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Bowtech Commander
Questions for you Bowtech guys. I was thinking of trying a longer ATA bow like the Commander. I've noticed that the '08 models have a different cam system than the 07's. As far as I know, they didn't change the cam system on the Guardians for '08 (except for color). So I was wondering why theychanged theCommander? Was there problems with the design of the '07 Commander? I haven't shot any of the Commanders yet. I was just wondering if I should stay away from the '07 for some reason. I also want to give the Guardian a try as well, but I was just thinkingofa longer ATA bow for more forgiveness since I already have a couple of bows that are 33" ATA. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!!
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I was just wondering if I should stay away from the '07 for some reason. It's just a pity my neck wont let me shoot my Compounds. |
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I, too, like longer ATA bows. Haven't tried a Commander yet. The local Bowtech dealer kinda made a face when I mentioned the Commander - made some comment along the lines that the General (which I have tried) was the bow to own in the Bowtech lineup. As much I like the Vectrix XL over the regular Vectrix, it seems logical the Commander would be a real sweetheart.
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Haven't tried the General, but it is just too short for my preference. My preferenceis a bow that is at least 33 inches ATA. I have two with those current specs. So I was wanting to try something a tad longer to see if there was much difference. I've heard a lot of positive feedback about the Bowtech center pivot design. So I thought the Commander might be worth a try. I will also try the Guardian again. I just figured it is already close to the same specs as my current bows. Just thought of trying something different. Any info you can provide (pros/cons) on the Commander '07 and '08 would be appreciated. I've also only owned single cam bows so far. So what is the draw cycle and back wall feel like on the Commander?
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The guy I shoot with at every archery event bought a 2007 Commander and as far as I know he really likes it. He does however say that its a bit heavy, but he is a really small guy too. Also, when he draws it I've noticed that it jerks close to the end of the draw cycle-fairly hard-at least for him. It shoots great though and he's happy with it. I don't know why they changed the cams on the 08s but my guess would be to smooth out the draw. I know you said you didn't like a less than 33 ATA, but you ought to try the General, just to see. I said the same thing when I was shooting my Guardian, but then I shot the General. Its not 33 ATA but it is forgiving with its 8 1/4" BH.
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I bought a commander last year and love it no problems what so ever,I never have to worry about it just pull it out and shoot it.It is the sweetest bow I have ever owened,if you like the longer ata then you can't go wrong with the commander,either model would be fine.
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I don't know why your dealer would have made a face when mentioning the Commander. I had one last year and it shot great. I'm just a little different than you and prefer the shorter ATA bows. Otherwise I'd still have it.
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The 08 Commander has a draw stop peg on the cam. The 07 didn't. This gives the 08 a bit harder wall. You can also make minor draw length adjustments with it.
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I've had my 07 since they came out, I bought the first one my shop had, and still have it. I was going to trade it for a 101 this year, but couldn't part with it. Best bow I've ever shot, and also the quietest one that's I've been around. Not sure what the jerking is that was mentioned above, sounds like operator error to me.The new cams are a little rougher on the draw than the 07, but the drawstop peg does make for a rock solid backwall. There is an '08 in Max-4 at shop right now..may have to add him to my stable. You will definitely be pleased with the Commander if you decide to go with it, but either way, go and shoot one and you'll see why the reviews are so positive.
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ORIGINAL: Roskoe I, too, like longer ATA bows. Haven't tried a Commander yet. The local Bowtech dealer kinda made a face when I mentioned the Commander - made some comment along the lines that the General (which I have tried) was the bow to own in the Bowtech lineup. As much I like the Vectrix XL over the regular Vectrix, it seems logical the Commander would be a real sweetheart. I can't imagine somebody making a face at you when you mention the commander, I have a 07' that has really impressed me. The shop here raves about them as well as the General. The only real difference is the commander is a bit longer.....I love mine and would not let the shop owner talk you out of one if you like the longer axle to axle bows and don't mind the added weight of a longer bow.....Commander is the quietest bow, with zero hand shock that I have ever put in my hands.....And still shoot in the 300 fps range with hunting shafts.....If anybody is out there looking for a longer bow I would recommend the commander to anyone of them without hesitation...... |
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I have owned a 07....actually the one that oilpatch shoots.....great bows...the only reason that I sold mine was a switch to LH for eye dominance reasons. I went to a 101 to see what they are all about...love it so far, but I am here to tell you that I can not see my self without a Commander in my future. Its a great bow.
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ORIGINAL: bowtechben I have owned a 07....actually the one that oilpatch shoots.....great bows...the only reason that I sold mine was a switch to LH for eye dominance reasons. I went to a 101 to see what they are all about...love it so far, but I am here to tell you that I can not see my self without a Commander in my future. Its a great bow. Once again thanks Ben...that is a sweet bow.... |
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I have read that a lot of shooters get a view of the cables through their peep sights with both the Commanders and the Guardians. This would bother me. Have any of you had this problem? If so, were you able to eliminate it by just adding an aftermarket cable slide? Does a different cable slide promote cam lean with these bows?
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I dont have this problem at all and I believe I have the stock cable slide....If that was happening it seems to me that your fletchings would hit the cables too...I just went and drew mine and the cables are just outside my view through the peep, however they are not within view....Western Outdoors, that would bother me too if it were happening......I was looking at the bow trying to figure out what would cause that and I don't see anything that would cause that....????
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ORIGINAL: oilpatchpride I dont have this problem at all and I believe I have the stock cable slide....If that was happening it seems to me that your fletchings would hit the cables too...I just went and drew mine and the cables are just outside my view through the peep, however they are not within view....Western Outdoors, that would bother me too if it were happening......I was looking at the bow trying to figure out what would cause that and I don't see anything that would cause that....???? I was just thinking of picking up a used Commander in good shape, but unfortunately I can't try one out around here. I guess I can seehow the Guardian feels to me. Other than the obvious ATA difference, how do the Guardian and Commanderfeel side by side (draw, back wall, shot)?Your opinions, which would be better forstrictly hunting(Guardian or Commander)?I have 29" draw and shoot 65lbs. Thanks for everyones input. |
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ORIGINAL: western outdoors ORIGINAL: oilpatchpride I dont have this problem at all and I believe I have the stock cable slide....If that was happening it seems to me that your fletchings would hit the cables too...I just went and drew mine and the cables are just outside my view through the peep, however they are not within view....Western Outdoors, that would bother me too if it were happening......I was looking at the bow trying to figure out what would cause that and I don't see anything that would cause that....???? I was just thinking of picking up a used Commander in good shape, but unfortunately I can't try one out around here. I guess I can seehow the Guardian feels to me. Other than the obvious ATA difference, how do the Guardian and Commanderfeel side by side (draw, back wall, shot)?Your opinions, which would be better forstrictly hunting(Guardian or Commander)?I have 29" draw and shoot 65lbs. Thanks for everyones input. I haven't shot the general so I couldn't help you with that but hell I hadn't even shot a commander when I bought it from Ben....I have a 29 1/2 draw and the bow is set at 65 lbs.....I dont know where you live but if you are near conroe texas you can come shoot mine...... |
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