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The Kill
05-05-2008, 06:52 AM
#111
Nontypical Buck
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RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
The act of killing the animal isn't even the d'enouemont. The success of the hunt (in totality) is.
The act of killing the animal isn't even the d'enouemont. The success of the hunt (in totality) is.
Would you be willing to expound on that last statement? I'm not saying you're wrong.... you're right in saying that it's different for all of us. It's difficult for me to understand how you can have a successful hunt without it ending with a kill. I know that any hunt can bean enjoyable experience, but it seems to me thatan actual "hunt" isn't succesful until the quarry is captured or killed.
One other thing.... what in the world does "d'enouemont" mean? I tried to look it up, but got no match at all on the web. What is it? A crowning achievement, sort of?
05-05-2008, 06:59 AM
#112
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
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RE: The Kill
Sorry, LC...
It's a different way of saying that the "kill" (to me) is not the "crescendo"/"climax" of the successful hunt. The success of the hunt is at the end...when I can reflect back on the total experience.....in totality.
I happen to agree with you that a truly "successful" hunt ends with an animal being killed. It's not a particularly popular view, to many,.....but I agree with it.
Sorry, PT...missed this...
You seem to think I don't understand an animal HAS to die for me to be a "successful" hunter. I'm fully aware of that. I accept it. I don't lose sleep over it. But for me to say that I "enjoy killing".....wouldn't be truthful.
It's a different way of saying that the "kill" (to me) is not the "crescendo"/"climax" of the successful hunt. The success of the hunt is at the end...when I can reflect back on the total experience.....in totality.
I happen to agree with you that a truly "successful" hunt ends with an animal being killed. It's not a particularly popular view, to many,.....but I agree with it.
quid pro quo ......
answer me first .... what aspect is miissing in hunting with a paintball for you????
answer me first .... what aspect is miissing in hunting with a paintball for you????You seem to think I don't understand an animal HAS to die for me to be a "successful" hunter. I'm fully aware of that. I accept it. I don't lose sleep over it. But for me to say that I "enjoy killing".....wouldn't be truthful.
05-05-2008, 07:02 AM
#113
Giant Nontypical
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Heaven is my home, temporarily residing in WNY :)
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RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
quid pro quo ......answer me first .... what aspect is miissing in hunting with a paintball for you????
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Let me ask......
Does the man who slaughters cattle for a living enjoy the killing? Or....does he recognize it as part of the process that puts meat on the table?
Let me ask......
Does the man who slaughters cattle for a living enjoy the killing? Or....does he recognize it as part of the process that puts meat on the table?
answer me first .... what aspect is miissing in hunting with a paintball for you????
05-05-2008, 07:12 AM
#115
Giant Nontypical
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RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
I got ya, GMMAT.
Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
I got ya, GMMAT.
Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
05-05-2008, 07:15 AM
#116
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 2,333
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
Shool?????[:-]
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
I got ya, GMMAT. Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
I got ya, GMMAT.
Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
05-05-2008, 07:19 AM
#117
Giant Nontypical
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RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
Dang it, Tony![:@] I"ve been lettin' you slide on so many lately and you swing around and pull this. Okay... message edited.[X(] Now then.... game on![8D]
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
Shool?????[:-]
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
I got ya, GMMAT. Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
I got ya, GMMAT.
Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
05-05-2008, 07:22 AM
#118
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 2,333
RE: The Kill
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
LOL ... I hav bin thee typo king latly ......ewe woent half to munch prolbem ....
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
Dang it, Tony![:@] I"ve been lettin' you slide on so many lately and you swing around and pull this. Okay... message edited.[X(] Now then.... game on![8D]
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
Shool?????[:-]
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
I got ya, GMMAT. Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
I got ya, GMMAT.
Man, I hate sounding ignorant, but when I saw that word, I actually was. I took French in shool, but... well.. you know.[&o]
Nice!
05-05-2008, 07:40 AM
#119
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Posts: 362
RE: The Kill
This has gotten way to deep for me I am not smart enough to put it into words I think if you asked me this ? in my early twenties I would have said I love the kill but now I can t put my feelings into words.If one loves the kill so much as they say why use a bow or even a self bow use the biggest scope and rifle you can get.I think the indians feltsadness when they killed somthing and joy even though they would die without it
05-05-2008, 07:43 AM
#120
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Southern MD
Posts: 2,520
RE: The Kill
Have any of you ever held a loved dog (pet) while it was killed? Did you enjoy that kill?
I kill my chickens to eat them. I don't enjoy killing them but I can't eat them unless I kill them.
I kill deer to eat them. You can't eat something unless you kill it. Does that mean you have enjoy the killing part? Or isthe killingjust necessary so that you can eat them?
If I shoot deer with a paintball they won't die and I can't eat them.
I kill my chickens to eat them. I don't enjoy killing them but I can't eat them unless I kill them.
I kill deer to eat them. You can't eat something unless you kill it. Does that mean you have enjoy the killing part? Or isthe killingjust necessary so that you can eat them?
If I shoot deer with a paintball they won't die and I can't eat them
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