop ....... Example: I totally outfitted my bow from Buellahunter (sp?) on HNI because I liked him and he had what I wanted, and what he didn't, he got it right away .... |
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I chose, "PART II BELOW (seperation line, don't vote this option.LOL) " .....I'm sorry, Mobo ... I couldn't resist!!!
so if you're wonderin' who voted that ...:eek:Anyway, I will find a source to buy what I want, because I want it now ... of course I'm not real fond of my proshop ....... Example: I totally outfitted my bow from Buellahunter (sp?) on HNI because I liked him and he had what I wanted, and what he didn't, he got it right away .... |
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Mauser......If your shop is overcharging by that much, I can't blame you. But an honest question......How much are you really saving when you factor in shipping charges? You know that the online companies we order from charge MORE than actual shipping, right? ;)
Besides, even if it is a couple bucks more, isn't it worth the relationship? |
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I normally know what I want when I go. I like to have a plan;). I'm not big on shopping, I don't normally go to a store unless I need something to begin with. I'm normally on a mission, I go get what I want and leave, especially if it's a big store. I want to get in and get out. That being said I will normally ask for someones input if it's something I haven't owned before. Whether I take it to heart or not depends on the shop or store I'm in. There are some peoples opinions I value, and others not so much:D.
Normally I will drive around until I find what I want if I really want it, or call ahead and see of someone has it. I am lucky though, I have quite a few archery shops near me as well as a Cabela's and a Bass Pro shop with another one the way. Not to mention a large sporting goods chain and Gander Mountain. I have a small Pro Shop within walking distance of where I live, but if they don't have what I want and I want it I will drive the 20 or 30 miles to Cabela's or Gander Mountain if they have it. Sometimes farther. Normally when someone tells me they can order something I say " So can I, and probably cheaper. I sort of wanted it today". Now if they have one on display to show me or let me play with and it's something I don't need right now I will wait until they get them in again. Or sometimes I may have a local shop order something for me simply because I don't like buying stuff over the internet. Paul |
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I usually know what I want before I go. I also check to make sure where I'm going has what I want so I don't wast a trip.
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I would also like to add I don't go crazy about letting the price of something effect my decision. By that I mean if my local shop has something I want and Cabela's has it for 2 or 3 bucks cheaper I'm just going to get it here. Also if if they have it in stock or can get it soon I will pay a little extra vrs ordering online to save a few bucks. Chances are I will wait just as long either way.
Now if it's a considerable amount for the same product I might go for the cheaper one, like say my shop has a rest for $100 and a bigger store has the same one for $75 or something. 25 bucks is quite a bit of money for me. However I have found my local shops usually match or beat some of the bigger stores on price. The only thing Cabela's has on them is the amount of inventory they carry. Paul |
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ORIGINAL: BigJ71 I usually know what I want before I go. I also check to make sure where I'm going has what I want so I don't wast a trip. PreacherTony.....Nice Avatar!! |
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ORIGINAL: PreacherTony ORIGINAL: BigJ71 I usually know what I want before I go. I also check to make sure where I'm going has what I want so I don't wast a trip. PreacherTony.....Nice Avatar!!
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RE: Do you know what you want?
ORIGINAL: BigJ71 ORIGINAL: PreacherTony ORIGINAL: BigJ71 I usually know what I want before I go. I also check to make sure where I'm going has what I want so I don't wast a trip. PreacherTony.....Nice Avatar!!
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Most of the time I have done Allot of research on what I want, and know exactly what i want when I walk through the door. Sometimes I will ask for more advice. And most of the time I will wait if they don't have it depending on how long it takes for them to get it in.
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i ask everyone here then research the pros and cons and then buy what i think to best suit me
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I do my research. I'll either know exactly what I want or have the choice between 2-3 items. Unless it's an item I am truly infamiliar with, and the shop guy some how convinces me he knows what he's talking about, I rarely listen to him. And if its a big chain type store they sound like peanuts adults to me.
And typically I want it when I do. I generally don't wait. |
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So what are you gonna call this archery shop you're opening up???:)
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I usually know what i want but i will hear other opinions that other people have. And if the shop dosen't have what i want i will get itsomewhere else.
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ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter So what are you gonna call this archery shop you're opening up???:) And, buckeye told me I was LONG overdue for a decent thread, so.....I started 4......LOL..........:D |
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ORIGINAL: Rick James I've come to the conclusion that most buyers are definitely buying on impulse when it comes to archery. The only thing that is going to hold someone up from going elsewhere to find it (other shop or internet) is a REALLY good relationship with your clients, and/or someone behind the counter that knows how to sell. As far as knowing what you want when you walk in the door, I think that you will get skewed results on HNI. I do not think that the majority of archers are doing detailed research online before they buy, I think most see and/or hear about things on TV and in magazines and weigh that info equally with what the shop has to say about certain products. I know when I was behind the counter at the shop still and people asked me what I use.........that's what they bought the majority of the time. I wasn't the kind of guy to push specific things without being asked, but if people did ask my opinion I would suggest what I personally was using at the time and would explain why.I really sold a lot of stuff that way and people seemed to really listen to what I had to say. With this said, now that I'm no longer there and am on the consumer side of the counter in shops, I put very little stock into any recommendation that a shop might make to me (depending on who's suggesting). I do my own research and determine what I want, and if someone has something intelligent to say about something else I'll listen, but most of the time it's not going to sway my decision. |
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ORIGINAL: mobow ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter So what are you gonna call this archery shop you're opening up???:) And, buckeye told me I was LONG overdue for a decent thread, so.....I started 4......LOL..........:D |
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While researching what I want I might go to the shop and ask advice, but I've taught myself not to buy during this stage. I usually end up buying a more expensive product than I originally intendedbut I don't usually regret anything I buy.
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