What Should I do, Caught DNR Stealing My Stuff???
#91
One of my non-hunting cousins was once forced to unload a wagon full of wood along side the road because the game warden assumed that he might have a poached deer hid under the wood. A game warden can walk right up to your deer stand or blind while you are trying to hunt because he assumes that you might be hunting without a license. They can do some pretty in-depth searches of property based on assumptions. So, i wouldnt be surprised if this could be another instances of someone being a victim of assumption.
#92
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Jun 2007
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Nothing says that they can't snoop around and see if you're breaking the law. That's what they get paid to do. Of course your cousin didn't receive a ticket for having poached a deer though, did he?
#94
ORIGINAL: Simp
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Not in your, my or his neck of the woods. If he gets caught hunting over bait then he's caught. No one can assume he was hunting over bait and give him a ticket. All of the police departments and DNR's in the country can assume that you hunt over bait, but until you're caught in the act there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.Can a cop give you a ticket for speeding as you are walking to your car because he assumes that you'll speed when you drive off????? You can walk into a store and put anything you want in your pocket and walk around all day long and you cannot be arrested just because they assume you're going to steal whatever it was you put in your pocket. Will you be watched like a hawk? Probably. Is this guy being watched?Who knows?
I'm very surprised, no, shocked that anyone would even think that this guy could be in trouble just becausehis DNRassumes that he's hunting over bait.Absolutely amazing.[
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ORIGINAL: Austin/WI
Ridiculous yes, but unfortunately its often the way it really works. If you had payed attention to the locals' posts about the DNR - police officer relationship, you probably wouldn't question my comment. If one group looks out for the other, and isn't willing to help - he may have to be able to prove he didn't that spot. A feeder in place, during season, with a game camera in location (remember they have his card - probably with pictures of game at the feeder as well) --- All of this is probably more than enough to "prove" he had hunted it in many peoples' eyes. I don't like it any better than you, but if he can't show any evidence that he didn't hunt that spot, there is a chance that things may not go his way.
Ridiculous yes, but unfortunately its often the way it really works. If you had payed attention to the locals' posts about the DNR - police officer relationship, you probably wouldn't question my comment. If one group looks out for the other, and isn't willing to help - he may have to be able to prove he didn't that spot. A feeder in place, during season, with a game camera in location (remember they have his card - probably with pictures of game at the feeder as well) --- All of this is probably more than enough to "prove" he had hunted it in many peoples' eyes. I don't like it any better than you, but if he can't show any evidence that he didn't hunt that spot, there is a chance that things may not go his way.
I'm very surprised, no, shocked that anyone would even think that this guy could be in trouble just becausehis DNRassumes that he's hunting over bait.Absolutely amazing.[
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And cops and wardens have never falsified anything

I'm not saying its right or that it will happen to him, I think you're missing my point. I'm saying that it happens, and this is all it takes for it to happen. The entire thing smells fishy to begin with. Think about it. GW going on to land and takes his sd card (we assume for now it was the GW), gives him no notification of any kind before or after. C'mon this stunk from the begininning. I appluad you for being idealistic, I really do. I'll be the first tell you that I hold officers of the law (cops, GW, even some Judges, etc.) in the highest regards. Two of my very best friends are officers and I respect them more than they will ever know. But the fact is that corruption is rampant in many areas on many different levels of the law, fact. For his sake, I really hope this entire thing turns out to be nothing, really. All I advocate is to open your eyes to the possibility. That's all. I've said my peace, hope everyone has a great day!
#95
I was just today reading the May issue of Pa Game News. Ironically, there is an article in it about illegal baiting called "The Advantage". I am not saying HANKFAN has done anything illegal at all, so let's not even go there.[8D]However, in this article, it mentioned that a member of one of the nearby hunting camps noticed what he believed to be a bait set-up and trail cam near a stand site on a neighboring camp property. Long story short, this was brought to the attention of the local WCO (Wildlife Conservation Officer) who did some "snooping" on the property in question.
A couple of bait sites were located, and the trail cams (2)siezed. On these cams there were pics of deer, bear, and turkeyeating the feed during bear and gun deer season. These guys were busted, andthis only started out as hear-say. At least here in Pa, all they need is reasonable suspicion! These guys (WCO) don't need warrents either. They have more power than a cop!
A couple of bait sites were located, and the trail cams (2)siezed. On these cams there were pics of deer, bear, and turkeyeating the feed during bear and gun deer season. These guys were busted, andthis only started out as hear-say. At least here in Pa, all they need is reasonable suspicion! These guys (WCO) don't need warrents either. They have more power than a cop!

#96
ORIGINAL: early in
I was just today reading the May issue of Pa Game News. Ironically, there is an article in it about illegal baiting called "The Advantage". I am not saying HANKFAN has done anything illegal at all, so let's not even go there.[8D] However, in this article, it mentioned that a member of one of the nearby hunting camps noticed what he believed to be a bait set-up and trail cam near a stand site on a neighboring camp property. Long story short, this was brought to the attention of the local WCO (Wildlife Conservation Officer) who did some "snooping" on the property in question.
A couple of bait sites were located, and the trail cams (2) siezed. On these cams there were pics of deer, bear, and turkey eating the feed during bear and gun deer season. These guys were busted, and this only started out as hear-say. At least here in Pa, all they need is reasonable suspicion! These guys (WCO) don't need warrents either. They have more power than a cop!
I was just today reading the May issue of Pa Game News. Ironically, there is an article in it about illegal baiting called "The Advantage". I am not saying HANKFAN has done anything illegal at all, so let's not even go there.[8D] However, in this article, it mentioned that a member of one of the nearby hunting camps noticed what he believed to be a bait set-up and trail cam near a stand site on a neighboring camp property. Long story short, this was brought to the attention of the local WCO (Wildlife Conservation Officer) who did some "snooping" on the property in question.
A couple of bait sites were located, and the trail cams (2) siezed. On these cams there were pics of deer, bear, and turkey eating the feed during bear and gun deer season. These guys were busted, and this only started out as hear-say. At least here in Pa, all they need is reasonable suspicion! These guys (WCO) don't need warrents either. They have more power than a cop!
As they should!
#97
ORIGINAL: BowHuntingFool
As they should!
ORIGINAL: early in
I was just today reading the May issue of Pa Game News. Ironically, there is an article in it about illegal baiting called "The Advantage". I am not saying HANKFAN has done anything illegal at all, so let's not even go there.[8D]However, in this article, it mentioned that a member of one of the nearby hunting camps noticed what he believed to be a bait set-up and trail cam near a stand site on a neighboring camp property. Long story short, this was brought to the attention of the local WCO (Wildlife Conservation Officer) who did some "snooping" on the property in question.
A couple of bait sites were located, and the trail cams (2)siezed. On these cams there were pics of deer, bear, and turkeyeating the feed during bear and gun deer season. These guys were busted, andthis only started out as hear-say. At least here in Pa, all they need is reasonable suspicion! These guys (WCO) don't need warrents either. They have more power than a cop!
I was just today reading the May issue of Pa Game News. Ironically, there is an article in it about illegal baiting called "The Advantage". I am not saying HANKFAN has done anything illegal at all, so let's not even go there.[8D]However, in this article, it mentioned that a member of one of the nearby hunting camps noticed what he believed to be a bait set-up and trail cam near a stand site on a neighboring camp property. Long story short, this was brought to the attention of the local WCO (Wildlife Conservation Officer) who did some "snooping" on the property in question.
A couple of bait sites were located, and the trail cams (2)siezed. On these cams there were pics of deer, bear, and turkeyeating the feed during bear and gun deer season. These guys were busted, andthis only started out as hear-say. At least here in Pa, all they need is reasonable suspicion! These guys (WCO) don't need warrents either. They have more power than a cop!
As they should!
BHF~~~ Can you please explain your reasoning behind this thought?? Not trying to start a fight just wanna hear your opinion on this? I have always wondered why this is so true?
#98
Nontypical Buck
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ORIGINAL: Austin/WI
And cops and wardens have never falsified anything
And cops and wardens have never falsified anything

#100
ORIGINAL: Simp
Well, if that's the case then we know he did nothing wrong. But I do agree with you that it would be good to hear the other side of the story.
ORIGINAL: Austin/WI
And cops and wardens have never falsified anything
And cops and wardens have never falsified anything

Agreed, that was the only point I was trying to make - it can happen and it does unfortunately. To be honest, from what I've read and understand about HANKFANS posts, it doesn't really sound as if he has done anything terribly wrong. But, again, the other side of this would be nice to know...



