Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
05-10-2008, 07:57 AM
#11
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central Minnesota
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RE: Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
ORIGINAL: twildasin
no bait here its illegal! I did hunt over bait in New Brunswick for bear..Its so thick thats the only way to do it up there!
no bait here its illegal! I did hunt over bait in New Brunswick for bear..Its so thick thats the only way to do it up there!
05-10-2008, 08:33 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Fairbanks, AK
Posts: 3,132
RE: Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
Honest question....why on earth even bait the animal if your too embarrassed to show it on film?
If your going to bait the animal, why not just have a feeder out there and let it be known?
Seems pretty deceitful to me...
How long have you been filmin for, and for what production company?
ORIGINAL: DropTine249
Im not a big fan of baiting deer, I like to catch them on their natural travel routes. However, I do have feeders set up on the edge of crop fields and food plot fields.
For videoing, we do NOT allow the feeders to be shown, we usually dont hunt near them anyhow.
I dont think a bait pile represents what a hunting show should. I believe a hunting show should be educational and a challenge hunt. No feeders, no bait....Pure HUNTING. Seeing a mature buck shot on tv, while he is standing below a feeder, isnt exciting for me.
However, if you must bait, or its a tactic you truely believe in and employ, go fit it. If you want to video and feel that the bait will add to your success, do what I do in bare fields or cut crop fields that have been eaten down:
Get a large, quality lawn spreader. Fill it with corn, buck-o-la of whatever grain/grain mixture youd like and spread it out. If you want, do it in the woods. This will broadcast the feed over a larger area. It will be hard to see on film and appear more natural to wildlife.
Like I said, I do this late in the season. Ill spread anywhere between 5 -10+ bags in a field that deer travel through. Ill put out some kind of scent/scented feedto help them find it. 2 days later, Ill glass the field at night and see what poppin'.
Works great, and like I said, on film...it would be hard to notice.
Im not a big fan of baiting deer, I like to catch them on their natural travel routes. However, I do have feeders set up on the edge of crop fields and food plot fields.
For videoing, we do NOT allow the feeders to be shown, we usually dont hunt near them anyhow.
I dont think a bait pile represents what a hunting show should. I believe a hunting show should be educational and a challenge hunt. No feeders, no bait....Pure HUNTING. Seeing a mature buck shot on tv, while he is standing below a feeder, isnt exciting for me.
However, if you must bait, or its a tactic you truely believe in and employ, go fit it. If you want to video and feel that the bait will add to your success, do what I do in bare fields or cut crop fields that have been eaten down:
Get a large, quality lawn spreader. Fill it with corn, buck-o-la of whatever grain/grain mixture youd like and spread it out. If you want, do it in the woods. This will broadcast the feed over a larger area. It will be hard to see on film and appear more natural to wildlife.
Like I said, I do this late in the season. Ill spread anywhere between 5 -10+ bags in a field that deer travel through. Ill put out some kind of scent/scented feedto help them find it. 2 days later, Ill glass the field at night and see what poppin'.
Works great, and like I said, on film...it would be hard to notice.
If your going to bait the animal, why not just have a feeder out there and let it be known?
Seems pretty deceitful to me...
How long have you been filmin for, and for what production company?
My only point is, if you are going to bait, be honest about it. Why do you avoid showing bait on film? To make it seem as though you hunted them 'the hard way' while still taking the 'easy way'? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but that sure as heck seems like what you (or anyone...I don't want to single you out) are doing.
It just doesn't seem right to me. If you are baiting, be honest about it. I thinkit isfar worsefor a video to hide the fact they are baiting in attempts to create a "pure hunting" video than it is to openly admit the deer were baited for the film.
05-10-2008, 08:51 AM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern Wisconsin
Posts: 1,161
RE: Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
i dont see why not! most of the pro hunters or tv shows use bait, you just cant see it, they just spready minerals and corn or watever all over the area they hunt in and the reason why i know this is because my best friends dad hhunted with a few programs and thats what they did.
05-10-2008, 09:26 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wilmington NC
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RE: Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
I say to each his own .... why care what someone else does legally???????????????????????????
I say to each his own .... why care what someone else does legally???????????????????????????
.Brent
05-10-2008, 01:19 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: IL./Iowa Boarder
Posts: 1,621
RE: Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
I have hunted over baits in states where it is legal & have no problem with it-on or off film.
Let's face it, everyone planting that food plot is (in a sense) baiting.
You see it everywhere.
I my home state baiting IS NOT legal & I do not plant food plots but you will see my stand close to a farmers corn, beans or whatever when possible. Everything has to eat.
Let's face it, everyone planting that food plot is (in a sense) baiting.
You see it everywhere.
I my home state baiting IS NOT legal & I do not plant food plots but you will see my stand close to a farmers corn, beans or whatever when possible. Everything has to eat.
05-11-2008, 12:04 PM
#17
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin/Michigan
Posts: 9,679
RE: Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
ORIGINAL: Oneshot7
That says it all right there, worry about what the illegal guys are doing .
Brent
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
I say to each his own .... why care what someone else does legally???????????????????????????
I say to each his own .... why care what someone else does legally???????????????????????????
.Brent
05-11-2008, 08:03 PM
#20
Fork Horn
Join Date: May 2006
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Posts: 169
RE: Bait Piles,Bow Kills, And Video. I say NO
If it is legal and the video is up front about it, I wouldn't mind it. I may not choose to buy the video, but I won't condemn it. Is it fair chase, that is another question.