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MO_Bowhnter 05-15-2008 04:21 PM

For you Hang On stand guys
 
For you guys that set up hang ons everytime in and out like bowhuntingfool and Robin aimlow, how long does it take and what is the procedure you go through?

I have always wondered how this could be easier than using a climber because I hate hanging stands. Are the Lone Wolf's that easy to hang? The idea sounds great, especially if you already have some steps set up in various trees throughout your property...Just grab your 10 lb LW and go.

MeanV2 05-15-2008 04:28 PM

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I use the Folding detachable Cranford steps and have the Lags already in before hunting season. It's just a matter of clipping the steps on and climbing up.

Very Quick and Very Quiet!;)

Dan

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MO_Bowhnter 05-15-2008 04:50 PM

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I can see that if done correctly and practiced.....you can do this more quietly than a climber, maybe..

But, dont you sweat alot more ? I see guys whom bring ladder sticks into the woods with them, set them up and then climb up to hang the stand. WAY TOO MUCH WORK..
Exactly, this is what I'm referring to. How long does it take you guys to fully set up 3 steps and your stand.

After watching the lone wolf instructional videos, it's looking a little more appealing.


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dukemichaels 05-15-2008 05:25 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
I hang and re-hang my Lone Wolf(s) on a constant basis throughout the season.

MO.. it takes me about 6-10 minutes.. depending on various factors of course..

In the dark.. when I know the tree I want.. about 8-10 minutes.Very simple.. and very effective.

Brknarrow1970 05-15-2008 05:29 PM

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back when I used a lot more hang-ons would say about 10 mins with safety belt on and settled - problem is by the time you have the stand and steps almost to the weight of a climber -

MeanV2 05-15-2008 05:32 PM

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From the time I get to the base of the Tree 8 to 10 minutes, used to be quicker but I'm getting older;)

Nothing like senior citizen discounts when you buy a stand though![8D]

Dan

RobinAim Low 05-15-2008 06:12 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
If the steps are in already, 5 minutes. If I put in steps, add another 10-12. I use the one piece Cransford screw ins and you cannot believe how easy they are to put in.

Starting new: Unfold my stand, tie a rope to it and the other end to me. Put my steps in the pouch of my SOP harness. Put in bottom 3 steps, go up, attach climbing belt and start putting in steps. Space them even with one foot down, one up on step, next step goes in at my armpit level. Nearly always use 10 steps to equal about 19 feet. Steps in, keep left foot down, right foot up, haul stand up and hold it with left hand folded up against tree. Hook strap with right hand, pull snug, unfold stand, set it, unhook strap, step into stand, hook back up, set stand with body weight jolt next to tree. Done.

If I was alone, and not planning on coming back down for equipment, I use a second rope tied to the stand and tied to my stuff, bow included. Usually now though, a rope gets throw up to me so I can hang the camera stand too.

IMO, the key to hanging most any kind of loc-on type stand, strap or chain, is to realize that there is no need to get the chain or strap very tight. The stand becomes solid by unfolding it and sliding it downward ("setting it"). This creates the correct tension for stability.

Another key is the kind of steps. I simply cannot stress how effortless those Cransfords are to get started, and to get screwed in.

I have had deer come by me many times in the dark after I hung a stand and still hadn't pulled my bow up.

BowHuntingFool 05-15-2008 06:22 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
It takes me about 10 minutes to hang a stand from the minute I get to my tree! Sometimes I use 3 sticks and sometimes 4 sticks depending on the tree.

I hang the 1st stick, climb on that and hang the second stick and climb down.
I then tie my bow on to my Hoist rope and grab my stand rope to pull up my stand with.
I take the last stick and the 2 ropes go up, hang the 3rd stick, climb on that, pull up my stand, hang it, climb into it and pull up my bow and Good to hunt! 10 minutes tops!

Put it this way I bought a new Climber 2 years ago and used it 4 times and not once last season, thinking about selling it!;)

rybohunter 05-15-2008 06:32 PM

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I don't do it often, but at times I have4 lone wolf stix & a loggy bayou hangon that I can put up in around 15 minutes at a pace that doesn't make me sweat.

jbowersox 05-15-2008 06:36 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
I'm going this route this season. Screw in steps and a hanging stand. I'm thinking about the Gorilla Silverback Scout. 8.5 pounds and half the price of the Lone Wolf. I'm planning on pretapping some trees for the steps in August when I'm in PA so hopefully that will speed up the process.

MdDave 05-15-2008 06:37 PM

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summit copper head.... one stand as many trees u want! my plan this year is to have steps in what ever trees i want.. for this treestand all you need to do is put the straps in what ever trees you want then jus hook the stand on the strap... if you look it up youll understand what i mean...very slick idea

Greg / MO 05-15-2008 08:10 PM

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Even though I've owned a couple Summit climbers and now own a Lone Wolf Alpha hand climber, I'm still at heart a hard-core steps-plus-hang-on guy.

I probably hang between 75-100 stands every year, and have done so for over a decade now... it's very simple, super-effective and pretty quick. I'd say the guys above have mentioned times that are realistic if you know what you're doing: 10 minutes or so is pretty attainable from start to scanning the woods for movement after you're perched in your seat.

Come shoot Festus with us this weekend, and I'll walk you through how I do it... I'm saving the writing fora story I'm putting together for a magazine. ;)

Greg / MO 05-15-2008 08:13 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
Oh. I will tell you this secret, since I won't get to mention specific manufacturers in my article: buy Cranford's steps. Hands down, no-questions-about-it... the very best there is, and will make ALL the difference in how easily you can do this. Period. Don't even think about buying anything else. Trust me on this one -- and yes, I pay full retail for my Cranfords; I'm not "affiliated" with them as someone puts it. ;)

I've got four Lone Wolf sticks too with my Alpha Hang-On, and they're very nice too.. but I still think I'd prefer nine Cranford steps over the sticks.

RobinAim Low 05-15-2008 10:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Trust me on this one -- and yes, I pay full retail for my Cranfords; I'm not "affiliated" with them as someone puts it. ;)
Same here.

MeanV2 05-16-2008 04:14 AM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 

ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low


ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Trust me on this one -- and yes, I pay full retail for my Cranfords; I'm not "affiliated" with them as someone puts it. ;)
Same here.
X3!!:D

Dan

stikbow26 05-16-2008 04:51 AM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
I use all Lone Wolf right now and you can't beat it!!! I am right there on the time with everyone else but mine is about 15 minutes because I am always hanging two stands one for the cameraman!!! Walt

MeanV2 05-16-2008 04:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: stikbow26

I use all Lone Wolf right now and you can't beat it!!! I am right there on the time with everyone else but mine is about 15 minutes because I am always hanging two stands one for the cameraman!!! Walt
Walt, You are a nice Guy!!

Make him hang his own![8D]

Dan

Cougar Mag 05-16-2008 05:37 AM

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I hang my stands using Cranford also, have used them for as long as I can remember.......safest screwin steps on the market. Personally I prefer the rod steps though they are more bulky. For my run and hunt setup I use my Lone Wolf Assault and the Lone Wolf climbing sticks....I can put the sticks up and hang the Assault fairly quickly, and if I need to go higher I carry a few Cranfords to put up toward the top.

jbowersox 05-16-2008 08:27 AM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
Which Cranford steps are you guys using and which do you recommend? I think the kind I have are Ameristep. My complaint with them is tapping into smooth barked trees. Are the Cranford's that much better?

brucelanthier 05-16-2008 08:52 AM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
I mostly use a Lone Wolf Alpha and 4 Lone Wolf climbing sticks. I can hang it pretty fast but have come to the conclusion that there is no real need to hang it in 10 minutes so I take my time. Whether it takes 10 minutes or 25 minutes you have still become a "presence" in that part of the woods and it will take the animals (squirrels, birds, etc.) a bit of time to become used to you. Unless it is the time of year when deer (bucks) can be moving any time of the day I just get to my spot and hour or two ahead of the time I expect to see deer movement. I also hunt 90% public land so there are no screw in steps and permanent stands allowed.

I guess I don't ascribe to the notion that speed is essential when getting into a tree.

MeanV2 05-16-2008 10:04 AM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 

ORIGINAL: jbowersox

Which Cranford steps are you guys using and which do you recommend? I think the kind I have are Ameristep. My complaint with them is tapping into smooth barked trees. Are the Cranford's that much better?
All of Cranfords steps are great for screwing into a tree.

"Best screw in the Business"

I use the fold up detachable steps, but they are all great!!

Dan

RobinAim Low 05-16-2008 10:07 AM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 

ORIGINAL: jbowersox

Which Cranford steps are you guys using and which do you recommend? I think the kind I have are Ameristep. My complaint with them is tapping into smooth barked trees. Are the Cranford's that much better?
I like the one piece the best of the ones I have, but they all go in easily. Yes, that much better and then some. I know on a smoothbark tree I can have one all the way in in 15 seconds max.

stikbow26 05-16-2008 12:08 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
Dan if I did that I wouldn't have a cameraman for very long!!!

early in 05-16-2008 12:28 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
I put this safety belt together for holding my hang on and my bow. It allows hands free mobility when conecting the stand, and eliminates the need to pull up the stand or the bow. It features a lanyard with carabiner to work on any tree. What do you think?


MeanV2 05-16-2008 12:28 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 

ORIGINAL: stikbow26

Dan if I did that I wouldn't have a cameraman for very long!!!
I'm sure you wouldn't![8D]

Dan

Greg / MO 05-16-2008 03:13 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 

My complaint with them is tapping into smooth barked trees. Are the Cranford's that much better?
YES!


TexasBowHunter 05-16-2008 03:28 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
I hang ladders before season and some of my hang on stands.....I have a couple simple set ups I use for moving around during season......On the ranch I hunt out in west texas I use light weight tri pods as we dont have very many trees that will allow you to use a hang on or climber.....I will also use my double bull to move around or try out an area I have interest in....Normally all my stands are in place well before season, I found a spot of interest last season and put my stand up this last April for next season.....I kno0w a lot of you guys probably hunt state forest and can not leave your stands up throughout the year but I hunt private land and it is an option for me....Both places I hunt a climber would have you very limited b/c the trees that you could climb are very few and far between....But I do see where they would be quite a bit quicker....I just dont have the trees to make use of them......If I did I would probably try them out.....

Cougar Mag 05-16-2008 04:00 PM

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Which Cranford steps are you guys using and which do you recommend? I think the kind I have are Ameristep. My complaint with them is tapping into smooth barked trees. Are the Cranford's that much better?
Cranfords are well worth the extra money and are that much better! I also use the one piece(rod steps), though any of the Cranford Ezy Climb steps are great!

Greg / MO 05-16-2008 04:10 PM

RE: For you Hang On stand guys
 
I actually prefer the "deluxe" steps and have by far the most of these, though I've got abunch of the folding as well as 50 or so of the detachable steps Dan mentioned above...



Their patented screw is so nice I actually ordered a few of their bow holders just because they screw in the tree that much easier.

Rickmur 05-16-2008 04:55 PM

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So where do you buy these Cranfords. I did a search of cabelas and Bass Pro to no avail.

SteveBNy 05-16-2008 05:19 PM

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http://www.ezyclimb.com/

MeanV2 05-16-2008 06:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: SteveBNy

http://www.ezyclimb.com/
I carry them too:D

Dan


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